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Low ready vs high ready
We used to train in my dept. from low ready, ala Don Johnson in Miami Vice..recently we went to high ready with the gun brought back into your chest and then thrust out straight in front of you...it took a little getting used to but I was practicing it at the range today and to me it feels a bit quicker on target....any of you guys train that way...
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You might try timing both with an electronic timer. We used to teach a "low ready" that amounted to having the weapon at belt level, pointed straight out. Someone got an attack of the "liabilities" from seeing that one and we went back to low ready. Is your chest level position with the weapon in safety circle position or pointing outward?
I doubt there's any significant time difference between any of the various ready positions-unless you "bowl" the weapon up from low ready. Supposedly, there's no real time difference between low ready and hand on holstered pistol with retention devices released. Of course, that kinda eliminates the teddy bear factor of having the weapon already in hand.
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I was trained at high ready. It helps keeps the rounds on target, you don't have floating rounds due to moving from low ready to on target. Not to mention, if you don't have time to get to a propper shooting stance than a "premature" fire will be closer on target than a premature from the low ready. I was never trained in the low ready, so the high ready is 2nd nature to myself.
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I find that after a few Tequila's it's much easier to be high ready.
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I used to keep up with all the modern techniques when I was younger. Then as I got older, and a little more educated in reality, I learned the "old cowboy" techniques, modified them here and there and stuck with them. It did make a big difference in time too.
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I saw sheriff Wilson on a shooting show and he said keep the gun low. If you have it high it can be blocked and you can't get it down but if it is blocked down at least you can shoot the person in the leg. I saw one program that said to shoot twice in the chest and pause, if it didn't do any good to shoot in the head. Another program said to shoot twice in the chest and once in the head as quick as you can. Last Wed. night Michael Bane said to shoot three times in the chest and once in the head as fast as you can. My thinking is why shoot at the chest if you are able to hit the head and if you can't hit the head keep hitting the chest. Gun techniques and ideas have to keep changing so new stuff can be sold. Same with health and medicine. One report says one thing and another report says the opposite. What it gets down to is the experts just want to keep getting paid. Individuals need to have enough sense to know what works for them and do that. Larry
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sip try the blue pill?
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Sip: The best technique for 'clearing a building' is the low/medium ready for reasons already stated and you don't want to block your low vision as the bad guy might be lying on the floor. The best technique for being ready to jump into a gunfight is the high ready. So it depends on where you are at and how immediate the threat is. Hope this helps. ....... Big Cholla
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Originally Posted by sipowicz
We used to train in my dept. from low ready, ala Don Johnson in Miami Vice..recently we went to high ready with the gun brought back into your chest and then thrust out straight in front of you...it took a little getting used to but I was practicing it at the range today and to me it feels a bit quicker on target....any of you guys train that way...
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we trained at both. I thing the difference in the training was that the low ready was if you were not engaged and maybe clearing a building or not in immediate contact with "danger". I think were were trained that the high ready was if you were holding on a "target" or were pretty darn sure you were fixing to be engaged.
Someting about the low ready being safer for "non-combatants" and the low ready giving the officer just a slpit second longer for his brain to decide shoot or don't shoot.
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I say there is no right or wrong here. Simply what works best for you and is practiced.
One or the other may not fit all situations. We must be able to adapt to any and all situations that may arise because there are too many variables.
That being said, in close quarters situations and limited sight distance, I prefer the high ready. I may not have time to bring the gun up in time to shoot.
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My dept uses the low ready, as it gives you a clear view of the suspect's hands and it is still fast up on target if the need arises.
"As in when it goes from cover mode to dispatching a dirt-chicken mode."
Sip - the best to clear a building is hand grenades through the windows, but they won't let us use that technique in the US.
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Always preferred the "low-ready" position...about six inches below a perp's beltline. That gives you a lot of options.
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What scotsbrea said. The sucked into the chest stuff takes more movement and gives a close in bad guy the chance to shove the muzzle under your chin. You lose a lot of mechanical advantage with the wrists on chest method.
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At our last qualification session, they were teaching us to stay at a "higher" level and scanning the area for additional targets or bad guys and not to drop down to the "low ready" position until the area had be completely cleared. I found it hard to do, due to it being a new habit.
For years we were trained to go to the "low ready" position and old habits are hard to break.
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