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Old 05-02-2018, 03:43 PM
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My friend Red was intrigued by a Chic Gaylord belt, and holster,
on ebay a while back. I decided I would snag the rig and give
them to my friend. Well, as it turned out, all Red wanted was
photos, for the book I presume. turnerriver is doing the photos.

The belt is a perfect fit for me and a good match for my Gaylord
Combat Speed Scabbard. (See photo on the left)

But after turnerriver makes the photos I will need to find a home
for the holster. (Shown second from left)

The holster is Left Hand draw. I believe it was probably made
for a Combat Magnum or Combat Masterpiece, and/or possibly
Colt's OPs, et. al.

A previous owner wanted it to fit a Military & Police (aka model 10)
so he put a leather wedge where the rear adjustable sight
would be. (See 3rd photo from left)

It is a very nice fit for the model 10 shown in my photo 2nd from
left. My model 10 only has 4" barrel. This holster will accomodate
up to 6.5" barrel.

That wedge is held in place by 2 rivets. (See 4th photo from left)

This is not an offer to sell. I would like some help determining
a fair price. Anything by Chic Gaylord is collectible.
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This is a Bianchi for a Walther PP, but a retired US Deputy Marshall who lives in north Georgia has a very similar holster and matching belt in ostrich made by Gaylord for his Colt Commander .38 Super. He traded a Charter Arms Pathfinder .22 revolver for it years ago. It is priceless to him, having formerly been owned by his mentor. He wore it to court and special occasions only, it is in remarkable condition.
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For me, $ 25.00 is a very fair price and I can have a check in the mail tomorrow !!
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Old 05-03-2018, 12:44 AM
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Way back in the day I had a copy of Gaylord's book. It was one of several good old books that I foolishly loaned out, never to see again. It's not like I would be reading it every day or even every other year--but it would be in the book case if I did want to take it down.

Now I don't loan ANYTHING out. Including my chipped car keys to the wife.
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Way back in the day I had a copy of Gaylord's book. It was one of several good old books that I foolishly loaned out, never to see again. It's not like I would be reading it every day or even every other year--but it would be in the book case if I did want to take it down.

Now I don't loan ANYTHING out. Including my chipped car keys to the wife.
The book was, Handgunner's Guide, and may be available on the Net. It's not famous among the general public, so may sell for a reasonable price.

I bought my copy when it was new in stores and I'm not selling.
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Lucky B didn't get much help at all, in valuing his holster set, did he?

Instead, though, he was the super nice guy he always is and gifted it to me (but kept the belt which is where the "B" comes from) :-). Turnerriver has photographed it for The Book and it will appear there.

That belt is super rare; found alone (without the Gaylord holster) no one would have known it was a Gaylord belt and I imagine there are virtually no others that anyone could know of (no markings). Well done Phil!
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Very timely Red. The belt came back from turnerriver just yesterday, and
the holster is on the way to Australia. I'm sure you will inspect and disect it,
and give us a report.

There is an interesting feature of the belt. I don't know what to call it,
and I don't even know if it has a name. I will just call it a holster keeper.
It is kinda shown in photos 1 and 2 above.

But here, below, is a photo of the keeper, front and back. The purpose
is to keep the holster from moving forward or backward on the belt.

If you like, and need, the idea, it would be easy to add to your belt, if
you have a snap setter. It's a rivet on one end and a snap on the other.

Chic had a lot of good ideas.
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LuckyB, I still say that the doubled portion of the belt is for the holster. The keeper strap, well, who knows why it's there; all we know for sure is that the seller put the holster under it (i.e., we don't know what Chic intended for the strap). Thanks for the pics though, with your holster, very cool.
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It is perfectly logical that the double thick part of the belt would be
where to carry the holster, but it's on the wrong side. The part with
the keeper handles the weight of the holster with model 29 quite well.
The "keeper" strap could have been put there for an extra ammo pouch
or most anything.
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Hey, Phil...and Red!!

I know that this is a little off the track, but I found a really nice copy of Gaylord's "Handgunner's Guide", at a semi decent price, a first edition, second printing, still with the original dust jacket. It's on it's way, and has made it as far as Pittsburgh, according to USPS tracking!!

As you know, Phil, (I already have your book, and I'm waiting on "The Book", from Red), I have a small library of gun related books, and thought I would like to add this one.

You are responsible for me even knowing about Chic Gaylord, anlthough I seem to recall the name from back in the day.

I'll be sure to post a review when it comes in.

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I know that this is a little off the track, but I found a really nice copy of Gaylord's "Handgunner's Guide", at a semi decent price, a first edition, second printing, still with the original dust jacket. It's on it's way, and has made it as far as Pittsburgh, according to USPS tracking!!

As you know, Phil, (I already have your book, and I'm waiting on "The Book", from Red), I have a small library of gun related books, and thought I would like to add this one.

You are responsible for me even knowing about Chic Gaylord, anlthough I seem to recall the name from back in the day.

I'll be sure to post a review when it comes in.

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It would be easy to write off Chic's now somewhat dated book as heavily biased towards his own products; if I hadn't had several experiences with trying to get other makers to provide product or pics for book (let's see, Blue Steel & Gunleather, two editions, for John; Holsters and Other Gunleather by Combs with Roger Combs reporting he got virtually no cooperation there; an early book effort of my own from the '90s; another effort in the first decade of this century). So I know that Chic simply used his own because he had them!

The Book has no industry-supplied images slated for it; it is entirely a citizen's effort and so is filled with most makers' products yet not supplied by them. The one maker who's not going to get much coverage with images is Sparks; of the 4,000 images that I have permission to use for The Book (only 400 or so will fit into it) I have just the tiniest handful of Sparks'. Not to worry, heaps of Nelson's own originals, who effectively was Sparks' designer of the latter's concealment products.

I was quite surprised to see Chic's singling out of Tom Threepersons' holster as one of the best designs he knew of, in 1960. Then equally surprised that he didn't understand the need for a thick welt inside to make one work (Chic did not use welts at all). Tom was still living at that time (d. 1969).
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Thanks Red, I learn stuff every day here on the forum, and you and the other holster gurus have gotten me through grade school, I know that junior high, high school, college and graduate school are still out there!!

Somewhere, I have "Blue Steel", but haven't seen it for awhile, hope it's not one that I loaned out and forgot about. Almost all of my gun books are in my office at school, and I leave the door open whenever I'm on campus. I've never had a problem with people stealing anything from there, but I sometimes loan a book out.

Anyway, thanks for the background on Chic, it will give me some perspective when I get the book.

Keep up the good work!!

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Chic Gaylord was way ahead of his time. You are sure to enjoy his
Hangunners Guide. It is filled with little bits of holster wisdom.
In the early 1960s I carried one of Colt's Agent revolvers in a Chic
Gaylord holster. Somehow I let it get away from me.
I was elated when John Witty (turnerriver) let me have the little Chic
Gaylord speed scabbard shown below with my S&W 642.
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Here's my "new" book!! Came about 3:00. First thing, my buddy "Lucky" (not to be confused with a guy called "Lucky B") had to investigate:



I'll give you a "book report" as soon as I absorb some of Chic's wisdom.

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The cat looks happy about the book too!.I remember Chic Gaylord well.
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