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Old 11-10-2010, 11:26 PM
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What passes for the truth and history in this world is nothing more than a convenient story. It reads well and seems to make sense out of all the chaos.

Oswald wasn't an innocent bystander, beyond that I have no clue.

I met and came to know an eccentric fellow years ago. He appeared to be a nutty caretaker on a large farm. He had a beautiful young French wife who spoke little English. He held regular poker games with flag officers in the Military and old political power brokers. It seemed odd this fellow would know these folks, let alone socialize with them.

Turns out this fellow headed the assassination of Patton . (and he owned that huge farm not far from DC)

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Wait a second thar, m1gunner. You're telling us that Patton was assassinated? That's something I want to hear more about. . .a lot more.


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The story of the assissination of General Patton is here:

The Assassination Of General George Patton

and here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-new-book.html
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I call BS on this..

General Patton did not die of a "heart attack". He died of a pulmonary embolus. That is what happens when you take old folks(and young ones too) lay them on a bed and then allow their platelets to stick together in their veins. At the time, I am not certain they even had heparin, a systemic anticoagulant, that would have prevented/minimized a clot from forming. His cervical fracture which paralyzed him would have eventually led to his demise from other complications. This was 1945 folks!

As far as the German nationals starving, well, there was only so much food to go around. IIRC, the army of occupation (US) tried to feed the POW's as best they could but there were a lot of them.

IMNSHO this "assassination of Patton" is just so much revisionist history BS
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I call BS on this..

General Patton did not die of a "heart attack". He died of a pulmonary embolus. That is what happens when you take old folks(and young ones too) lay them on a bed and then allow their platelets to stick together in their veins. At the time, I am not certain they even had heparin, a systemic anticoagulant, that would have prevented/minimized a clot from forming. His cervical fracture which paralyzed him would have eventually led to his demise from other complications. This was 1945 folks!

As far as the German nationals starving, well, there was only so much food to go around. IIRC, the army of occupation (US) tried to feed the POW's as best they could but there were a lot of them.

IMNSHO this "assassination of Patton" is just so much revisionist history BS
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I am a History buff and I have followed the career of Gen. Patton during WWll. This is an interesting article, and at this time we will probably never know the truth. Even though he was a "loud-mouth" and a little "rough-around-the-edges", I would be hard pressed to believe that Gen. Eisenhower would sanction an assassination of one of his best wartime leaders. That said, who knows?? It does seem a bit strange that he had so many "close calls" AFTER the fighting was over, but never had so much as a scratch during the War.

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Even though he was a "loud-mouth" and a little "rough-around-the-edges", I would be hard pressed to believe that Gen. Eisenhower would sanction an assassination of one of his best wartime leaders. That said, who knows?? It does seem a bit strange that he had so many "close calls" AFTER the fighting was over, but never had so much as a scratch during the War.

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One thing to consider was the war was over so Patton's usefulness was diminished, and tensions were very high with the Allied powers all still mostly mobilized in Europe. Even in this pre-Cold War period Eisenhower knew he was sitting on a powder keg with the Soviets and Patton was figuratively waving around a match with his mouthing.

Interesting theory if nothing else.
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Interesting. Seems though that there were easier ways to shut Patton up if that was the problem: highly publicized show trial on something like the slapping incident, followed by reduction in rank, etc., and soon, anything he says is reduced to nothing in the public mind. Truman fired MacArthur; so what was the problem with just smearing Patton and then firing him, too? Kind of hard for me to picture Ike sanctioning any of this. Doesn't seem to be the way he rolled, you feel me?


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Take off your 21st century glasses and look at events from a 1945 perspective. We even had a nuke heading to Europe before the fall of Germany.

You tend to have a different perspective when you get to know some of the players.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry! The idea that the allied high command had to assassinate Patton to "silence" him is ludicrous beyond belief. All they had to do was transfer him to the military equivalent of Outer Mongolia and their problem was solved - assuming there was a problem. It had already happened following the infamous slapping incidents when Patton came within a hair's breadth of being relieved and sent home in disgrace. Who thinks up these absurd theories?
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Patton died of a pulmonary embolism. He was involved in a car accident on December 9th and was paralyzed from the neck down. He died on December 21st.

Considering both vehicles were moving at slow speeds, and everyone else involved in the accident were uninjured, I find it hard to believe the crash was intentional.
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A quote from the linked article says...."Target Patton", contains interviews with Mr Bazata, who died in 1999, and extracts from his diaries, detailing how he staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton's Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch."

Do you suppose this "low velocity projectile" was fired from "the grassy knoll"?...
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Wasn't the low velocity projectile idea part of the plot to "Brass Target" with George Kennedy?
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There was a movie made along this story line. IIRC, George Kennedy played Patton and Max Von Sydow was the assasin. Write enough theories and someone will believe them.
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Bush did it.
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Here is an interesting book on the subject, which I have read. It makes a case that Patton was bumped before he could retire and start mouthing off about the Russians, embarrassing Ike, Truman, Churchill and Stalin no end. It shows how the assassination might have been accomplished and covered up. George Patton was a fantastic battle leader, arguably the best of all time, but his usefulness to the "cause" of world "cooperation" had ended. It is a shame that such a valiant soldier and inspired leader met death in such a strange manner before his time.

"Target: Patton" by Robert K. Wilcox, Regnery Publishing, 2008.

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