Anyone surpress their revolver?

[SWBigBang]

There are always reliability issues when surpressing a semi-auto along with additional noise when it cycles.

But one really doesn't seem many revolvers with a surpressor yet there shouldn't be reliability issues or extra noise from the slide.

Does anyone have one and if so who is the manufacturer and how quiet is it?

[Evil One]

With the revolver you have the cyl gap.
The nagant can be silenced I do believe... and there was a custom 625 made for use with a silencer, however it had a shield built around the cyl.


Jim

[DeathGrip]

Originally Posted by Evil One

With the revolver you have the cyl gap.
The nagant can be silenced I do believe... and there was a custom 625 made for use with a silencer, however it had a shield built around the cyl.


Jim

PVC?...........

[ladder13]

Let's get Caj in here

[Gun-runner]

I always use a really thick down pillow when I'm " On a Job". Always works for me!

[Marshall 357]

Thats a good one Gun-runner!

[Steave]

I sincerely hope this was posted as a joke by someone who just turned off Hawaii Five-0, which did al it could to promote the suppressed revolver.

[Bear Claw Chris Lappe]

Originally Posted by Steave

I sincerely hope this was posted as a joke by someone who just turned off Hawaii Five-0, which did al it could to promote the suppressed revolver.

It and the show "Hunter" with Fred Dryer.

There was a suppressed H&R 929 .22 revolver that was used in at least 3 episodes as a prop.

[SWBigBang]

Originally Posted by Evil One

With the revolver you have the cyl gap.

Didn't even think about that.

Originally Posted by Evil One

The nagant can be silenced I do believe...

I saw that video too which got me thinking about it.

[Evil One]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ssed-revolver/


Jim

[CAJUNLAWYER]

You can't suppress revolvers easily unless you have an unlimited budget and German Engineering....that's why you use fake suppressors on them. DUH.
Besides why would one want to suppress their revolver????? I mean suppress your feelings, suppress your wife, suppress your emotions, suppress your desires, but you shouldn't suppress your revolver.

[gr8AmericanBash]

Originally Posted by CAJUNLAWYER

You can't suppress revolvers easily unless you have an unlimited bidget and German Engineering....that's why you use fake suppressors on them. DUH.

Is that a midget that is a little bitchy?

[ladder13]

Lowe's has a sale on black pvc, let's get the economy moving.

[Jst1mr]

Perhaps if you wrapped your weak hand around the B/C gap.... then use the black PVC to hit yourself on the head so you forget how bad your hand hurts, then call in the lawyers to sue S&W, then....

[sipowicz]

Just go Godfather Part 2 style and wrap it up in a towel before firing....just remember to drop it after you shoot since it will most likely be on fire. I always felt Bruno Kirby should have wet it first...

[s&wchad]

I remember an episode of Hawaii Five-O where the assassin put his AR-7 together, screwed on a scope and silencer and started blasting away. Darn thing sounded like a .30-06. No sense letting reality get in the way of a cheesy story.

I would love to have a silenced .22. We can’t even have a Gamo Wisper in this State (AG ruling), but machine guns are OK. Very strange…

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Originally Posted by sipowicz

Just go Godfather Part 2 style and wrap it up in a towel before firing....just remember to drop it after you shoot since it will most likely be on fire. I always felt Bruno Kirby should have wet it first...

Leave the gun......Take the cannoli

[Onomea]

I just wear earmuffs when I shoot my revolver. Really suppresses the sound!

I suppose if you wanted to shoot someone so they wouldn't hear, you could ask them to please put on some muffs, too, and then shoot 'em...

[tallpaul]

There was a ruger redhawk silenced by Knights Armament I think if my memory serves me well... ah yes heres a picture of one... they had several variants done for a "special project"



The nagant and a few other Russian orphans are too occasionally.

YouTube - Silenced 1895 Nagant revolver (NFA)

[WC145]

^^^ An expensive solution to a nonexistent problem.

[tallpaul]

Originally Posted by WC145

^^^ An expensive solution to a nonexistent problem.

I luv the ignorant....

just because you don't have a need or see a use for something does not mean its not worth doing.

One of the things they wanted to do was successfully accomplished- to have a suppressed repeater that the brass was not left at the scene...

most folk don't see the "need" for full auto or suppression... most of that is because they are cheap farts!

[woodsltc]

Originally Posted by WC145

^^^ An expensive solution to a nonexistent problem.

Doe anyone else see a similarity between fake supressers and the "the lock" on S&W's ????

Don

[Gun-runner]

What's this Hawaii Five-O thing everyone is talking about? Is it a place that makes silenced revolvers? Sounds cool.

[Gun-runner]

Originally Posted by Onomea

I just wear earmuffs when I shoot my revolver. Really suppresses the sound!

I suppose if you wanted to shoot someone so they wouldn't hear, you could ask them to please put on some muffs, too, and then shoot 'em...

They don't work that well when shooting a Ruger Blackhawck in 30 carbine though. You need plugs and muffs! I shot mine next to a guy with plugs and he kept trying to stuff his plugs deeper into his ears. That damned thing is LOUD!

[imjin138]

They had some suprressed revolvers on Kojak too, just one twist and off you go. PHFFT, was the only sound you heard.

[WC145]

Originally Posted by tallpaul

I luv the ignorant....

just because you don't have a need or see a use for something does not mean its not worth doing.

One of the things they wanted to do was successfully accomplished- to have a suppressed repeater that the brass was not left at the scene...

most folk don't see the "need" for full auto or suppression... most of that is because they are cheap farts!

