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Old 09-05-2016, 05:18 PM
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Here's another old one, a German Reichsrevolver Modell 1879 made by Mauser with it's holster, which is probably more scarce than the revolver. The revolver stayed in service for a while: the letters BE on the grip indicate Bayerische Einwohnerwehr, a Post WW I Bavarian civil guard.
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This is the US Model 1912 holster, the first model of holster for the new Colt M 1911 automatic pistol. It was designed for the cavalry since they were the only ones using the pisol as an offensive weapon; everyone else carried it for personal protection. It was a drop down design with a swivel, made for horse mounted soldiers. It had two leg straps, missing on this specimen (anyone know where I can get either originals or reproductions?).

It was widely unpopular among everyone except mounted troops. The next model, the M 1916, lasted until the Colt was replaced by the Beretta in the 1970s, and everyone who carried a 45, including myself, did so with that holster or the M3 or M5 shoulder holster.

The picture is of the officers of my fathers company during training at Camp Wadsworth, SC, in 1917. They are wearing the M 1912, since this was a National Guard Division (the 27th) and were equipped with whatever the Active Army didn't want any more. They presumably took them to France a little later.
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I hope it's better to be late than not at all. Here are 5 of my holsters
that I'm quite sure are vintage. Not sure about the guns. How old do
they need to be to be vintage? They range from the 1950s to 1980s.
Anyway, left to right:

1. Eubanks Pioneer Leather with my Colt's Agent (with Spegel extended
boot grips). Royal Eubanks started Eubanks Leather in Boise around
1937-1939. Sold to Pioneer Tent & Awning in 1949 with a 5 year
agreement not to compete. Eubanks Pioneer Leather was the Maker
Mark (on my holster). In 1954, upon expiration of the covenant not to
compete, Royal Eubanks started Idaho Leather, but he died shortly
thereafter. Eubanks widow sold the business to a family friend Bud
Wetzel.
Idaho Leather is still in the location Eubanks started in with much of the
original equipment. It is operated by Bud's son Ben Wetzel. If you
happen to be in Boise you should visity Idaho Leather. Before you
enter, set your watch back 60 years.

2. Heiser (V,L&A) Model 713 holster with my S&W Model 19 wearing
Herrett's Bill Jordan Trooper stocks. I blundered across the holster
misplaced on ebay. It was dirty, beat up, strap missing, etc. and
consequently I got a good buy. Cleaned it up. Took it to a saddle shop
and they replaced the strap with a piece of distressed harness leather.
When I removed the pouch from the loops I found the usual Heiser
marking OP6, which means it was made for A Colt Official Police with
up to 6" barrel. So the holster must have been made sometime after
1927. My Model 19 (with adjustable rear sight) fits as good as a Colt
OP would.

3. Oliver Ball was a Lt. homicide detective on the Fort Worth PD. from
1940-1976. He passed away in 1983. He enjoyed making holsters for
academy graduates and for many Texas Law Enforcement Officers.
Shown here with my Model 67 (no dash) Combat Masterpiece.

4. Lewis Police Equipment Company's heyday was the 40s, 50s,
and 60s. This little crossdraw was one of their popular products.
They made it with belt loop, clip on, or snap on (like mine).
Joe Friday carried his Model 10 snub in a clip on. Malloy (Adam 12)
carried his Model 36 (off duty gun) in a clip on.

5. Berns-Martin's Universal Speed Scabbard, shown carrying my
S&W Model 27-5. Charles Askins said it is the fastest rig he had ever
tried. There is a photo of Askins making his fast draw in Bill Jordan's
book No Second Place Winner.
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I asked the Websters what vintage means. They say old, recognized,
quality, important, and of enduring interest. Here are 5 more that I
believe fits that description:

1. Myres #614 floral carved Threepersons carrying my S&W model 27,
belt by Haugen, and knife by Bear.

2. Myres #624 floral carved Threepersons with retention strap and
hammer protector hosting my S&W Model 67 Combat Masterpiece.
Belt by Sparks, and knife by Benchmade.

