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Poor man's buffler gun
Got myself a new .22 rifle today.
It ain't a S&W, but it's a neat way to put an expensive rifle back to work.
Here is a link to another feller's thread on another forum
He takes better pictures than I do and there is a video too.
svartkrutt.net board - From .45-70 to .22 LR
I got mine sighted in at 50 feet with 9 shots and then shot a group at 20 yards that I could cover with a dime.
I cheated a bit. I used cross sticks rather than leanin' on the corner of a shed.
I'm a happy camper.
Them Prairie Dogs are in for some excitement next spring.
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Now that is nice !!!
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11-09-2009, 08:19 PM
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Iggy,
That my friend is awesome. What a great idea!!!
giz
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Giz, it's cheaper from Shiloh than from the other vendors including Crossno.
http://www.shilohrifle.com/catalog/p...roducts_id=208
There is another version by Lee Shaver in which the firing chamber that holds the .22 cartridge comes out like a 45-70 case, but the rifle's firing pin hits another firing pin to fire the cartridge.
It also entails tightening up lock nuts to lock the barrel in place. This version couldn't be simpler to install or use. Grease it up, slide it in and shoot.
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That's pretty nice looking.
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I love it, Iggy. Good job.
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It was rifles like this that wiped out the huge mouse herds that roamed the plains in the 1870's, eventually forcing tribes of cats into submission on cat reservations.
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Oh, man, now I am going to have to try that out come springtime! I didn't even know they made such a thing, and I have an old Shiloh that would be just right with one of them. What a great P-dog gun! I imagine the sights would have to be adjusted quite a bit from the 45-70 settings?
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Sir, that's very cool. FWIW, though, I'd be inclined to call it a "buffler man's squirrel gun." 
Semper Fi,
Ron H.
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Oh, man, now I am going to have to try that out come springtime! I didn't even know they made such a thing, and I have an old Shiloh that would be just right with one of them. What a great P-dog gun! I imagine the sights would have to be adjusted quite a bit from the 45-70 settings?
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I don't know how that is going to work out. At 20 yards one increment on the Vernier sight moved it just a fraction of an inch.
That's gonna be part of the inexpensive learning process. Or, you could go with the Lee Shaver version in .17 Mach 2 rimfire.
RonH,
You have a good point there.
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I wonder how difficult it would be to design and build a .22 LR liner for a Sharps Borchardt? With an integral extractor that is operated by the Sharps extractor? Just what I need; another project.
Is there a loss of velocity from firing a .22 LR in such a long barrel?
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I am not familiar with the intricacies of the Borchardt but things are pretty tiny with the Crossno version.
Crossno indicates that the conversion will work in Remington Rolling Blocks, but the hammer must be removed to allow insertion of the conversion barrel into the receiver.
An additional mechanism to extract the cases would complicate things quite a bit.
The existing extractor will pull the conversion barrel out a bit in the regular Sharps, but it is a hard pull because of the snug fit, and can't be good for the extractor.
The maker recommends using a plastic plug that comes with the gun and fits in the muzzle and a cleaning rod to push the barrel from the gun to where one can grip it and pull it out.
I haven't seen the Lee Shaver version. It is my impression that the chamber is extracted and then the fired case is extracted and a new round inserted, then the chamber re-inserted into the gun, but that may not be the case.
The Crossno version seems to be more popular with those who have seen or used both due the simplicity of insertion and reloading. Accuracy seems to be about equal with both versions.
The conversion barrel is only about 25 inches long and I don't perceive any velocity loss, but so far I have only fired about 20 rounds.
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