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Code for LEO's...and others
Got an e-mail from an east code PD...thought I'd share.
"I don't know how firm this is, but thought I'd share-
I'm on a call where I detained six kids- disturbance call- maybe there had been a fight or almost one. By the time we got there, all we had were these six kids from one side of it. The others had left.
While we were detaining them, one of them said to another, "Do you want to play "Call of Duty" live." I didn't really pay much attention.
After we released them- no charges because we didn't have anything, I was approached by another kid I get information from and he asked if I had heard the kid say that. He said kids are using references to some of the more violent games as a code as to whether they want to start resisting/fighting by saying "You wanna play [Insert Game Name] live." Some new code or something.
A few weeks later, I'm assisting another agency with a nine kid incident and heard the same thing- reference to a game and one asking another if they wanted to play "live".
Don't know how much validity to give to it, but thought I'd pass it on. Our kids come mostly from NJ, NY, CT. It may be a local or regional thing.
Anyway, it may be something to listen for."
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Ask him if he's played...
"Want to go to the hospital bleeding"
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I think I still remember the 10 code.
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10-1 Call Your Command
10-2 Return To Your Command
10-3 Call Dispatcher By Telephone
10-4 Acknowledgment
10-5 Repeat Message
10-6 Standby
10-7 Verify Address
10-10 Possible Crime (prowler, suspicious person/vehicle, shots fired, etc.)
10-11 Alarm (specify type)
10-12 Police Officer/Security Holding Suspect
10-13 Assist Police Officer
10-14 License Plate Check - Occupied & Suspicious - Verify If Stolen
10-15 License Plate Check - Verify If Is Stolen - Occupied or Not
10-16 Vehicle is Reported Stolen
10-17 Vehicle is Not Reported Stolen
10-18 Warrant Check Shows An Active Warrant
10-19 Warrant Check Negative
Past /In progress Crime:
10-20/10-30 Robbery
10-21/10-31 Burglary
10-22/10-32 Larceny (specify: auto, from person, other)
/10-33 Explosive Device or Threat
10-24/10-34 Assault (specify)
10-25/10-35 Child Abuse
10-29/10-39 Other Crime (specify)
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Ask him if he's played...
"Want to go to the hospital bleeding"
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Kinda like, wanna play; 'maglite up the side of the head' live...Sorry I'm ol' school.
Su Amigo,
Dave
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks Sip, ours were a bit different.
10-84 1st unit on the scene
10-75 working fire
10-8 back in service
10-20 proceed with caution
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That's not mine, it's NYC...
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What's the code for "empty the gun"?
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Have a question????? It has been some time since I needed 10 codes. As we had secured channel we used plain speak...I have heard that more and more departments are going to abbreviated 10 codes or plain speak....What's the nitty gritty???
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With all the different codes out there we have gone to all plain speak,
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We don't use 10 codes either.
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Have a question????? It has been some time since I needed 10 codes. As we had secured channel we used plain speak...I have heard that more and more departments are going to abbreviated 10 codes or plain speak....What's the nitty gritty???
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The goal of the National Incident Management System to establish a national standard for critical incident response. One of the approaches is to eliminate codes so law enforcement can actually understand what each other are saying when people from different agencies respond to the same incident. Makes sense to me.
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10-1 Call Your Command
10-2 Return To Your Command
10-3 Call Dispatcher By Telephone
10-4 Acknowledgment
10-5 Repeat Message
10-6 Standby
10-7 Verify Address
10-10 Possible Crime (prowler, suspicious person/vehicle, shots fired, etc.)
10-11 Alarm (specify type)
10-12 Police Officer/Security Holding Suspect
10-13 Assist Police Officer
10-14 License Plate Check - Occupied & Suspicious - Verify If Stolen
10-15 License Plate Check - Verify If Is Stolen - Occupied or Not
10-16 Vehicle is Reported Stolen
10-17 Vehicle is Not Reported Stolen
10-18 Warrant Check Shows An Active Warrant
10-19 Warrant Check Negative
Past /In progress Crime:
10-20/10-30 Robbery
10-21/10-31 Burglary
10-22/10-32 Larceny (specify: auto, from person, other)
/10-33 Explosive Device or Threat
10-24/10-34 Assault (specify)
10-25/10-35 Child Abuse
10-29/10-39 Other Crime (specify)
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Interesting . . . the only one of those that matches the 10-codes we use is 10-4
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What's the code for "empty the gun"?
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10-DOH!!!
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I'd think the out of ammo code was 10-86d
Our codes were different 40 years ago as well. 10-98 was completed whatever, 10-8 was back in service. 10-7 was at the scene and out of the car, or taking a lunch brake, depending on the circumstances 10-9 was asking for a repeat of last trans.
Signal 7 was officer in trouble - drop the BS and get there.
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One of our favorites was 10-96: mental subject.
Those could be entertaining.
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I heard there was a 10 code for the gang bangers that stuffed there gun down the front of their pant and while removing said gun shot thier tool. If anybody knows what it is let me know. Doeboy
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We used 10-96 for mentals too in our FD.
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One of our favorites was 10-96: mental subject.
Those could be entertaining.