3. Heiser #757 floral carved Threepersons in oxblood with my S&W
Model 10 along for the ride. The belt is by Simply Rugged and the
knife is from S&W.

4. Heiser #759 small floral carved Threepersons style with a vintage
Charter Undercover. (Sorry, none of my little Smiths have hammers)
The belt by Haugen, and the knife by Puma.

5. Wally Wolfram's Blazer with a Taurus model 94. Belt from Haugen,
and knife from Marbles.
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Just call me "The Searcher". My Model 10-5 shown here was issued to
plain cloths detective on the Boise PD back in the 60s. In 1968 Lawrence
came up with what they called the "Special Agent". It appears to be
a "plain jane" holster. This specimen is a 34JV F.B.I. style quick-draw
holster with a hammer guard to protect jacket lining from the hammer
spur. It is lined with smooth grain saddle leather. The outside is from
imported pig skin.
For some reason I felt like I had to have one for the Model 10. So I
searched. I advertised in the Wanted forum. I sent flyers to gun shops.
I even called Bill Lawrence (George's great grandson, who ran Lawrence
at the time they sold to Gould & Goodrich.) Well the Bible says "search
and you will find", and I finally found.
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Old 09-08-2016, 07:20 AM
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Circa. 1976 for both holster and Model 64. Handmade pancake holster by a fellow police officer back in the day. Have had them both since that time. Still my favorite concealed carry outfit. Two items that will never be sold!
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I went from a single Brill holster to three Brills in less than two months. Thought I was happy with one and wasn't really looking for any more but they just "accidentally" happened along.

Sneaked up on this Brill for a Colt Single Action Army with 4 3/4-inch barrel at the San Angelo gun show back in July. Just now had time to take a few photos.







Less than two months before, a Brill for a Colt Government Model came to roost. This photo was taken on a day when I actually put it to use toting a Colt to town ... just to try it out, you know. It really needs to be photographed with a '47 vintage Government that's around here, but the modern stainless steel juxtaposed with the old leather did come off looking appealing somehow.

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I like pretty much every Brill holster I've ever seen but I think those for 1911s are the most handsome 1911 holsters ever made. Great find.
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Pre war Heavy Duty Pinto, Ivory Grips with Bianchi Cross Draw Holster.
I'm troubled by this post :-). My design of the 111 Cyclone holster for John Bianchi in the 70s is VINTAGE!!?? I feel older than I did a moment ago :-(
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Dont just feel the old Red. Vintage is also recognized quality, important,
and of enduring interest.
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I know what you mean! I guess I got some vintage underwear around here too, if the 70's is vintage!!

I think 1Aspenhill was more referring to the gun, ivory, and ammo as vintage.
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It's cute!

It was free!

But, what does it fit?


Nope.


Ahhh ... just right.

Albeit holster length would accommodate a 5-inch New Pocket more perfectly than this 3 1/2-inch variant.


Did security at the San Angelo gun show this past weekend. The show promoter had taken this holster in a box of stuff that an exhibitor who had set up Friday night had traded him. Monty was speculating what it fit. On Friday night, I had suggested that perhaps a Smith & Wesson J or I frame, allowing that it was mighty small and might fit an even smaller revolver.

Thought to bring an I-Frame Smith & Wesson .32 S&W Long and also a Colt New Pocket .32 Long Colt along when I arrived on Saturday afternoon. The tiny Colt fit. Monty chuckled and said: "You gotta a gun that fits it. It's yours."

The vintage holster exhibits really fine design and workmanship. The tooling is very artistic and pleasingly executed. Never saw this style tooling before. Except for the obvious length, the New Pocket fits perfectly. No maker's mark may be discerned though a rectangle may be faintly detected when examining the back of the holster. A rectangle such as might contain a Myres mark or even a Brill? An examination at the show had me convinced that I could discern an "L" where the last "L" of Brill would be and also a "U" where "AUSTIN" would fall on the second line. An examination in the sunlight with a magnifying glass today when I photographed the holster was inclusive though.

