I Have High Standards

tabs · #1 10-02-2009, 07:03 AM

Lately I have a penchant for the early High Standards. That and S&W DA's...Four pistols are shown below

1. MDL HD Military NIB wt papers circa 1947. 6 3/4 B. 140,000 were made.

2. MDL HE wt 4.5 B. 98% circa 1940 only 1000 of these were made with an estimate of only 225 to 350 with the 4.5 B.

3. MDL GO first mdl Olympic in 22 Short wt 4.5 B circa 1950 a weak 90% only 1200 were made with 3/4 of them in 4.5

4. MDL GE factory 2 B set (4.5 & 6 3/4 B) 99%+ circa 1950 with only 2600 made.

I would like to get the prewar Mdl D and E...

Bullseye 2620 · #2 10-02-2009, 07:52 AM

Very glad to hear that you have high standards. I wouldn't expect anything less of you.

Bullseye

gr8AmericanBash · #3 10-02-2009, 07:55 AM

Bob Seger sang about a girl with Hi-Points.

m657 · #4 10-02-2009, 08:08 AM

Great collection there.....always loved my High Standards....traded the 10X & Citation off to help finance down payment on an office building....really....

tabs · #5 10-02-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by m657

Great collection there.....always loved my High Standards....traded the 10X & Citation off to help finance down payment on an office building....really....

Your farther ahead then I am..I am gun poor.

tallpaul · #6 10-02-2009, 08:19 AM

I had a like new HD military of the older vintage with box n papers. It was NRA excellent and I asked one of the legends at my club about it and he said I could shoot it but he would not... he said sell it and get something else... He was right and I did but I almost wish I would have tried it out

The workmanship was really good on it for sure!

ecam8000 · #7 10-02-2009, 08:59 AM

At the start of the year I had a HD in the 4". At the Colorado Gun Collectors show I bought 3 of the HD's in the 7". One for me and each of my daughters. Because of this forum I also bought a Mdl 41. At the range the girls liked the HD's but loved the 41. I don't complain, at least they like to shoot.

Rule3 · #8 10-02-2009, 09:24 AM

I do also

ridewv · #9 10-02-2009, 10:49 AM

Nice looking pistols there!

Overall I'd say High Standard's are my favorite 22 pistols. I like the grip angle, and the way they just feel and point. The quick release barrel take-down is a great feature too. Since they made so many there's always a nice selection of used ones in about any condition you'd want on the auction sites. IMO buying a nice used High Standard a good alternative to a new Ruger or Beretta.

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deadin · #10 10-02-2009, 12:24 PM

Here's a guessing game for you..................

Which one is the real High Standard??

ecam8000 · #11 10-02-2009, 01:29 PM

Second from the top? The others look like Woodsmans to me.

shooboy · #12 10-02-2009, 01:29 PM

Hi, If you are looking for some awesome Hi-Standards try giving Pro-Gun Services in Victor, NY a call. I was in there recently and the had a huge collection of collector grade Models for sale, most with boxes. Part of a big collection they purchased I believe. They may show some of them in the pistol section of their website but I know they don't have them all on there. Try Pro-Gun Services L.L.C. , maybe they have the ones you are looking for, Shoo

shooboy · #13 10-02-2009, 01:32 PM

Okay, I checked myself, Pro Gun does still have quite a few Hi-Standards on the website. Talk to Pat if you call them and tell him Randy Schue sent ya, good huntin', Shoo

deadin · #14 10-02-2009, 01:44 PM

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Second from the top? The others look like Woodsmans to me.

No Woodsmans there.
What made you pick the 2nd from the top over the 2 below it?

Pop's2 · #15 10-02-2009, 01:53 PM

I also vote for #2..........the blueing is typical of HS

ecam8000 · #16 10-02-2009, 02:31 PM

Deadin, I guess that thumb lever right behind the grip "looks" HS to me. Honestly you've got me, I'm not willing to bet anything on that. But I curious to what the answer will be. If not Woodsmans........

deadin · #17 10-02-2009, 03:19 PM

Well, you guys are right, #2 is an early HS Model B shipped in 1933. The other three are Hartford Arms Co. The top one is a single shot and the bottom two are Model 1925's.
The interesting part is that the parts on the 1925's and the Model B are pretty much interchangable. The only significant difference is the markings.
High Standard bought Hartford Arms around 1932 and continued assembling stock on hand as Hartfords, new production was marked as High Standard. (I would have to refer to my research, but I seem to remember that one of my Hartfords actually shipped later than the Model B.)

