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I recently picked up a '59 Model 36 the seller said her dad bought new and carried in his Tennessee highway department truck. She sent along these holsters, too. Neither has a maker's mark.

The dark one is OWB, and the pale one is IWB for a 1Ĺ" belt.

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Lift up the belt loop on the IWB rig and see if there's a makers mark under there. Other than that, I dunno.
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No telling! But they look to me like some of my earlier attempts at holster making using leather that was not of the best quality. Her dad may well have been the maker. The stitching is likely done by hand and I'd say done pretty well. I'd also guess they served their intended purpose too!
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I recently picked up a '59 Model 36 the seller said her dad bought new and carried in his Tennessee highway department truck. She sent along these holsters, too. Neither has a maker's mark.

The dark one is OWB, and the pale one is IWB for a 1Ĺ" belt.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Bob
Certainly the tan one is machine stitched (and likely the other) and its style and 1950s era match Chic Gaylord's.

Suggestion: have a look (or give us a pic) of the inside of the female snap. When the setting of the crimp is clean, it's pro; when it's obviously crude, it's amateur.

The interior shot of the snap socket will also tell us the type of snap; so the 'dot' style is roughly postwar and the 'glove' type is roughly prior (never been able to nail this down tho).

That said, an amateur CAN do a great job, but only if it's important enough to them to get a relatively expensive (ranges up to super expensive) hand or foot operated tool/machine to do it with.
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Thanks for your thoughts.

Here are a few close-up shots of the brown one's snaps and stiching.
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Here are shots of the pale one's snaps and stitching.

Thanks in advance for any additional insight.

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Thanks for your thoughts.

Here are a few close-up shots of the brown one's snaps and stiching.
I'll call both holsters 'semi pro'. The snaps are set professionally yet not necessarily by an electric machine, which tends to over compress the socket setting. And what pro would use a standard Dot snap to close the belt loop vs a Pull the Dot? Couldn't rely on it staying closed against all that stress. Dot snaps I 'think' are post War.
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I reckon now, that I was wrong about the sewing. This one shows signs of a sewing rowel being used to mark the leather for the stitch spacing: notice the tiny, evenly spaced pinpricks where the rowel ran off. This hand tool has a timber handle with a metal shaft and a rowel quite like a Mexican boot spur slotted into the shaft.

The standard Dot snap will work well in this particular case.

So both are semi pro :-) and not by any significant maker.
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Thanks Red.

You're spot on regarding that belt loop snap -- doesn't hold at all. Of course if it's as old as the Model 36 it's about to reach its 60th birthday so that might have something to do with it. I'm guessing the original owner didn't use it much; two of those snaps would have worn the blueing.

Unfortunately I can't try the pale one; my belt's a quarter inch too wide.

I appreciate your time and insight. Informative and interesting.

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Tan holster reminds me of my only Gaylord holster. A iwb with large snap loop.
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