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Anyone have one? Got pics? Wanted one ever since Eastwood packed one.
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I saw 2 for sale once - one was .357mag and I forget the other's caliber.

I'd love to own one also. Would be a hoot at the range!
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I don't have one of the original Auto Mags but I did just buy an AMT Automag V in .50 Action Express. It looks like a 1911 on 'roids and the cartridge is about twice the size of a .45ACP. I haven't even had a chance to take pics or shoot it yet, but I did order some ammo - Hornady XTP 300gr JHP - 1475fps @ the muzzle!!! Yeeeow!!
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What a disappointment Mike! I was thinking you had some pictures of yours!!

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Okay, since no .44 Auto Mags have shown up here's some pics of my .50.
It's NIB with all of the paperwork, etc, number 409 of an intended run of 3000 though I've read only around 2000 were actually built in 1993-94. Soon as the weather allows I'm going to put some rounds through it.




Here it is with my SW1911 9mm Pro to give some perspective on it's size-


And here's a 300gr .50 Action Express cartridge posing with a 230gr .45ACP-
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Back in my youth there was a gun store in Oxford, MS that had one of these for the mear price of $700. In the mid 70s this was a mint to a young man throwing papers for a living. I've always had an admiration for these pistols, about 15 years ago I went on the hunt for one but never found one I actually wanted to spend money on. There is a store in Athens, GA (Franklins) that had a pair of them the last time I was in there on consignment. They wanted about a grand more than I was willing to pay for one.

It's an interesting pistol, stories of parts breakage keep me from buying one. I'm sure that some of this comes from handloaders tring to fit 30-06 powder levels not realizing they trimmed the case to make it fit in the Automag.

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I held one once in the '80s but did not fire it, very muzzle heavy. Talked to an owner several years ago who told me that: recoil was vicious, muzzle blast horrendous, and not really accurate.

My M29 / 629 has all I need for power. If you really want thump, use a 45-70 rifle. My Taylor Arms Quigley is fun to shoot without the pain and suffering.
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But now long gone... was a 6" TDE .44 with a 10" (as I recall) extra barrel in a fitted case.

Shot about half of the Jurras Assoc. ammo that came with the gun in the trade. Was less than impressed. Was the most expensive magazine fed single shot I've ever seen. I moved it along at a modest profit.
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I have a cousin who was a high roller back in the '70's and early '80's and also an avid shooter and hunter.

Immediately after seeing the one Dirty Harry flick with the Automag in it, he ordered one directly from the manufacturer. When it arrived, he noticed the serial number was 3 (I believe) zeroes and the number 1.

He contacted them and told him what they had sent him, thinking they might want to hold on to that one. Their response was along the lines of, "What, is there something wrong with it?" When my cousin told them it was perfectly fine, their response to him was, "Then enjoy."

The gun is long gone (stolen) but he still has 4 boxes of .44 Automag ammo.

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As for the Automag, how does it compare to the Desert Eagle 50AE? I shot one years ago when they first came out and it was a cannon.
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Friend of mine has the 30 Carbine version. Big, heavy but fun to shoot. It's a fire breathing dragon.
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What's a good price on one? I saw one for 2000.00 and thought is was high.
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Sorry I don't have any pics that I can post. I have had two Pasadena Auto Mags. The first one I bought from Harry Sanford at his Pasadena gun shop for $220. I shot it quite a bit and sold it after a few years for a 600% profit.
The other one was one of the factory engraved ones that I picked up for $700. I sold it for a nice profit as well.
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have owned and shot several over the years.moved them some years ago when parts got hard to get and very expensive. my favorite was 357 automag with an 81/2 in bbl. as far as i know, they all still exist in central iowa. simpson ltd. has a bunch of the rarest,nib. guns that i have ever seen. they came from switzerland from and old collector that bought them new and only shot one of about a dozen. had tons of ammo, mags, spare parts, and grips. you need the grips because with the original plastic ones, they would split after 2-500 rounds. with my first one i had to make brass. what a pita. later, norma offered new brass and was great. they were a real handful to shoot in 44 cal.
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Not to derail the thread, but what's the trigger reach like? I have midget fingers, and the 1911 comparison pic makes it look like I might have to pack a lunch to get all the way up to the trigger.
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Not to derail the thread, but what's the trigger reach like? I have midget fingers, and the 1911 comparison pic makes it look like I might have to pack a lunch to get all the way up to the trigger.
It's a stretch, if you have trouble with a 1911 it may not work for you.

Keep in mind that my gun is an AMT Automag, the originals were called Auto Mags and had a much different look to them. I've never had the opportunity to handle or shoot on of the originals.




Oh yeah, Merry Christmas everyone!!!!! It's a beautiful, sunny day here and after we get through all of the celebratory visits this afternoon I'll take mine out and put a few rounds through it. I'll have my wife take some pics, maybe we can get some of it in full recoil.
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Badly worded on my part. There's not a gun that fits my hand better than a short-triggered 1911.
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Here you go. This is an early Pasadena version.
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Fine specimen. Even came with a Saturn V!!

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Ya know........that's one gun that I just never had any desire to own.
But whatever........................if it floats yer boat than go for it
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I didn't know they made the Automag in "Saturn V." Talk about pricey ammo!
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The first time I saw an Automag was on the cover of "The Executioner" book series my grandfather used to read in the '70's.

Here's a sample I found. Unfortunately, the size doesn't show the Automag too well, but here you go.

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I owned a 44 auto mag 6 in bbl and a 357 10 in bbl conv bbl. Traded them

on my MI Thompson SMG


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The first time I saw an Automag was on the cover of "The Executioner" book series my grandfather used to read in the '70's.

