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The Korth catalogue relates "POR" or price on request.
The Krieghoff catalogue doesn't mention money at all. You just tell "your people" to go get you one, and they do.
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VIDEO of a Korth Combat 3 inches
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Hello Swissman. Thanks for showing us your video. I have no experience with this revolver but I am sure it is a fine revolver. Even though it's not how I would spend that much money I wont criticize anyone who does. Lord knows I have spent some extravagant sums on guns I didn't really have to have. Whatever trips your trigger
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Rumor has it that they are re-badged Taurus', so are they worth the money? Of korths! and I'm not signing this one guys.
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First of all, you couldn't really say that a Korth is better than a Smith and Wesson, let's just say they are very 'different'.
I owned a Korth, with a few accessories and won many a pistol competition with it in UK PAA Police Championships at Bisley in England.
Was a bit of an odd ball in the line up as when people saw it, no one had any idea what it was, they'd never forget after they saw it shoot. The engineering on the gun is incredible and the double action is incredibly smooth and snappy. As you rotate the cylinder when pulling the trigger' even with earmuffs on you can feel the movement so you know exactly when the hammer will fall. The finish is amazing - well before making comment you would need to pick one up an you will see what I mean.
However, there is a draw back, which I could prove to anyone - the engineering is so precise, that if you were to fire say 18 - 24 rounds in quick succession, given quick reloads of course, the heat within the cylinder would expand the cylinder in the frame so that it actually wouldn't rotate, this was because the engineering is so fine ! You had to wait for it to cool down to continue or as in the case of a Korth, swap a cylinder. The cylinder rotates the opposite way to a Smith so don't get caught out.
In short, pick one up and get a feel of it and I think many an opinion in this thread would change. Since the complete ban on all handguns in the UK, my Korth is now probably part of some metal grid on the highway sad.
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You can buy a pile of S&W's or Pythons for the cost of the Korth, if accuracy is your thing look for a Dan Wesson, for a hell of a lot less$.
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All Korth revolvers are made from hardened tool steel. Their reliability/longetivity are legendary.
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I feel like I'm doing good
You can pay $250 grand for an Audemars Piquet watch. I don't have that kind of money to burn. Actually I don't have ANY kind of money to burn. I feel I'm doing pretty good just to have some S&Ws.
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Does Korth make anything in an I-frame?
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A very good friend of mine wears a Rolex.......even though I make ~2.5times his pay, I wear a Timex Ironman. Every time we go out for a beer, I'll ask him what time it is. When he gives me the time, I'll say, hmmm, same time on my watch
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I had a friend like you say the same thing to me for the same reasons.
Every time I noticed his cheap watch was replaced with a new one because the old one broke, I'd ask him if he had a new watch - again.
You get what you pay for. In the beginning there is price, in the end there is cost.
Korth is a fine revolver, but unless you can appreciate it for its craftsmanship, it's just another revolver.
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You know?...I figure the real test of any revolver is how well they hold up in 20-30 years service carry and issue use.
Collecting leo and guv surplus handguns has shown me that most guns survive extreme use pretty good...but some survive better than others.
I would imagine a Korth would hold up well
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I like guns that I can wear on my hip. I saw a Korth at a gun show once and it was a beauty. I've read some good things about them too. But if I bought one I'd have to keep my hip locked up in my safe with the Korth. So, a Model 10-5 snubbie it is.
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I know the message I get when I see a guy wearing one.
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OK I give what does it say to you? maybe it was a gift for being number one at something, perhaps tops in medical class?
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First of all, you couldn't really say that a Korth is better than a Smith and Wesson, let's just say they are very 'different'.
I owned a Korth, with a few accessories and won many a pistol competition with it in UK PAA Police Championships at Bisley in England.
Was a bit of an odd ball in the line up as when people saw it, no one had any idea what it was, they'd never forget after they saw it shoot. The engineering on the gun is incredible and the double action is incredibly smooth and snappy. As you rotate the cylinder when pulling the trigger' even with earmuffs on you can feel the movement so you know exactly when the hammer will fall. The finish is amazing - well before making comment you would need to pick one up an you will see what I mean.
