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Old 11-16-2010, 07:42 AM
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Okay, I got my 1937 K-22 and and a 22 Colt OMT from '37 or '36, so I think I have rimfire DA revos covered. There is nothing better than those two in a DA. The end. (Well, shoot... Mebbe an OMS and make it a trio.)

What is the best -- accuracy and fit and finish -- 22 auto handgun ever? Not rarity. Had a K-22 2nd and sold it, so that's not what I am into, tho a K-22 2nd is a beaut. I'm lookin' for the absolute best semi auto, with best defined as fit and finish, accuracy, and, of course, reliability, tho, I s'pose, in a rimfire, I'd probably put reliability last outta those three. Not an SD weapon, to be sure. Anyhow...

1930s Colt Woodsman? That's what I am thinkin'.

I know that High Standards, Browning Buckmarks, and Ruger IFM ("I Forget the Model") fans are out there, so speak on up. And there is an S&W, right? An M41 or somesuch?

(I got that, "Dang! I need another gun" feelin'...)

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Old 11-16-2010, 08:14 AM
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What about a nice older S&W Model 41 with the cocking indicator? Plus there are a lot of factory extras that make the hunt that much more fun.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:55 AM
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The best 22 semi pistol? That would be the Target model of the Ruger Mk II. Either the 5 1/2 in barrel or the 6 7/8 in Gov't model.

While it isn't near the level of beauty, art, or craftsmanship of a Colt or S&W, it is the most accurate and most dependable Semi available.

Others come close, but the MkII is the top of the heap.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:03 AM
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I have always had a Ruger of some sort around. The one I have now is the SS MKII Government Model Target. It shoots like a rifle. The fit and finish is pretty good also. I have also had 2-3 Ruger Standard Models over the years that have served me well. I have also owned a High Standard and had access to, (through my brother), both a Browning Nomad and Buckmark. They were good guns and the fit and finish was a notch better than the Rugers. I like the Rugers because I have never had ANY trouble with them. No jams, or failures of any kind.
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It is on your list but pretty hard to improve on the Buckmark.
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I like the Buckmark over the Ruger but my next .22 pistol might be the CZ Kadet. It seems like everyone who has one has great things to say about them and you can buy a 9m/m or .40 conversion kit.
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Best for what?

For an all around .22 pistol, I like the Ruger MkII. It's accurate enough for bullseye competition (Most people seem to start out with one.), but durable enough to shoot high speed ammunition through without breaking anything. There are lots of third party accessories for them.

For a target pistol, at least at a semi-reasonable price, I prefer the High Standards. Since almost everybody uses dot sights now, the Victor is nice to have, but not strictly necessary. You could go with a Walther or a Hammerli, but you're going to pay a LOT more money.
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The Hämmerli 208s. Period. Yes, it's expensive.


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Old 11-16-2010, 09:45 AM
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Define "best". I am an old target shooter and while the 41 is an excellent gun, and the Ruger is hard to beat for price/build/performance, neither are the "best. There are a number of 22s built as Olympic class target guns. Built by Pardini, Feinwerkbau, Hammerli, etc they have features and hand-matched components and build that make them truly "the best".

Olympic rapid fire competition used to be based on the 22 short. I have a Pardini in the collection with a ported bbl, electronic trigger, and meticulously assembled at the factory that will put five match grade rounds into one hole at 25 meters in the blink of an eye. They have a current model 22LR with a specially weighted and reciprocating muzzle arrangement that puts Lapua match rounds down range in the same fashion.

They cost more than a 41 but perform better. Great? Cheap? Pick one. Dave
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:57 AM
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.22lr autos that I have owned are Ruger MKI Target, Ruger MKII with 10" barrel, S&W 622 and a Jennings. Currently I only have the Jennings, the others were all sold or traded off and I don't miss any of them, which means they aren't getting replaced, ever.

I'm not saying go out and buy a Jennings, it's just the only one of the group that serves it's purpose. I've been hoping to find a nice Buckmark or older High Standard target model, or better yet a .32 S&W Long match pistol and even a S&W 41, but my plans are on hold for now.
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:00 AM
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Ive had em all and Id go with the buckmark.
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:26 AM
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I have to agree with Dnovo and cmort, it depends on what you want it to be the "best" of. Accuracy? Fit & Finish? Aesthetics? Price? Dependability? General usability? Etc.,etc.......
Whatever you pick will excel in one or several of these categories but will be a compromise in others.

For pure accuracy( with the main emphasis on match competition), the Euro guns mentioned are the winners. (You don't see world class matches being won with M41's or Rugers.)

For fit and finish, the early M41's are hard to beat.

For price the Buckmarks, Trailblazers and Rugers are all great competition entry level and general plinking choices.

