Got my second holster from Lobo. First was an offset for my j frames (640). This one is for my 66-8 snubby. Took a little breaking it, but fits well. Should break in great over the next week and will be one of my primary guns and holster combos, taking back seat when a smaller gun is needed.

Nice! I have a Lobo Enhanced Pancake on order for my new M69. How long did your order take?

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Mine was a weird case for timeline. I had ordered the same holster for a sig P938. When I got it I think they accidentally made it for a 238 because it wouldn’t fit to save its life. I sent it back to them, but sold the 938 because of issues with the gun (and Sig). Lobo agreed to fix the problem but agreed to make me a holster for the 66. Sent me a nice shirt for the mix up as well.

Why would a company that obviously knows how to do superior leather work put such a ****** metal belt clip on the finished product?

Those clips are notorious for coming unhooked when the gun is drawn, and even sometimes when the gun is not being drawn.
Something like the tough plastic or Kydex one that Galco uses is so much better, and it won't scratch or cut other things it comes into contact with such as car seats, car exteriors, chair backs, etc.

Lobo is not the only above-average holster maker that makes this mistake.

Retired 2 years now, and the Fedders are now running Lobo Gun Leather, but I can tell you the history of those "******" clips.

While working on the concept and design of the Offset Belt Clip IWB Model I tried multiple clips offered by several suppliers. Everything readily available suffered from one or more problems:

1. clip not properly shaped to firmly grip the belt and trouser waistband material
2. clip made of metal with insufficient strength (either metal thickness or lack of proper heat treatment to provide spring strength)
3. clip design interfered with mounting areas necessitated by the holster design
4. clip mounting methods that did not allow replacement of a clip that failed in use, requiring loss of the entire holster rather than allowing for expeditious repair.

With nothing readily available I started contacting manufacturers with the idea of having clips made to my specifications. Believe it or not, few manufacturers are very interested in creating new products unless there will be orders for large quantities (think 6 figures or more). Finally located a manufacturer who agreed to make a production run of a thousand, gave me a production date, accepted my deposit to secure the order, then failed to produce, stopped taking telephone calls, and never refunded my deposit.

Things remained unsettled for over a year, then I was referred to another maker who undertook the project and shipped the first 1,000 clips. So after more than a year-and-a-half I was finally able to introduce the Offset Belt Clip IWB design to the market, and it became quite popular.

Clip failures in use have been quite rare, but they do occur from time to time. Removing and replacing the clips can be done quickly and easily, assuring maximum service life for the holster.

Here ends the lesson for those graduates of Holster Genius School who always seem to know more about designing and producing holsters than anyone who has actually engaged in the business.

Best regards.

My 640-1 is riding in one of those right now. I love them.

I think I have 5 of the offsets, 2 1 7/8" J Frames, 1 3" J Frame, 1 2 1/8" J and 1 3" K Frame.

They work for me.
I need one for my 2" 64

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Mine have never failed me. Good belt paired with a good holster. No issues.

I can see there being a problem if you have a thin belt. But a good, strong thick belt has no issues

I couldn't agree more.

The belt width and quality needs to match the holster's clip.slots or snap loops.

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You can put this in your "for what it's worth" file:

When I became an instructor, about 17 years ago, I soon found
out that lady students (and some men) do not wear belts, which
presents a problem for holster selection.

I found that IWB in appendix position works well for many.

Next problem: The clip on just the trouser waistband fabric
would result in the holster coming out wrapped around the gun
on the draw.

So I set out to find IWB holsters with clips that would cling to just
the waistband fabric and not allow the holster to come out.

I tested a lot of holster. I only found 4 that would pass my test.
A passing grade was a hundred draws without the holster coming out.

In fairness to all those that did not pass, they never claimed that the
holster would cling to just the fabric waistband.

Another important consideration is the holster and gun must be light
enough to not sag on the waistband.

It's been a while so I don't know if these makers still use
the same clips, but they are good ones.

Notice the Garrity and Wild Bill also have offset clips.

The four that passed my test shown here left to right are:
Bell-Charter-Oak's Chicago Rocker
FIST'S 1K
Garrity's "inconspicuous"
Wild Bill's Covert tuckable

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I own one of these offset clip holsters and can say that after hundreds (if not thousands) of draws this has NEVER happened. I will say that it does not work equally well with every belt, but that is true of any holster of this kind and it works fine with most 1.5" gun belts.

I don't know which Galco product you tried but I owned one of their holsters with a clip and quickly sent it back, nowhere near the quality of Lobo and other custom holstermakers.

All 4 of your choices have the same style of clip, with the extra lip formed from punching out a portion of the metal. I've seen that in the past but not in the last couple years.

I have a couple of the offset clip IWB's. I think they work great.

I have three Lobos with the off set clip. With a good belt they have worked perfectly for years. I also have a Galco Scout IWB holster and think the plastic clip works great. However, I have a Galco tuckable horsehide holster for J Frames that is, IMHO, very poorly designed. In general I find that the metal clips ruin the finish of my belt and the plastic/nylon ones do not.

I have two. One for the j frame and one for the P2000. Both were Ray's prototypes.

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Ray, are those clips you speak of available for sale anywhere?

I'm a big Lobo Gunleather fan, and the clip issue is interesting.

A friend, former co-worker/LE officer started 'Wild Bill's Concealment' here in NC many years ago. He does very good work and discusses the steel clip at length on his site. That clip and how it performs is very important.

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Old Corp, can you point me to where he discusses the clip on his site, please? I have been unable to find it.

Tom: I am not aware of any source for single clips (or small volume orders). I dealt direct with the manufacturer and took deliveries of 1,000 at a time. You might try contacting Mark at Lobo Gun Leather to see if he might be willing to sell a clip or two.

That is the reason I stopped using or buying holsters with metal clips. Ruined a nice 5:11 belt because of them.

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Trigger - I know that I was reading it on the WB site just a few days ago - may have stumbled on an earlier version of his site, as when I just now looked, couldn't find it either.

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It may be this one: 404 (Page Not Found) Error - Ever feel like you're in the wrong place?
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He discusses the clip on the tuckable IWB. Mine is shown below.

Sorry about the mistake. I just Googled Wild Bills holster clip.
Then scrolled down to the one about concealment & covert carry.

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Last March, I had them make an Enhanced Pancake for my 938 also. Got it and the gun would not go in or out without using two hands. Emailed and sent it back. Second receipt, it was a little better but still unacceptable for carry. Mailed it back again and told them to sell it on consignment. Heard nothing for months. Called and was told they would break the holster in by wearing it around the shop for a month or so and it would be fine. Third receipt it was still a two handed affair to holster or draw. The money I spent on return postage would have just about paid for a new holster so I decided to cut my losses and threw it in the trash. Had several of the old Lobo holsters with no issues. Very disappointed with the new.

Done with Lobo.
Klyde