The holster saw use. Someone bored a hole at the bottom for a tie-down and also cut "DW" initials at the bottom of the backside of the holster.

I'm kinda enthused about the holster because it is so nicely made. Anyone seen anything like it? Any design similarities to familiar makers? What about the tooling? Can anyone suggest another revolver for which the holster could have been made?










The area with the "imagined" faint maker's mark.

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It's a very nice piece, whoever made it. Congratulations.

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Brian:

Nothing is free. It may have appeared to have been free, but now, of course, you are going to have to find exactly the correct gun that it was crafted for and then buy it.

Is it possible that it was built for an autoloader? Something like a Woodsman?? I'm trying to visualize that, without much success.

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Initials could be a stylized "PW" also, but no way to know. I recently acquired a basketweave stamp that could do that, but I hadn't thought of putting the stamps together that way! If my stamp will do that, I'll get back to you. Interesting. I'd never seen that particular imprint either.
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Nothing is free. It may have appeared to have been free, but now, of course, you are going to have to find exactly the correct gun that it was crafted for and then buy it.

Is it possible that it was built for an autoloader? Something like a Woodsman?? I'm trying to visualize that, without much success.

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It regularly housed a revolver in its past life as there are ample marks and impression of cylinder flutes and outline.

The only Woodsman that lives around here is a six-inch which won't fit.

Really, the holster accepts and holds the Colt New Pocket as it it was constructed with dimensions for that model revolver. My New Pocket is a 3 1/2-inch. The 5-inch variant would likely be perfect.

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Well, there you go, then: I'll keep my eyes open, and let you know if I see one for sale. Can't let that beautiful piece of leather go un-filled!!!

Seriously, that is a cool and unique holster with a beautiful pattern to the stamping. Nice find!!

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New leather for the old 38/44. Heiser 754.



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I feel like I could use a cigarette after looking through this thread.

You guys and gals sure have some nice stuff!
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These are pictures from the auction I just won . Don't know what it will fit yet but I thought it was one of the coolest Heiser's I have seen . Any idea what a 507 fits ??
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Shoulder holster & its Colt 1902 Sport --



1851 Navy its leather --

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These are pictures from the auction I just won . Don't know what it will fit yet but I thought it was one of the coolest Heiser's I have seen . Any idea what a 507 fits ??
507 is the model number, it doesn't provide size information. My guess would be a medium frame DA revolver. The holster was made prior to WW II
and is an unusual model not often seen in.basketweave finish.
Look on the back with a strong light and you might find inked or etched information such as OP, AS or MP which would indicate Official Police, Army Special or Military & Police. It looks like a 6" barrel. You can feel where the cylinder ends inside the holster and measure for the barrel size. It is a very fine unusual Heiser
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507 is the model number, it doesn't provide size information. My guess would be a medium frame DA revolver. The holster was made prior to WW II
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Look on the back with a strong light and you might find inked or etched information such as OP, AS or MP which would indicate Official Police, Army Special or Military & Police. It looks like a 6" barrel. You can feel where the cylinder ends inside the holster and measure for the barrel size. It is a very fine unusual Heiser
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Thanks. It's at the local post office so I should get it tomorrow.

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A. Stelzig Saddle Company

Here's a nice vintage holster simply acquired because of the interesting geometric tooling. I have no idea of the holster's age. The maker's mark was used from 1926 to sometime in the 1980s. An interesting history of this Texas concern can be found in this link: [url=http://www.vintagegunleather.com/company-marks/stelgiz_history.html]A. Stelzig Saddle Company History and Maker Marks - www.vintagegunleather.com

I'd thought it was a bit too long for 4-inch Smith & Wesson K-Fames (my favorite K-Frame barrel length by the way) so poked the only 5-inch K-Frame into it to find the perfect fit. Gun is likely much older than the holster is, the revolver's serial number being 50200-and-something which should date it to 1904.






