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Old 12-04-2009, 06:57 PM
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Well, now that deer season is winding down and I am trying to back into some routine as my wife recovers, I am looking past deer season (what's left of it) it's time to turn hunting into pest control. The whole upstate NY area has been plagued with coyotes on a massive scale. There has even been a couple of articles in the local paper on the subject. Ten days ago I took the carcass of a roadkilled deer (was in good shape except for two busted legs and the .223 hole in the skull where the local deputy dispatched it) that I butchered. This is what it looked like only three days later. I took the picture on Thanksgiving morning. I also caught this coyote going by on camera earlier that same morning. The deer had been dragged about 20 yards from where I had left it. Season on coyotes is open until the end of March. Between ruffed grouse and coyotes, I will be hunting for quite a while.

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Old 12-04-2009, 07:11 PM
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Yep...that's my intended target for the second year in a row. I'm out tomorrow to do some callin'. The choice is about the backup gun these days. I've been shooting a few with handguns, but this year I'm trying to pull one down with a Flintlock rifle.

The other primary gun is a Remington 700 Tactical in .223

When it snows, track them back to their digs...

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Talk about picking the bones clean! Not enough left for the flies!
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:32 PM
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Nice post and great pictures but why do I need a 48 inch moniter to view the picture and message? Seems like most of the photo's are bigger than I can see. The writing goes way off of the screen.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:41 PM
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how's the bird hunting, i haven't been able to find partridge down here in southern vermont for a couple years.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:51 PM
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David, in the Southern Zone we have until 12/13 for gun, then until 12/22 for muzzleloader. So still 18 days to go.
Have only seen a spike and a couple button bucks so far, and nary a doe. Hunters are complaining of slim sightings this year in lower NYS.
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Pownal55, Living down in Western Mass., I haven't seen many partridges in the last 8-10 years. That's when we started getting reports of wide spread coyote population around the Berkshires. I used to hunt them alot 15-20 years ago. I was under the impression that you had good partridge huntin' in the Green Mountains. Is the deer huntin' any better in SW Vermont???? I always wanted to hunt in Vermont......but it's quite a drive to get up there. Bob

Now I hunt "put and take" stocked pheasents and "wild" rabbits in my area. Since I don't have a dog, I don't see many of them either!!! I mainly go out for a walk with a shotgun in my hands, nowadays. Most of the rabbits are in the backyard of houses, these days. I've got 3 of theminmy backyard!!!! The 'yotes have made short work of them, in the farm fields where I hunt. Not many people even bother to hunt around here.
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wait till you get some hogs, they dont even leave the bones!
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how's the bird hunting, i haven't been able to find partridge down here in southern vermont for a couple years.
Better, after two years of killing every Coyote I could at every opportunity...year round.

18 birds this year on my land...



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a season on coyotes? they are pests to be shot on sight at any time.
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the deer numbers around here have dropped like a rock the last three or four years. rifle season i only saw six deer, in the past i would see fifteen to twenty or more. i have not seen a woodcock in ten years or a partridge in three years hunting prime habitat. coyotes are big and fat so i bought a .204 ruger and a foxpro electronic call. i hope they appreciate it.
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I quit whacking coyotes a few years ago. After MO Cons. Dept. did stomach analysis and found coyotes eat 4% or less of feathered critters and 50% PLUS of free-ranging cats. They don't hit our deer enough to worry about. I'm more concerned with the way free-ranging cats are decimating our native birds and other native critters.

I just watch them these days...the deer hunters who hunt our farm are asked not to shoot coyotes. They are asked to shoot every free-ranging cat they see.

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Old 12-05-2009, 07:18 AM
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+1 on the free ranging cats. About 4 years ago a friend of mine was getting her chicken coop raided. The damage done was too bad to be weasels and didn't look like any raccoon either. I set out a large trap and caught a mangy feral cat that looked like a overgrown housecat and had all the manners of a badger. It took a cylinder full of .22 magnums to the head and neck area to dispatch the critter. After leaving the carcass in the woods for a month, the remains of the chickens disappeared, but nothing ever touched that cat. No more chicken losses after that. I don't see many stray cats running around here in the Adirondacks, but we have a great over abundance of hawks and owls. As one old timer put it to me, there should be a limited season on some of the birds of prey, because we have no rabbits in some areas and few grouse. Farther north, fewer birds of prey, and more small game animals. But coyotes, well they are like the plague up here. I remember one fall I found three deer carcasses, no more than 200 yards apart, and all three been run down by coyotes, had their hind legs chewed up the thighs, and left for dead.
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"I found three deer carcasses, no more than 200 yards apart, and all three been run down by coyotes, had their hind legs chewed up the thighs, and left for dead."

Sounds more like dogs. Coyotes catch it, they usually eat it. Dogs getting fed at home, on the other hand. . .
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We don't have any season on them where I live, and you can take them 24/7/365. And the numbers still rise!
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