Here's an example of the markings: (My other Hartford has identical grips to the HS.)

tabs · #18 10-02-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by deadin

Here's a guessing game for you..................

Which one is the real High Standard??

The top one is different so it must be the one...EHHHHH I was WRONG.

I knew they were the predessors...but could not tell off hand which one was NOT A HS..

Pop's2 · #19 10-02-2009, 05:42 PM

Thanks Deadin.......very nice examples of early HS; and I should have remembered that history of the brand as I read that doing research on my w-103 and w-105 a while back

deadin · #20 10-02-2009, 06:30 PM

tabs,
I have the same package as your HD Military (box, papers,etc.) only mine is in 4 1/2". My brother-in-law bought it in Spokane, WA in 1946 right after he mustered out of the Army after WW2. The price penciled on the end of the box is $46.00.

BTW, are those Ropers on your HE and the Olympic?? Nice!!!

tabs · #21 10-03-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by deadin

tabs,
I have the same package as your HD Military (box, papers,etc.) only mine is in 4 1/2". My brother-in-law bought it in Spokane, WA in 1946 right after he mustered out of the Army after WW2. The price penciled on the end of the box is $46.00.

BTW, are those Ropers on your HE and the Olympic?? Nice!!!

They are standard factory grips for those models..only the HD has a different style.

I have several of the later HS's but these are my favorites.

deanodog · #22 10-03-2009, 07:48 AM

Don't forget about this type of High Standard. Double nine with nine shot capacity. Thousands of rounds through it. Horrible DA trigger but single action is no too bad.

Charger Fan · #23 10-03-2009, 10:40 AM

There's this flavor, too. Sentinel MK II .357 with fixed sights, made for HS by Dan Wesson.

Here's it's Dan Wesson Model 14 cousin on the left.

reddogge · #24 10-03-2009, 10:50 AM

I like em too.
Two HD militaries and a WW2 Model B-US.

deadin · #25 10-03-2009, 11:11 AM

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They are standard factory grips for those models

tabs,
I'm impressed with those grips. I don't know I've seen them before. Anyway, I did a little research on them and I wouldn't call them factory "standard", rather factory special order.

The owners manual/parts list I found show them as costing $8.50 while the regular plastic ones were only $2.00. (Parts list dated 6-52)

imashooter2 · #26 10-03-2009, 12:35 PM

I have Mom and Dad's his-n-hers Supermatics. Great shooting guns. I should try to get a picture.

sjmjax · #27 10-03-2009, 12:43 PM

If you like High Standards, you might pick up a copy of the current issue of Small Arms Review. November 2009 Volume 13 number 2.

Has an interesting article on the High Standard guns of WWII. Some information on Carl Gustave Swebilius and the origins of the company.

tabs · #28 10-04-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by deadin

tabs,
I'm impressed with those grips. I don't know I've seen them before. Anyway, I did a little research on them and I wouldn't call them factory "standard", rather factory special order.

The owners manual/parts list I found show them as costing $8.50 while the regular plastic ones were only $2.00. (Parts list dated 6-52)

On the Mdl's HE, GE and GO they were standard grips as they were the deeelux guns from HS in their day.

HAWKEYE10 · #29 10-07-2009, 05:12 PM

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Ilove High Standard's. I will show off my two. Don

They are just alike.

BLACKHAWKNJ · #30 10-07-2009, 06:41 PM

I treasure my 1972 Victor.

CAJUNLAWYER · #31 10-07-2009, 07:39 PM

Not me.Go ugly early I always say

Cyrano · #32 10-07-2009, 10:34 PM

I started serious pistol shooting in the early 1950s with a High Standard Supermatic S-101, the kind with the two oblong ports on either side of the front sight. Traded it for a S&W 41 about 1959. Still have the 41, 4 digit SN. Finally found another one of the Supermatics, weights and all. That one's a keeper too.

35Rem · #33 10-07-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by deanodog

Don't forget about this type of High Standard. Double nine with nine shot capacity. Thousands of rounds through it. Horrible DA trigger but single action is no too bad.

My dad has one just like it, bought in the mid 60's. Great little shooter. Wish someone would bring them back out.
My Uncle bought one at the same time, killed a flying quail with it on a dare/bet. Pure luck. His was left in a car and never returned. Dad still has his.