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Mouse repellent
What is a good product for an indoor mouse repellent? Yesterday we had to replace our stove because the little buggers had chewed the wires. We had seen them on it many times, and they would run up into the top. I want something that will keep them away from it that won't smell bad. Also it needs to be harmless to cats. Yeah, I know, they should be doing their job in this regard, they're kinda clueless, but extremely cute. We have used traps with some success, but I'd rather just keep them away. We live on an acreage, so there is no shortage of mice here. Anybody have any good ideas?
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If you have that many I would get professional help. Exterminators have products available to them that you can't buy on the open market. You need to rid your entire house of them and keep them out.
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A friend of mine uses the Bounce fabric softener dryer sheets to keep mice away from his classic car soft trim and wiring. I have no idea if it really works or if he just thinks it does, but he's convinced.
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I heard mothballs work but I don't know how you can hold the little buggers down long enough...
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Any poison will kill the mouse in the most inconvenient location. Ever have a mouse die inside your wall? Unpleasant smell, to say the least, and the only remedy is removal of drywall. We've trapped ours in the past, and caught/killed as many as a dozen a week. The key lies in getting rid of whatever they are coming after. It's no longer cold outside, so most likely they are after food and water. During an infestation of our bedroom, I found some cookies that had been inadvertently put under the bed. Get rid of cookies, trap mice, problem solved.
We haven't had a problem the last couple of years. Maybe because we added this guy to our herd.
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Not being funny - different cat needed. The Mickster here was an indoor only cat for the first 8 years of his life. If it walks, flies, swims or crawls, and weighs less than his 17 pounds, it does not come in or near my house in the woods without suffering the consequences. Since you like cats anyway, what's one more?
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The right cat is definitely the answer. We have a big Siamese who suffers no mice or rats. I have trapped, shot, poisoned, and tried to wall out, without success. Felines have been making their living this way for millennia nothing works as well.
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You need to try to seal up your house so they cant get in if thats possible,mothballs,fabric sheets,plug holes with tin foil they should not be bad now that the weathers warming up but maybe a pro is what ya need.If you see mice or rats during the day when your active in your house then you got a big problem. Good luck.
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Roger, sorry, that one doesn't look like much of a mouser to me. He looks like he would rather have a catnip sandwich and a beer than chase after a rat.
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I appreciate the responses. I personally subscribe to the "let the cats eat 'em" mentality, but the Missus doesn't really want the cats in the house, although we have three kittens in now, mainly for my 12 year old daughter. The number of cats we have could properly be called a herd. Some of them are pretty good mousers too, but she wants to keep them out of the house as much as possible.
Living in the country in a 101 year old house means this stuff is going to happen. I had some spray that I got at a tractor dealer, but they told me it was apparently "Environmentally unfriendly". Probably contributes to global warming or something. I'll try some of your suggestions and get back to you.
One more thought. Maybe I'll do surveillance in the dark with my night vision equipment and pop 'em with the K-22. (I'll load it with shorts).
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a plate of cheese, a 38 with rat shot, and your mouse treeing cat. That is a good way to spend the weekend!
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I appreciate the responses. I personally subscribe to the "let the cats eat 'em" mentality, but the Missus doesn't really want the cats in the house, although we have three kittens in now, mainly for my 12 year old daughter. The number of cats we have could properly be called a herd. Some of them are pretty good mousers too, but she wants to keep them out of the house as much as possible.
Living in the country in a 101 year old house means this stuff is going to happen. I had some spray that I got at a tractor dealer, but they told me it was apparently "Environmentally unfriendly". Probably contributes to global warming or something. I'll try some of your suggestions and get back to you.
One more thought. Maybe I'll do surveillance in the dark with my night vision equipment and pop 'em with the K-22. (I'll load it with shorts).
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Actually that 'enviromentally unfriendly" stuff is the best thing you can use
Good old fashioned Victor mouse traps baited with peanut butter always works. Please do not use those sticky pads-I don't mind killing them-but I can't abide letting them sit there and suffer.
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Actually that 'enviromentally unfriendly" stuff is the best thing you can use
Good old fashioned Victor mouse traps baited with peanut butter always works. Please do not use those sticky pads-I don't mind killing them-but I can't abide letting them sit there and suffer.
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Actually, Caj I feel the same way, and my Wife CERTAINLY does. The traps we have used are actually ones that electrocute them immediately. They really work believe it or not. I somehow feel Jack Bauer would like 'em.
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Print out a few of these and place where ever rodents are seen.
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Misty, I don't want to clean up cat barf.
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Now that's funny!!!!Scared me off and i'm not a mouse!
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We have suffered from the same issues here in rural MT. A few things that seem to have worked for us...
