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Old 07-11-2010, 09:55 AM
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I bought the movie, "The Sentinel" last week, with Michael Douglas, Kiefer Sutherland, and Eva Longoria starring.

Looked like they had SIG P-228 or 229's.

I think I read that the Secret Service uses P-229's in .357 SIG caliber. Don't know if they've had to shoot anyone with them yet, but suspect that this is a good combination for their needs.

Anyone know for sure?

The movie is pretty good, with Douglas suspected of being the first traitor in the Secret Service. The villain is really someone else, and his motives were not as clear as I'd hoped would be explained.

Has anyone else seen it?

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Old 07-11-2010, 10:27 AM
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Don't know which model Sig they carry but I know they use the 357 Sig caliber, as do the Federal Air Marshals.
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Both the USSS and the Air Marshals carry the P229 in .357 Sig, as do the State Police here in Virginia.


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Old 07-11-2010, 11:23 AM
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If I was Secret Service protecting the first family, I'd prefer a water pistol.
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The movie is pretty good, with Douglas suspected of being the first traitor in the Secret Service. The villain is really someone else, and his motives were not as clear as I'd hoped would be explained.

Has anyone else seen it?

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No, but if it has Eva Longoria in it, I am putting it on my list! I do not watch the TV show, but I think I could watch anything else she is in.

Edit: Netflix shows it has Kim Basinger Also. What a shame Even better!

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It's a good movie and it is a Sig they are using. Not sure of the model.
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229 Sigs in .357 sig is correct
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:07 PM
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No, but if it has Eva Longoria in it, I am putting it on my list! I do not watch the TV show, but I think I could watch anything else she is in.

Edit: Netflix shows it has Kim Basinger Also. What a shame Even better!


Yes, I should have mentioned Kim. She plays the First Lady, who is having an affair with Douglas's character. She's an excellent actress, as you surely know.

I'm not awfully fond of Douglas as an actor. He always seems to play himself, very aware that he is the star. And I think he overemotes, although emoting strongly seems to be about half the secret to being a successful actor/actress.

I do think he did fairly well in, Basic Instinct, although at times he evoked Sharon Stone's character's comment that authors have to achieve "suspension of disbelief" to get readers to accept some things in plots.

If you haven't seen, "The Sentinel", rent or buy it. I paid $5.99 in the bargain bin at a local used movie store, and think it was indeed a bargain.

I do wish that the scenes in Toronto had shown more of the RCMP and Toronto police, as local color. I'm sure that'd have pleased Canadian viewers, too.

Oh: "suspension of disbelief" again: Douglas was wounded by Sutherland's character but seemed to have recovered almost immediately! Only happens in movies and on TV.

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I do not care for Douglas either but he usually does a good job. I can ignore him and watch two of the most beautiful women around The Game and Fatal Attraction definitely had me on edge!. I put it on my NetFlix Que. Thanks, as it is getting harder to find decent movies these days. Plus I love my Sigs as much as SW.
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One thing that I have against Douglas other than his outspoken views favoring gun control is his playing that jerk Remington in, "The Ghost and the Darkness." No such character was involved in the real case of the Man-Eaters of Tsavo, and he diminished the really heroic acts of Col. J. H. Patterson, V.C. (In the movie Patterson was played by Val Kilmer, who didn't look much like the real Patterson.)

Douglas has a tendency to appear in movies that are largely vehicles for his status as a star. If the movies are good, too, it's usually coincidence, and because of the other actors. The guy just has a flair for excess drama.

But he seems to have married well. His wife is, in fact, a very good actress. (Catherine Zeta-Jones.)

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Don't know which model Sig they carry but I know they use the 357 Sig caliber, as do the Federal Air Marshals.


I heard that the Air Marshals used 357 Sigs, I was very surprised that they would use a caliber with such penetrating capabilities.

Wouldn't it make sense to use a very small, weak caliber so it doesn't punch holes in the fuselage?
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They also have P90s and possibly some FN Five Seven pistols to go with them. These have been in service for a while, replaced the old UZIs from the Reagan era and probably something in between.

USSS has these to shoot through soft armor.

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I heard that the Air Marshals used 357 Sigs, I was very surprised that they would use a caliber with such penetrating capabilities.

Wouldn't it make sense to use a very small, weak caliber so it doesn't punch holes in the fuselage?
The better .357 Sig JHP offerings are no more likely to overpenetrate than many other popular chamberings. Being a bit loud in a confined space is probably more of a problem than poking any holes. Explosive depressurization, at least in so far as handgun projectiles would cause it - is a myth and most systems on a plane are redundant.
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I thought the movie was pretty bad, with little gun research. After the agent is shot on his front porch, the responding agents note that his gun "safety" was in the "off" position, pretty hard to do with a P229.

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