A close-up shot showing detail of the work.





I have no idea how old this holster is and there's nothing on the internet outside of the above link to provide a clue on the holster's age, but it's a great holster with leather of outstanding quality.
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Turnerriver ,

A 5" MP fits but seats a tad deep leaving the strap hanging in the air above the trigger guard by 1/4" . My Officers Model Target 38 does not seat completely but is close . Maybe a standard Officers Model ? The scrappy looking Hunter that came with it cleaned up and looks like a completely different holster. I fits the MP perfect but will need the hold down strap and snap that's missing replaced.

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Idaho Leather Fits My Officers Model Target perfectly. Don't know how old it is .Is marked on the back flap 77LS , Idaho Leather Company , Boise Idaho , R6 , 6 / 2 . Like new condition .

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This is the oldest example of a Heiser I have. The style of marking was said to have been used between 1890 and 1910. I feel sure the holster was produced expressly for the Colt Model 1903 .32/1908 .380 rather than for the Remington Model 51, which was introduced in 1918 and produced until 1927, though Remington sold off inventory of these into the 1930s.

Still, the little Remington .380 automatic fits so perfectly that it makes for an appealing combination. Perhaps a proper Colt will come along one day.







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Buffalo hide holster & my DIY .38-40 Single Action Colt --


Holster I bought at a gun show from a man who said he made it from Buffalo hide -------->



















































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Here's my latest pickup.... great for a Tex-Mex BBQ !

Early post war M&P, pearl steerhorn grips with ruby eyes and a 1920's style piteadao holster. The design stitching on the holster is done with metal bullion thread.

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Here's a close-up of the stitching...

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Great Scot, that looks like some very intricate, time consuming work! For a holster that is almost 100 years old, it looks brand new! Awesome picture, BTW.
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Great Scot, that looks like some very intricate, time consuming work! For a holster that is almost 100 years old, it looks brand new! Awesome picture, BTW.
Thanks! I think the style is 1920's but looks like it might be vintage 1940-1950 based on the the outer lacing (looks like plastic to me).

Any thoughts on age on this one?
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Here's an older Jay Pee holster, from Greenblatt, NYC. What's interesting about this holster, it has a previous owners name scratched on the back, Geo. Anderson U.S.B.P. and also and added hammer flap sewed on and it's also stamped "Chas. ????, MAKER, and I think El Paso, Texas. This last stamping is worn, right where it folds over the hammer.
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Here's an older Jay Pee holster, from Greenblatt, NYC. What's interesting about this holster, it has a previous owners name scratched on the back, Geo. Anderson U.S.B.P. and also and added hammer flap sewed on and it's also stamped "Chas. ????, MAKER, and I think El Paso, Texas. This last stamping is worn, right where it folds over the hammer.
That would be Chas Bluemel, another saddler/holster maker.
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These 2 no name rescues also belong in this thread:
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M&P pre-model 10 2" in a F.B.I. style Tex Shoemaker holster,






M&P pre-model 10 5" in Bradley and Grimes holster



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They may be "no names", but I'd sure like to know the maker of the one on the right. Really nice
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It's probably Mexican made. Maybe by Reyes. It is a lot like
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Great tread I knew the folks on this forum had great guns but I had no idea y'all have such interesting leather, thanks to all who have taken the time to share I've really enjoyed.
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I know that I have posted this stubby before, but I don't guess it made it into this thread.
Pre-war model 10 with a Myres Barton Special which turnerriver was gracious enough to part with.

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VaTom, Any chance you could post a picture of this with the pistol in the holster? It looks like a neat rig. Thanks

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Circa. 1976 for both holster and Model 64. Handmade pancake holster by a fellow police officer back in the day. Have had them both since that time. Still my favorite concealed carry outfit. Two items that will never be sold!
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