Here's a sample I found. Unfortunately, the size doesn't show the Automag too well, but here you go.

OMG.. I'm old enough to be his Grandfather.. AND I bought the book new!!
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The pictured book was a reprint of Mack Bolan adventure number one, not the original. The original came out circa 1968 or so. I used to have a copy. I had tons of them, and loved reading them, back in the 1980s. Had an original copy of the first one that I found used.

I think the Automag came along later in the series. At first it was a .460 Weatherby and a .444 Marlin Lever gun and I forget what kind of handgun Bolan had. He did use an Automag in the series for a long time though.
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I have had a few of them, still have my favorite one with several barrels in both .44 am and .357 am. Here are a few pics. I also bought a used barrel and cut it down to 4 inches like the very rare Jurras Backpacker model, they only made five of them.I also engraved the skull and flames on this short barrel after I polished it out. They are really alot of fun to shoot. Check em out....I also have a large collection of memorabilia for these, holsters, etc...
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Our local gun shop has one on consignment. It come with a .45 Win Mag barrel and a .44 Auto Mag barrel plus dies, brass, ammo and more. I thing the owner is asking $3500 for everything.

Don't know if it is a good deal or not but the cool factor is certainly there.
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Found a copy of this picture published in the Auto Mag Newsletter in 1973. Thought you might like to see what I looked like at age 16. Graves Gladney was my uncle. Kent Lomont, JD Jones, and Buz Chamblee have been friends for almost 40 years. Phil Forbing is Kent's cousin. Dan Yaich I ran into at the SHOT Show a few years back. Mike Barach I haven't seen since that weekend. Photo was shot by another longtime friend, Lee Jurras, at his old Super Vel facility. Lee said he believed I was the youngest Auto Mag owner and shooter in the country at that time.




And then, horror of horrors, I found this:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...kodiak-44-amp/
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Back in the early '70s, a college buddy of mine ordered one out of Shotgun News for $268, IIRC. He made his ammo out of .7.62 NATO blanks.

We went down to his family's farm and shot it some. I managed to hit a snapping turtle at about 75 yards, shooting offhand.

The pistol was very accurate, but kept losing the rear sight. Lee Jurras sent him a couple.
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Photo was shot by another longtime friend, Lee Jurras, at his old Super Vel facility.
I got into the Automag game late. I didn't buy one until 1977 after I had been in the Army a couple of years. I read one of my friend's "Executioner" books and then read a gun magazine article about them. They had a used one in a gun store in Savannah and I picked it up with the dies for $700. I remember back in those days, Super Vel was considered the cat's meow. Now I've been back into shooting for a couple of years, after about a 15 year hiatus and now that my kids got old enough to enjoy shooting, I think it's time to bring it back out again.
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I had a 44 with I think was 6/6.5" bbl and a 357 10" bbl. Alot of fun.
Traded them on a M1 Thompson FS.
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I have been following that Kodiak 44AMP for a while. I don't see them doing much though. I believe they will follow in the tradition of all of the other AMP manufacturers before long.
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Yet another gun I wish could be brought back with some justice done to it and not watered down. That and the LAR Grizzly in .45 Win Mag.
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I ran across some photos of my factory engraved Auto Mag. I will attempt to post them.


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In 1973 or ’74 my Army buddy at Ft Eustis, VA sold his M28 Highway Patrolman to me so he could buy a .44 Auto Mag. I was shooting for the battalion pistol team at the time and he lent me that new pistol so I could try it out.

There I was, standing on the firing line with this stainless steel brute in my hand. God, those rounds looked huge as I loaded them into the magazine. Inserting the magazine, chambering the first round, I prepared myself for what was assuredly going to be the most ferocious recoil I had ever experienced.

As I tightened my two handed grip on the pistol, bending my knees a bit more and leaning a little harder and further forward in anticipation of the recoil, I pressed the trigger; BOOM she went, and I plowed up a couple of feet of earth in front of the 25 yard target! I had over compensated for the recoil and pulled the shot about three feet low. Darn it! This thing didn’t kick much more than my 1911A1!

After that shot I assumed my one-handed target shooting stance and shot the remaining rounds at the bull’s eye. It shot fairly well; at least as well as my 1911A1 – maybe better.

And that was my one and only experience shooting a .44 Auto Mag.

The follow up story on my buddy is kind of sad. You see, though he bought that pistol legally in Virginia (active duty, on a permanent change of station assignment, he qualified as a “resident”) he was actually a resident of Brooklyn, NY. Upon his discharge he returned to Brooklyn and applied for a pistol permit; which was denied. To the best of my knowledge (I visited him in ’76) that pistol remained in its original box safely hidden in his basement – he was unable to ever openly admit that he was in possession of that “evil” device. I hope and pray that he never got into any trouble over it – he was a really decent person, and a friend.

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I read once that they had to hire a diver to help "finish" that scene where Eastwood uses his Automag. Apparently, the story was that after it would fail to operate properly Clint would fling it into the ocean. So, so "the show could go on", they had to go find it. Maybe true, maybe not. If it were ME, I'd try to control myself enough to not chuck it out of easy retrieval. Gotta figure a quick worker like Clint would think the same. Just something I read awhile ago.
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They still sell new Mack Bolan books today.
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I just found 442 new Starline 44 automag cases buried deep in my loading room is anybody interested? Starline wants $177.00 for 500 and I would trade for 45-70 or 38-55 brass. My phone is 530-409-2441 or PM me.... Jim
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