However, there is a draw back, which I could prove to anyone - the engineering is so precise, that if you were to fire say 18 - 24 rounds in quick succession, given quick reloads of course, the heat within the cylinder would expand the cylinder in the frame so that it actually wouldn't rotate, this was because the engineering is so fine ! You had to wait for it to cool down to continue or as in the case of a Korth, swap a cylinder. The cylinder rotates the opposite way to a Smith so don't get caught out.
In short, pick one up and get a feel of it and I think many an opinion in this thread would change. Since the complete ban on all handguns in the UK, my Korth is now probably part of some metal grid on the highway sad.
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Did you have to surrender gun to any one in particular and was there any way to gift/sell it outside UK. Did gov. provide any compensation?
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A very good friend of mine wears a Rolex.......even though I make ~2.5times his pay, I wear a Timex Ironman. Every time we go out for a beer, I'll ask him what time it is. When he gives me the time, I'll say, hmmm, same time on my watch
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Serious now- following that logic how much does a fella need to make more than you, 20x as much to be ok with you or is it another issue all together? Sometimes its not just a tool but a work of art made with much care by talented artists who also need to make a living.
I was just reading another post about a guy..."Every time we go out for a beer, he will ask him what time it is, and I think hmmm, he makes 2.5x my pay, should get a real watch and wont have to ask"
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Everything I've read or heard about Korths say that they are not really all that accurate. Much like a Rolex is just not as accurate a timepiece as a Timex or Seiko.
I'll keep my Python , and Wenger watch.
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As to the precision of the Korth revolvers: In respected German Gun magazines and books the precision of a Korth 357 is measured at 25 meter (27 yards) in 5 shot as better than 23 mm (0,9 inch) and other Ransom Rest tests at 25 meter 6 shot at 15 mm ( 0,59 inch) and 12 mm ( 0,47 inch ). That is pretty good by any standards.
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Many of us keep 1/2/3 thousand dollar S&W's or Colt SAA's in padded cases and in fireproof safes and when we do take them out , handle them with cotton gloves. Heaven forbid even thinking about shooting them lest we devalue them!
How do ya treat a gun like a Korth?
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sticker shock alert! i guess ill have to make do with my second rate smith & wessons
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Is a Korth worth it? Probably not.....but they're a lot of fun to shoot! I can appreciate the utter precision of the entire thing; however trigger pull is subjective. I cannot say the Korth is any smoother than a good S&W or Colt. I still think the coolest gun to cock the hammer on is the older Colt action (Python/357/OMM) but admit it is entirely subjective. I'm sure that, in a rest, the Korth is phenomenally accurate but off hand they all shoot well for me!
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Kind of like a broomhandle Red 9. Shoot it and enjoy. You only go around once. Like SIG P-210's. Shoot'em!!
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For my money, a Korth isn't worth the cost.
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I agree. But, to the people who buy them it's like the price difference between a Chevy and a Rolls. What difference?
Oops, I almost forgot to mention, I have a precision made German revolver. It's a R.G. Spendy? Well yes. But it works so smoothly* I think it's worth the $10 I paid!
*The one time I dared to carefully function check it.
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It's not the extra gun for the money thing with a Korth.
They are just plain over priced.
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Yikes! Now I know why I've never heard of them.
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A very good friend of mine wears a Rolex.......even though I make ~2.5times his pay, I wear a Timex Ironman. Every time we go out for a beer, I'll ask him what time it is. When he gives me the time, I'll say, hmmm, same time on my watch
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You DO NOT buy a Rolex just to see the time! For that job you could save your money and buy an Apple Watch!
You buy a Rolex partly as an investment. Partly to own one of the finest craftsmanship that you can buy, it's a legacy you are buying into! You people doesn't get it!