Seal up ANY holes or cracks....so matter how small. I went under the crawlspace that runs through half the house...and it was amazing the small cracks I found. Using a putty knife I plugged with steel wool...then hit the crack with foam sealer or caulking.
Seal around plumbing and wiring holes. THAT seemed to make a big difference.
I also stuck five pounds of mouse bait (eat it & they die) in plastic 2 qt milk jugs all around the house and a mess of them in the garage, storage shed, barn, etc. This enabled them to go into the bottle through the small hole...eat...then leave and die. One must patrol the area though and pick up any carcasses found.
Do not leave any cat food, dog food or bird food out they can safely access. I stuck a live trap under the bird feeder and caught 5 in one evening!!
It's a never ending battle against weeds and rodents in rural America!
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Mice seem to hold meetings under kitchen appliances. Number one the stove, number two the fridgeifrator. I had a passle of em try to live here rent free a few years ago. Most effective were the old snap traps like Caj recommended. Get the kind with the flat plastic trip designed to look like swiss cheese (complete with holes and yellow color). Fill the holes in the plastic cheese with peanut butter, and wipe it flush. There's no way they can get it out without getting snapped. Push the trap behind appliance close to wall, so pets can't reach. You cannot reuse traps. The mice will smell the blood an realize what happened to one of their buddies. Like mentioned you have to find where there coming in. I think UV light may show up where they congregate outside before entering house.
I had one get in a Canary cage and got so fat on seeds he couldn't get out. I went to feed the bird one day and there was Mr. mouse looking at me through the bars like "what you want??"
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I agree that the old fashioned traps work well. Perhaps though, you could persuade your wife to let one cat come in for a while, cats really are very good at this business. It’s going to be very difficult to plug all of the mouse holes in an old house.
An inside cat has the patience to simply wait and watch, it is over quickly, you would probably find them all in a row every morning (or on your pillow).
The big Siamese Cat is a retired stud, he has suddenly found that he has a lot of time on his hands. He of course has no interest in eating rodents, but he is very good at ending their days. He and I go hunting 2-3 times a day, lots of wood rats around the bird feeders. All of the slow ones are gone; we are working on the faster ones now.
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Do not shoot them with a .177 pellet out of a pellet pistol. Did this one year at Christmas time and had to rewrap a bunch of presents that were under the tree. Seems they got blood all over them and I had to patch a hole in the base board where the pellet stopped after going through the mouse. Seemed like a good idea at the time
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A sack of assorted snakes will rid you of your mouse problem for sure! But it causes another problem.
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[QUOTE=JcMack;135480090].........You cannot reuse traps. The mice will smell the blood an realize what happened to one of their buddies....../QUOTE]
Not true in my experience. I spent the first 40 years of my life living in older homes with mouse problems and used the same traps over and over. The new home we now live in gets an occasional mouse in the basement, so I still run a trap line to keep them from setting up a permanent camp. The key is mostly how you bait the trap and the trap placement. Peanut butter is good if you place it in the trip lever so it can't be eaten without tripping the trap. Also, mice tend to travel along walls and stay close around the perimeter of any objects in their traffic pattern. They rarely venture across open spaces, so set traps tight against walls and any other objects in the areas they infest.
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A mouse can squeeze trough a hole the size of a pencil eraser, good luck closing them all up. Use traps.......
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I had one mousie I called "La Senorita mousasita escapeo". She escaped/beat every trap I put down. She even left chewed items in the middle of the floor for me to find to incite me to madness. I put several of the out of work college grads in the neighborhood to the task. After thousands of hours of sleepless hours/nights we came up with "Le shue box del mourto". A shoe box filled with snaptraps with a hole on each side/end. Lid on to protect pets, big glob of PB in the center of traps. Adios La Senorita, you were a formidable adversary.
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A new batch of cats.
Sounds weird but my wife swears by long tail orange cats as the best mousers.
We have two of them. Yes, we still have gophers but we also have regular gifts of entrails, heads, fresh dead rodents, you name it.
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Back in the mid-60's while on a government sponsored year long tour of Southeastern Asia I discovered that a 20 round burst from an M-16 would generally take care of any mouse or rat. Not recommended inside the house though.
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Back in the mid-60's while on a government sponsored year long tour of Southeastern Asia I discovered that a 20 round burst from an M-16 would generally take care of any mouse or rat. Not recommended inside the house though.
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Only problem with the cat eating them is that they might get worms. Happened to one of my cats.