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Entertaining was an understatement. Only trouble was when the men started to undress they were gonna try to kill ya..when it was women getting their clothes off....oh man..watch out..They would usually try to tear your clothes off too. Just an observation. The fire guys and the cops where I worked pretty much used the same 10's...till we went to plain speech...in the fire dept I mean. We still used codes for bomb threats and hijackings. Darn media used to listen to our radio channels. Hated to deal with those people..Lie when the truth would do..
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Interesting . . . the only one of those that matches the 10-codes we use is 10-4
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Hence the "plain speak" movement.
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I am surprised no one has made the comment about a smokey bear going 10-100.
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I am surprised no one has made the comment about a smokey bear going 10-100.
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We've gone to an abbreviated 10 code & plain speak.
I guess the head shed thinks the "new generation rookies" are either too lazy or too stupid to remember them all.
But the silver backs continue to use the old codes just to aggravate the rookies and the head shed...I'm 10-98, 10-51 for 10-101 (finished last assignment, and enroute to some chow time).
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While still in use by many agencies and private firms, the old 10-code system is going the way of the dinosaur.
Technology has made "radio shorthand" where a dispatcher took down radioed info on a log with pen and paper acronistic when recording devices pretty much take down everything as it happens. It can be used in court and you don't want a jury of regular citizens being "coded out" by "This is 1 Adam 12 show us 10-24, 10-76, to the station to 10-42".
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[QUOTE=...Technology has made "radio shorthand" where a dispatcher took down radioed info on a log with pen and paper acronistic when recording devices pretty much take down everything as it happens. .....[/QUOTE]
The old system sure made you learn to write fast though! We had both hand written log and recorded air time for a while, then dropped the log pages all together.
The old 'job card' system with the track from the operators to the dispatchers hung on of course till CAD (Computer Aided Dispatch) came in in the mid80's. That's when plain language dispatch was also implemented and the 10-code was officially dropped altogether.
It took a while to get everyone to stop using it and go to plain language. Just habit. Once in a while somebody years after it was dropped would run accross a fight, robbery, stabbing, etc & call out suddenly with an address followed by a line of 10 codes and everything seemed to stop for that long instant till you repeated the plain language version.
Someone always seemed to be around that remembered.
I don't think there are too many now that would,at least not the full list of them.
A few would still use it just to confuse the newer people.
But with 60 to 70 cars or more sometimes on a primary channel (2 primarys), 10 codes sure cut down on air time which was always at a premium. Everybody always walking over everyone else. Then put the primarys together onto one channel at times as determined by Command. One dispatcher and 120+ cars. Thats alot of 10-codes for the shift.
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10-1 Call Your Command
10-2 Return To Your Command
10-3 Call Dispatcher By Telephone
10-4 Acknowledgment
10-5 Repeat Message
10-6 Standby
10-7 Verify Address
10-10 Possible Crime (prowler, suspicious person/vehicle, shots fired, etc.)
10-11 Alarm (specify type)
10-12 Police Officer/Security Holding Suspect
10-13 Assist Police Officer
10-14 License Plate Check - Occupied & Suspicious - Verify If Stolen
10-15 License Plate Check - Verify If Is Stolen - Occupied or Not
10-16 Vehicle is Reported Stolen
10-17 Vehicle is Not Reported Stolen
10-18 Warrant Check Shows An Active Warrant
10-19 Warrant Check Negative
Past /In progress Crime:
10-20/10-30 Robbery
10-21/10-31 Burglary
10-22/10-32 Larceny (specify: auto, from person, other)
/10-33 Explosive Device or Threat
10-24/10-34 Assault (specify)
10-25/10-35 Child Abuse
10-29/10-39 Other Crime (specify)
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Sip,
Remember that CA Agencies do not use the same 10-codes as other states. They do not use the International Phonetic Alphabet either. My agency, and, I believe, all Utah agencies, had a set of both 10-codes,l and 9-codes also. 10-codes were mostly procedural while the 9-codes were criminal. As someone else stated, the only one I see that agrees with ours was the pretty much universal 10-4.
All codes were done away with in my agency in favor of straight copy about 1985. A lot of the code was used so infrequently that no one used those items and either had to refer to the code card or resort to straight copy. And, yes, I still have my clip board with the laminated code card taped to it!
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There is virtually no radio transmission around here. If there is, it comes from officers on foot asking HQ for some information.
Everything here is on computer. Makes for good record keeping as well. Fewer misunderstood codes and the destination assigned is not picked up on a scanner.
Back in the day when codes were used, an adjoining city had a different set of codes. They came over to help while local PD went to a funeral of a fallen brother. A 10-45 came over the radio. That was a shooting locally but to those helping out, it was an airplane crash.
The computer stopped all miscomminication.
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I heard there was a 10 code for the gang bangers that stuffed there gun down the front of their pant and while removing said gun shot thier tool. If anybody knows what it is let me know. Doeboy
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actually some gangs use a code, not a 10 code but very similar, when the prospect gang member is in his probationary term, he is handed a 'book of knowledge', or a book of bylaws, containing all the gangs information on structure. A good example would be the Blood Gang, they have a B code, written and spoken B-?. The prospect must be able to read, understand, and quote the book before he is allowed to rise in rank. My mother worked gang control out at a prison for a while and was friends with the gang task force on the police department who let me do a lot of studying!
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The last department I was with dumped most of the 10 codes and went to plain speak when we went to county-wide frequencies. With the move to NIMS/ICS, the state agency I am with now only uses plain speak, although some of us "old-timers" still throw in an occasional 10-4.
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