Same thing with a Korth or a Manurhin. Those revolvers where made esp. for the 'upper class'.
Sure, they get the 'job done', but just look at the finish! Look at the detail that went into these beautiful pieces! They may or may not be better in accuracy, who am I to question those parameters? Esp. if you look at the revolvers. When it comes to watches all I know is that my Apple Watch is dead on time.
Weather my Smith & Wesson or my Korth is shooting the better, I can't say. I'm not that good at shooting them. But I do appreciate the build quality of both my Korth and my Rolex (that I'm almost afraid to wear, there are bad guys out there)!
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Over the years, I've owned both a Manurhin 73 and a 3" Korth .357. I just had this itch that needed scratching so I bought them. They were "shooters", so I enjoyed them on the range for a couple years. Then, since that urge was satisfied, I sold them and about broke even. My opinion ? Great revolvers, but no better, at 3 times the price, as good American made Python or S&W Model 15 or 19
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Funny, I've spent my entire life as a firearms instructor firing on a bazillion public and police ranges with a like number of gun toters and I've yet to see a Korth revolver in the flesh.
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Yes and no.... I own a Korth and a Manurhin. High quality euro revolvers are nice. They are both Python smooth. The Korth is ruger Blackhawk robust. People are paying $3000.00 for pythons so I guess a Korth might be worth it.
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Honestly if you are looking for a euro 357 get a Manurhin in my opinion they are excellent and less than a grand
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A very good friend of mine wears a Rolex.......even though I make ~2.5times his pay, I wear a Timex Ironman. Every time we go out for a beer, I'll ask him what time it is. When he gives me the time, I'll say, hmmm, same time on my watch
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A guy I know was flashing around his new watch... I said "Where did you get that fake Rolex?". He said.."Can you tell it's fake looking at it?". I said.."No, I can tell it's fake looking at you."
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Honestly if you are looking for a euro 357 get a Manurhin in my opinion they are excellent and less than a grand
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Unless you're getting a well used and rough surplus MR73 with a nasty import stamp, you aren't touching one for that price.
The commercial models are nearly as expensive as a Korth. Its my favorite revolver.
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Mine is a surplus gun but it's a solid 90% I paid $450.00 at acme pawn in Colorado Springs.
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I don't think a Korth is worth the premium price. I'd rather have a S&W Model 27 or a USFA Single Action. By the way, I don't own a Rolex. I own a Montblanc; German design and quality. I see a lot of Rolex watches, but I don't see anyone else with a Montblanc. I guess some people own a Korth for the same reason I own a Montblanc.
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Mine is a surplus gun but it's a solid 90% I paid $450.00 at acme pawn in Colorado Springs.
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On Gunbroker, surplus examples in that condition have brought nearly $2000. You got a nice deal.
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I don't think a Korth is worth the premium price. I'd rather have a S&W Model 27 or a USFA Single Action. By the way, I don't own a Rolex. I own a Montblanc; German design and quality. I see a lot of Rolex watches, but I don't see anyone else with a Montblanc. I guess some people own a Korth for the same reason I own a Montblanc.
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Have you ever shot one or handled one? I wonder how many people saying they aren't worth it have...
I've got USFA single actions and M27s. I even have an original Registered Magnum. None of those are Korths
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Unless you're getting a well used and rough surplus MR73 with a nasty import stamp, you aren't touching one for that price.
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I found that the nasty import mark has not affected accuracy or fit any any way, yet saved me $1500 over a new one.
I just wish I had acted faster when I had the chance and bought a surplus 3" as well as the 4", which is all they had left.
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Nighthawk has custom Korth revolvers. Spendy but interesting:
Korth & Nighthawk Revolvers
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You DO NOT buy a Rolex just to see the time! For that job you could save your money and buy an Apple Watch!
You buy a Rolex partly as an investment. Partly to own one of the finest craftsmanship that you can buy, it's a legacy you are buying into! You people doesn't get it!