Because I see that weapon as an answer to an unasked question doesn't mean that I'm ignorant or that I don't appreciate the creativity and the effort it took to bring the idea to fruition. It simply means that I don't view it in the same light as you, you shouldn't let that upset you.

I'll assume, given your response to my post, that you have some insight to the creation of that weapon and maybe some relationship with the builders. If that's the case, let them know that I'll be happy to help them design a brass catcher that can be adapted to any repeating action. That would accomplish the same goal, be usable on existing platforms, and could be made for a small fraction of the cost of that project. Nothing ignorant about that, is there?

[rewster]

Originally Posted by tallpaul

I luv the ignorant....


most folk don't see the "need" for full auto or suppression... most of that is because they are cheap farts!

I resemble that remark !

[oldRoger]

Direct answer, I do not atttempt to suppress my revolvers.
I believe that in the good old days, the mob used “silenced” 22 revolvers.
This was in the era that in solving their internal discipline problems they would approach the person to be disciplined during his daily trip to the Barber Shop for his shave and shoot him at near contact distance in the ear or back of the head.
Probably the “silencer” was more a part of the ritual than for its effectiveness.
But, I am fairly certain that a suppressor on a K22 would reduce the sound quite a bit. Yes, there is a cyl-forcing cone gap, but it’s a very small one. You would have the option of shorts or longs as well.

[tallpaul]

Originally Posted by WC145

I'll assume, given your response to my post, that you have some insight to the creation of that weapon and maybe some relationship with the builders. If that's the case, let them know that I'll be happy to help them design a brass catcher that can be adapted to any repeating action. That would accomplish the same goal, be usable on existing platforms, and could be made for a small fraction of the cost of that project. Nothing ignorant about that, is there?

I am not associated with the build or the builders. I do however enjoy the NFA world even if not to the extent I would like.

As with most engineering arenas some trial and error is needed to prove or disprove the practicality of many idea's

An external brass catcher while effective are a lot bulkier than the cylinder that contains the shells. Also the action noise is less with the revolving action vs most other repeating actions.

The program did not go to far that us mere mortals know of but that does not mean there aren't a warehouse load of them somewhere

The silencer game was at a stand still for a long while until the k baffle was discovered through experimentation and now some of the newer designs are even better... some of the now standard designs were thought to be too expensive and un needed but they sure do work well compared to the old standards.

too expensive or impractical may be a legit excuse for the cheap- or even the masses but not always for everyone

Then again I regularly carry 500.00 pocket knives and I am not "rich" by any standard- I do however appreciate quality and gadgetry.

[Smithhound]

I have in my book collection a pictorial history of Vietnam, in it there is a picture of a tunnel rat, dirty and scared looking, coming out of a hole with a clear view of what appears to be a S&W M15, suppressed.
While I agree that the cylinder gap issue is an insurmountable problem, someone obviously tried it.
I've also seen pictures of what I can only describe as 'shock waves' of the air blast from a revolver, how they were done, or what the name of this type of photography is I don't know, but it clearly shows the shock wave from both the cylinder gap and barrel gasses, and the cylinder gas blast is much larger than the barrel gas blast. Whether that is a matter of timing, being the gas from cylinder gap has had a microsecond longer to form than the gas from the barrel I would thing is debatable.
If I can find that pic of the suppressed tunnel rat gun I'll try to scan it and post.
RD

Found it!!
Could not scan, due to the lay of the book, but took a picture of the picture. Hope I'm not violating any copyright laws, so to do credit to the worthy, this is from the book 'Vietnam, a Complete Photographic History' from Tess Press. Credit for the photo is not mentioned. I highly recommend this book, great history, no political lean either way and just stunning photo's.

Caption along with the photo reads:
'January 21, 1967-American trooper specializing in tunnel searches climbs out of a hole, silencer pistol in hand, after pursuing Viet Cong. GI's who specialize in this work are called tunnel rats. In this instance nauseating gas was pumped into the tunnel complex to drive out the VC'
Page 301, bottom left pane.



There it is. What do you all think? Model 15? Model 18?
Hard to argue with this.
RD

[scooter123]

If supressors were legal in my state, I would try it simply to see how much noise was contributed by the B/C gap.

There are mufflers for automobiles that are nothing more than a narrow "tuned" gap and the noise reduction can be varied by simply varrying the size and length of that gap. I suspect that a revolver could be effectively suppressed by simply adjusting the parameters of the B/C gap. However, it's also quite likely that tuned gap would be prone to carbon fouling and the gun may seize up after a relatively low round count.

[john3136]

Pretty sure that agents from Control and KAOS (incorporated in Delaware) used suppressed revolvers from time to time.

The old pistol-in-the-hammer trick - that's twice this month!

[gaucho1]

I recall reading about use of suppressed Dan Wessons by S.A. arming
unsophisticated agents working against deep targets.
The writer explained they were able to dial the gap very tight,and
reduce the noise to a functional level.

[imjin138]

I am reading an older novel right now 'The Evil that Men do" by A J Lance. This was also a movie with Charles Bronson..

In the novel his hero uses a customized S&W model 57 with a 5 inch barrel and a bomar ventilated rib on top with micrometer sights. That actually sounds pretty neat. But then he goes on that it also has a detachable suppresor. The supressor is described as being more large that the ones shown in the movies. i bet i has to be to supress the .41 Magnum.

In the movie Bronson just asks to be supplied with a large caliber handgun which tuns out to be a 4 inch N frame. No suppressor. Bronson seemed to know guns.


Other wise the book is ok,

I did watch a movie last night and the bad guy had a suppressed high standard .22 that sounded like a 30.06 going off. and the the guy who got shot did about 4 flips after being hit.