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NEW (TO ME) PRODUCT REVIEW
I went in to a shoe repair shop a while back, looking for something else,
but the lady who helped me, sold me on this new (to me) product.
It is called URAD. It comes from Italy. I believe the Italians
know something about leather.
It says on the jar that it cleans, conditions, protects, and
shines. And it does.
I paid $11.95 for a 3.5 oz. jar.
It comes in various colors. I got Cordovan.
I just wipe it on and wipe it off, the same way I do Tan Kote.
I don't happen to have a good candidate for before and after
photos right now, but probably will have before long.
Here are a couple of photos.
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I look forward to your before and after pics.
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There is a guy that sells a version called "GRASSO" at local NC gun shows. Its made by URAD. He markets it for shoes. I bought a can several years ago. It's like Ren Wax, a little goes a long way. I am a fan of the old Roy Baker Pancake holsters and use the product on them. I've had great results restoring the appearance of old, dried out, leather on the pancake holsters. The GRASSO version is generic and not specific to one color.
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I've not heard of this before, but as long as it is similar to a "regular shoe polish / wax" (Kiwi or Lincoln that we all are familiar with) it should be OK to use. If it has saddle soap, oils or softeners in it - I'd not use it! The last thing you want to do (IMHO) is to soften a leather holster! While it may seem like a good idea for a stiff new holster, it will make the holster softer than you want in short order. A good holster should be precisely form fitted and the gun should almost "snap-in" when inserted. If softened it will be loose and sloppy eventually. Breaking in a new Leather Holster is best done by simply using it! You can use the old zip lock bag trick to speed break-in up slightly, but use is always the best way - not softening.
BTW Lincoln Wax is a higher quality than KIWI is - seems KIWI has added a bunch of petroleum distillates which is not great for leather. Over time it can cause cracking. I changed over from KIWI to Lincoln a few years back after reading about this. So far I am very happy with the Lincoln.
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Thanks CrazyPhil, I ordered Black Rock and got two jars last year. After cleaning umpteen holsters with it, I have hardly used half a jar. Now you come up with a new "fix" for the holsters. So I guess I have to go out and buy some more holsters, which I already this last year have accumulated about fifteen I have no idea what fits in them, but they were a "good buy". I think the clear Grasso sounds like a good deal, I'll look for some around here, before I purchase more holsters.
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I just watched the Promotional Urad video on their website. The product contains Lanolin Oils (as per their own statement) and oil will make a leather holster too soft over time. While soft & supple leather might be great for an old stiff pair of shoes, a cracked and dried out easy chair, a beat up wallet etc, once again, "soft and supple" qualities for a fitted holster is not good - with maybe the exception of a generic multi model pouch type, flap type or holster that is not meant to hug and retain a firearm - but simply a pouch to carry it in.
Instructions that come with top quality leather holsters simply state. " use only standard shoe polish such as Lincoln or Kiwi on our product and state that oils will make their products too soft for proper function.
My intention is not starting an argument here - I am just passing on good info I have gotten from the top Holster Maker's over many years of buying products from them. I'm also stating facts from lessons I've learned over the years from personal experience.
That said, we're all adults here so the decision is for you to make.
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I just watched the Promotional Urad video on their website. The product contains Lanolin Oils (as per their own statement) and oil will make a leather holster too soft over time. While soft & supple leather might be great for an old stiff pair of shoes, a cracked and dried out easy chair, a beat up wallet etc, once again, "soft and supple" qualities for a fitted holster is not good - with maybe the exception of a generic multi model pouch type, flap type or holster that is not meant to hug and retain a firearm - but simply a pouch to carry it in.
Instructions that come with top quality leather holsters simply state. " use only standard shoe polish such as Lincoln or Kiwi on our product and state that oils will make their products too soft for proper function.
My intention is not starting an argument here - I am just passing on good info I have gotten from the top Holster Maker's over many years of buying products from them. I'm also stating facts from lessons I've learned over the years from personal experience.
That said, we're all adults here so the decision is for you to make.
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Your experience and advice is appreciated. Thank you for the
additional information.
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Interesting, our shoe store is long gone here, far as I know but I will be hitting the saddle shop soon as I return and am allowed out and about. looked on Amazon real quick and found a bunch of their products. Nothing in colors yet. THANKS!! Leather care has its own sopt in the shop.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyphil
I went in to a shoe repair shop a while back, looking for something else,
but the lady who helped me, sold me on this new (to me) product.
It is called URAD. It comes from Italy. I believe the Italians
know something about leather.
It says on the jar that it cleans, conditions, protects, and
shines. And it does.
I paid $11.95 for a 3.5 oz. jar.
It comes in various colors. I got Cordovan.
I just wipe it on and wipe it off, the same way I do Tan Kote.
I don't happen to have a good candidate for before and after
photos right now, but probably will have before long.
Here are a couple of photos.
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Phil, it's a leather cream :-). It will do no harm but is not comparable to a finish like Tan Kote; and that's a good thing because it will give you a shine without a buildup. I think of Tan Kote as a restorative, and as a 'primer': it applies a thin layer of a lacquer-like finish that spray lacquer will stick to. Whereas if one were to use a leather cream, it would not.
Well done to you for continuing to think outside the box as always. Your friend.
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Thank you for that additional information Red. Up until now, I had been
using Tan Kote just to give some dull holsters a little additional shine.
Here is a before and after example. It is a Threepersons style with dog
ear, by Shipley of Kansas City. I don't know how old it is but quite old.
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Thank you for that additional information Red. Up until now, I had been
using Tan Kote just to give some dull holsters a little additional shine.
Here is a before and after example. It is a Threepersons style with dog
ear, by Shipley of Kansas City. I don't know how old it is but quite old.
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You DO know how old it is, Phil :-). Think about it: if it has a welt inside the main seam, then beginning with the 1930s. Then the hammer guard appeared when Myres invented it, in the 1940s. Then the mark you haven't shown (always show the backside) can be compared with early Shipley marks.
It bears a striking resemblance to both the Myres, and the later Lawrence. You have one in pigskin as I recall :-). Chas. Shipley himself d. in the 1940s and his family continued in the business for some years after.
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Of course you are right Red, here, on the left is the back side of the Shipley
in the rough so not very photogenic. Next is the Lawrence Special Agent
with the exterior made of pigskin that you mentioned, and the back side.
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Originally Posted by crazyphil
Of course you are right Red, here, on the left is the back side of the Shipley
in the rough so not very photogenic. Next is the Lawrence Special Agent
with the exterior made of pigskin that you mentioned, and the back side.
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That is the 'late' Shipley mark; and the backside is so evocative of the Heiser 459 of 1950 vs. the Myres of the mid '40s that I'm going to say: 1950s for yours.
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Way up in my 1st entry I said I would post a before and after using the
URAD. I haven't bought anything lately, and most of my holsters look OK.
But this Bucheimer Hank Sloan color looked a little thin up near the top
so I thought I would try the URAD Cordovan on it. On the left, the front
before. 2nd from left is the back side. 3rd from left is the front, after I
wiped a bit of URAD Cordovan on it. Not a lot of difference, but a little bit.
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Interesting. I have always used saddle soap. No issues so far.
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