Aesthetics? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If all guns looked the same they would probably look like Glocks. (Which, IMHO, is a neuter.)
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:16 AM
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Best for the money is the Ruger MII, not the 1 or the 3.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:22 AM
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Beauty - Browning Medalist

Function - High Standard (all)

Best of Both - High Standard Victor
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:23 PM
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Accuracy +1 for Hammerli 208S , FWB AW93 pretty close 2nd
Fit / Finish +1 for Browning Medalist , pre war Colt Match Target

Affordable option IMHO would be a Hamden made no prefix s/n High Standard ( with good factory mags ) . High Standard only American pistol ever to set an Olympic record .
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:27 PM
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The Model 41 is certainly pretty and has a great reputation, even if somewhat finicky.

But I have 2 scoped Ruger MKII Government Competition models and they will outshoot most rifles at 50 yards. Win Dynapoints always turn in <1.5" groups at 50yds from even an improvised rest. From a decent rest with target grade ammo, they are phenomenal. Inexpensive, utterly reliable and super accurate, they are a deal that is hard to beat.
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For fit and finish, the Browning Medlist, for function and accuracy, the High Standard Victor (older Hamden gun). For best for the money in accuracy and dependability, the Russian built IZH35M.
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With my eyesight, a Beretta 70S is as accurate as anything else. Excellent fit and finish, adjustable sights, holds 9 rounds with the factory magazine or 10 rounds with an aftermarket magazine. With the target grips replaced with the earlier small flat sided grips, it is small enough to fit in a coat pocket.

By comparison, a Ruger feels like holding a 2x4. And the Beretta is much easier to strip and clean.


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The Browning Medalists are gorgeous--look them up on one of the auction sites and take a gander at one in the fitted case with all the accessories (barrel weights, forend, tools, mags, red velvet) The ones I've shot have been very accurate. Actually, maybe you shouldn't look them up--it's a drool inducing setup. Fit and finish are jewel like. I have some idea of your taste, and I think you would really like these.

If I wanted a target gun, it'd be one of those or the S&W 41. Terrific shooters and handsome guns. Both of these guns should have great triggers right out of the box. The 41s are nicely done up guns, but the Browning takes it on fit and finish.

'Course the High Standards are classics, too.

For a plinker the Browning Buckmark is nice. There are a lot of variations of these, I think some with an ugly polymer stock--the ones I've shot have been all metal and good shooters. I had a Ruger but could never warm up to it--especially when I took the thing apart.

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I've had a Ruger MKII 5.5" heavy barrel for some 18 years. Very good pistol. Built like a tank. But, it does not like CCI .22lr rounds. Will not chamber them. Have never taken the time to figure out why. When I get the time (and a few extra $$), I would like to mount a red dot site on the little bugger.
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My Plain 'ol Ruger Mark II is the most accurate pistol I have ever used. I can bang a 18' steel plate at 150 Yards without thinking about it.
It was also used on the Alfalfa ranch I worked at when I was younger to kill Rabbits. Kept it on the tractor with me and when I got near the fenclines (where Mr. Bunny liked to hang out) I would pop a cap in their little tails for good luck.
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Thanks, guys. Lot of good thoughts in here. Much appreciated. Now I'll go off and do some research.

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... best defined as fit and finish, accuracy, and, of course, reliability, tho, I s'pose, in a rimfire, I'd probably put reliability last outta those three....
I'd add, in that order, too: Fit and finish, accuracy, reliability. My theory being that any pistol with a terrific fit and finish is bound to be pretty darn accurate. There is the overall esthetic appeal as well, but that's awfully subjective.
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My favorite .22 semi-auto (and overall favorite gun) is my S&W Model 41. It is attractive, accurate, and just plain fun to shoot.

I've got a Colt Match Target, Ruger .22/45, Ruger Mark II with lots of Volquartsen parts, and a Beretta 21A Stainless Bobcat to choose from, but the 41 is my favorite.
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I vote for second series Woodsman - standard and Match Target.

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I probably shoot Ruger MK II's more than anything, primarily because I prefer shooting suppressed .22's. I have several Colt Woodsman's, Hi-Standards, S&W 41's, etc. I probably prefer my '62 vintage 5" Model 41 over all the others, though.
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An old original Hamden made High Standard Victor, or a Hammerli if you're really serious and can afford it.
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When I bought back in the mid 80's, all the Buckmarks and Woodsmen were gone, so I bought what I thought at the time was the best available - Ruger Mk II 5.5" Bull bbl.

I added a Clark Competition trigger and a BoMar adjustable rear sight, then I ramped the front sight and added a lime green insert - like a S&W.

Replaced the grips with ones that fit me well and the rest is history. This thing flat out shoots! Is it the finest fit and finish? Best styling? Probably not.

What it is, is mine - modified for my needs and a beauty in its own right. Everyone that shoots it falls in love. More popular than some of my other custom revolvers. Simple, elegant, accurate, dependable and it's a Mk II which is arguably the best of the series.

One day down the road, the Mk II will have a cache all its own and a high desirability factor like Buckmarks and Woodsmen.
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Without getting into the high dollar Olympic class guns, in my order of preference...
S&W model 41
High Standard (Victor, Olympic, or Supermatic)
Colt Woodsman/Woodsman MT
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Ruger will always be last on my list.
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With my eye sight and this Ruger Mk 3 Hunter and a TruGlow Red dot sight, Golf Balls are dancing at 25 yards.

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