Same thing with a Korth or a Manurhin. Those revolvers where made esp. for the 'upper class'.
Sure, they get the 'job done', but just look at the finish! Look at the detail that went into these beautiful pieces! They may or may not be better in accuracy, who am I to question those parameters? Esp. if you look at the revolvers. When it comes to watches all I know is that my Apple Watch is dead on time.
Weather my Smith & Wesson or my Korth is shooting the better, I can't say. I'm not that good at shooting them. But I do appreciate the build quality of both my Korth and my Rolex (that I'm almost afraid to wear, there are bad guys out there)!
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If you think that Rolex is the pinnacle of horological engineering, you are kidding yourself or haven't looked at pieces from Patek or even high grade Walthams(American). The basic 3135 they use now is a fine movement with good engineering and great finish, but at the end of the day it's just a good, sturdy movement. Rolex has largely, IMO, marketed themselves above what they are.
BTW, I wear a ref. 16013 every single day. The 3035 movement in it hovers between 0s/day and +2s/day. BTW, I'll also add that I rarely have anyone ask about it or comment on it...about the only time it happens is when I'm at a watch show and get "What are you asking for your DateJust?" BTW, mine was a graduation gift from my parents, and isn't going anywhere.
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Several years ago the local Gander Mountain had a 38 Korth in the display case. I had never heard of them. I remember it was a nice looking gun, sort of about like any 38 revolver. I didn't know enough about such things to know if it was any better or not.
They were asking $999.00 for it. I sort of wish I had bought it, just for grins and giggles of it. At the time a grand for a gun was pretty much unthinkable. Not so much so anymore.
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$2-5K new custom revolvers with $10 Hogue rubber grips? That's...interesting.
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09-04-2016, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee's Landing Billy
A guy I know was flashing around his new watch... I said "Where did you get that fake Rolex?". He said.."Can you tell it's fake looking at it?". I said.."No, I can tell it's fake looking at you."
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Sounds like a George Thorogood line!
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09-04-2016, 12:42 AM
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How posters here can make statements and comparisons on a gun that they have mostly never seen is absolutely beyond me!
While everybody is entitled to an opinion, nobody is entitled to make up his own facts and compare a Korth to a Dan Wesson, Colt, or S&W without ever having handled a Korth.
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09-04-2016, 02:52 AM
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Willi Korth is now passed on. The Korths of the 1980s (the best in my personal opinion), are a limited commodity.
The "price" isn't the "price", (in the conventional sense of a mass produced product). The "value" is the "price".
There is a willing market for a Korth for good reasons, some related to the workings of a free market, some to quality without compromise, some to performance, etc.
Since there have been a few analogies to other items of high value, I'd like to respectfully add one of my own, namely to a fine violin by Stradivari, Amati, or Guarneri. A million bucks won't even get you in the front door of that market. Yet, to a world class musician, such an instrument is priceless. To the guy gigging with the local or regional orchestra, not so much.
No disrespect intended, but, by the same token, there are discerning owners & competitive shooters who can not only appreciate the very real quality of Willi Korth's masterpiece, but can measurably demonstrate it. (More than one world class competitor shooting revolver in ISSF World Cup Centerfire Pistol event comes to mind...)
So, I have to agree with Andyd:
"How posters here can make statements and comparisons on a gun that they have mostly never seen is absolutely beyond me!
While everybody is entitled to an opinion, nobody is entitled to make up his own facts and compare a Korth to a Dan Wesson, Colt, or S&W without ever having handled a Korth."
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09-04-2016, 05:08 AM
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Thank you 6string.
I find it disturbing that on this very forum here there is judgement passed without having any facts for a verdict.
Of course, my S&W M14-2 and 1952 vintage K-22 are also excellent shooters and their performance is extremely hard to beat by any gun. The quality, however, is day and night and so is their longevity when compared first hand to a Korth by a distinguishing shooter.
After all, a mobile home is also offering a roof over the head and shelter just as much as a nicer and unnecessarily more expensive home.
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