We recently had one mouse in our garage. I didn't want to use poison, snap traps, or glue traps since we have a 3 year old and two cats. I found these electric mouse traps at Home Depot. They're actually powered by 4 AA batteries. Rectangular box the size of a checkbook. Smear some peanut butter on the back wall, and leave the trap against the wall, so the long side is touching the wall. Mice like to run along the side of walls. Mouse goes in after the peanut butter, steps on the first metal plate on the bottom, activating the circuit. He continues on to the next one at the end where the peanut butter is, and ZAPP! Found him the next morning, DOA. The light blinks when you got him. Open the top of the trap, dump him, turn the switch on and off, resetting it, and wait for his brothers to come along. Best 20 bucks I ever spent on pest control. No blood, poison, glue, or dead rotting mice in the wall to stink up the place.
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A few of my cats have worms,I know when they barf,so I have to de-worm them~part of having hunting cats.
The electric trap sounds neat though,but I'd find a way to plug that sucker into the wall socket!
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While I have 3 cats, I have found that an air rifle, a quiet house and a metal pan of peanut butter will do a number on a mouse pretty quickly.
I used to sit and pick them off with an air rifle from across the house. It is great stalking skills drawing the little buggers out and then popping them.
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That's my experience. If you live in the country, you're going to have mice and there is no final solution. You just keep after them.
Of course do whatever you can to not tempt them to visit. Don't leave any food or candy anyplace they can get to it, and take the cat/dog food up at night. I would leave my dog's dry food out overnight because she liked to eat after I went to bed. That's a bad practice if you don't want mice.
I used to live trap them and give them a new home where some of the outdoor critters might make a meal of them. Too much trouble. Just buy the Victor traps and use them til they're no good anymore. The "myth" about not being able to reuse them is a clever marketing tactic. When I was a kid, no one threw them away. I still don't. Don't think mice are any smarter these days, but Victor likes selling traps.
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Take an all metal mouse cage trap(s), a can of liquid electric tape, a battery charger and peanut butter. Coat the outside of the trap with the liquid electric tape and the first three inches of the inside floor. Put a glob of peanut butter in the back of the trap. Place against the wall and hook the battery charger clips to two bare metal spots on the outside of the trap. We use this method in a ground mounted duck/goose blind. It kills the mice instantly. You can run several metal traps in series off of the same battery charger to get better coverage.
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kitties inside and outside.
(Never had a bullsnake attack a cat. They are h*ll on rattlesnakes, too.)
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From what I've read about those rats you're lucky 20 x 5.56 didn't just pizz 'em off!
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If you want to experience real grief, just get a mouser in the A/C system of you vehicle. It has happened to me twice with an SUV parked on the drive in the city. The other week our next door neighbour said that a mouse had set up home in the HVAC system of her car parked in their operating theatre clean garage. She was mortified, but I could barely contain my mirth. As Bugs would say, "Ain't I a stinker"?
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With mice in the house it's time to take the gloves off. Traps & cats are only partial answers. You need to keep the outside of the house trimmed of grass & brush for starters. Get a few of those plastic 'poison houses',(pet proof) they sell at the farm or home improvement stores. Fill them up with the block poison,close them & locate them around the outside edge of the house, out of the weather if possible. Check & refill as needed every few months. When you 'call in the experts', that's what they will do. We had mice in house & they ruined the outside A/C unit before I fought back effectively.
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Electronic Booger Blasters
Well, I read all the responses and haven't seen it mentioned yet, so all I have to go on is personal experience so take it for what it's worth and what you're paying for it . . .
I had always been curious about the "electronic pest controllers" you see in the discount stores, you know, the ones that emit above human hearing frequencies that just plug into a regular wall outlet and look like a small air freshener or some such. After years of trying traps and other remedies with varying success I found a card with six of the electronic marvels on it for a good price at the local clearance outlet one day and took a chance.
Brought them home and plugged them into outlets around the house and garage (works best with reflective hard surfaces like counter-tops and non-carpeted floors where the signals can "bounce", but we put them even in carpeted rooms though I suspect the sound waves are more absorbed there and don't cover as far) and the only way I knew they were "on" was the little LED shining. It sounds funny now, but I was amazed that after a couple of hours I actually noticed an exodus of bugs leaving the garage. After using them for several years now I notice that there are far fewer bugs that hang around during the summer months and when we occasionally notice evidence of a mouse trying to set up shop when the weather turns cold and they start seeking shelter, they don't seem to stay for more than a day or so before moving on to 'quieter' quarters.
The marketing literature says the high frequency sounds are uncomfortable and disrupting to vermin and in my limited experience they seem to work. They are advertised not to affect household pets and I've seen no evidence of any distress or discomfort from the family dogs or that they take any notice of them at all.
We jokingly refer to them as the "booger blasters" since they chase all manners of "boogers" such as bugs and mice out of the house. One unit covers an area of a couple of hundred square feet and apparently the units in the house extend coverage into the attics and crawl spaces as well since I've noticed the mice don't retreat to those areas and set up camp there, either.
Unfortunately, they don't seem to work on my brother-in-law . . . .
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