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Old 01-07-2011, 08:04 PM
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I have two fireplaces, in addition to central heat in the house. I like an open fire and will go through 2-3 cords of wood during a decent winter.

This year, I may forego the fires in the fireplaces. Been checking prices for split oak wood delivered. Going for right at $300 per cord. I can pay for a lot of electrical heat for that type money.

Add to the mix, we have a winter storm watch for this weekend with maybe a 2-4 inch accumulation of wintery mix.
I get cold at 60 degrees. It is not natural to have this type weather.

How much is split firewood going for in your area?
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Paid $180/cord here for mixed hardwood. Too bad we haven't had much of a winter to speak of, though we have some subzero temps coming next week.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:16 PM
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About the same here in Atlanta $175.00 for half $300.00 for full cord...I got a 1/2 cord delivered last year that he said was seasoned oak but it still had sap in it and you couldnt get it to start burning with a blow torch......Look into a wood stove insert if you like a fire as they provide much more heat and don't use up near as much wood...
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About the same here in Atlanta $175.00 for half $300.00 for full cord...I got a 1/2 cord delivered last year that he said was seasoned oak but it still had sap in it and you couldnt get it to start burning with a blow torch......Look into a wood stove insert if you like a fire as they provide much more heat and don't use up near as much wood...
+1 for the wood insert. Offers much more heat into the house than an open fireplace and mine burns around 70% efficient. Uses much less wood and doesn't suck the heat out of the house and no need to leave a window cracked as with an open fireplace.

Just ordered a cord of mixed hardwood, delivered and stacked, two weeks ago and it cost me $295.
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in my former situation we'd get a semi load of mixed hardwood right around 500.
its a lot of wood and you have to put your back into it. This may be impracticable in your situation if your too populated for neighbors to put up with a chain saw and log splitter in extended sessions.
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I paid $125 a cord, split, delivered and stacked, for a mix of red oak and post oak a few weeks ago. I'm also burning some wood from downed trees on my property that were blown down back in the spring.

I used to have a good stand of elm trees, but disease has killed them off a few at a time the past 15 years or so and I've been burning wood from them. Got two more left and one of them is showing signs of disease so I'm cutting it down this winter. Elm makes a good fire, but burns to ash without any coals.
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A few weeks back I paid $160 for 2 ricks (a cord). Its mixed, but even has a fair amount of Walnut. I started a thread on that last month. While we were stacking it (the guy said he'd stack it, but its my woodpile and I did my fair share.) So we separated the walnut out into a pile (unstacked). I then moved it up to the porch (dryer and closer.) I've split some into "sticks" and use it to excite the fire for quick heat. It doesn't burn long, but it sure is hot.

Also in the stack is some pink wood. I think its red oak, and its not real dry. I'm guessing I need to spend some time the next sunny day tearing into the pile and separating it out into a "not to burn pile". It'll be OK next year. There's other wood, too. Some locust, and its dry. The seller said I have some cherry, but I don't see it.

I've still got some hackberry. Trash wood if there ever was, but its over a year old and its tinder dry. Except for the off smell, it burns real well. I got that from a buddy. He sold some to my son for about $150 a cord.

Guess the number of down trees we got from hurricane Ike a while back is a factor. The woodcutters have a field day with already down trees. Someone pays them to remove them, then they dump the slash and sell the rounds to double their take.

In the past I was healthy enough to cut my own. Maybe I'll get back to that point. My son has a few huge ash trees right behind his property. Its on city or county land, but they won't cut them to keep them off his fence. His approach is cutting them for the city is a favor. If they complain, he'll file a claim against them for not protecting his property.

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I paid $125 a cord, split, delivered and stacked, for a mix of red oak and post oak a few weeks ago. I'm also burning some wood from downed trees on my property that were blown down back in the spring.

I used to have a good stand of elm trees, but disease has killed them off a few at a time the past 15 years or so and I've been burning wood from them. Got two more left and one of them is showing signs of disease so I'm cutting it down this winter. Elm makes a good fire, but burns to ash without any coals.
Wish I could get some for that price. I have a small farm about 125 miles south of here. Maybe 500 trees on it, 499 of them are pine. One oak and I hate to cut it down.
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$150 a cord, split, delivered, and stacked, and 100% locust.


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Around here, $150 a cord delivered is the going price. I shut my propane-fired boiler off and just use my wood stove during the winter. It basically costs me $450 to heat my log home every winter.

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Hey, All,

WOW!! You all surely have inexpensive oak firewood where you live! I try to harvest my own, for which you can get a permit for only $20. But, up in the CA mountains, some folks have been known to charge as much as $400-$600 for a cord of nice oak!! That's WAY too much money for me, and most others, too. But, in some of the ski areas, quite a few folks have more money than sense, and they will pay the tariff, no matter how high it is!! I got my last two cords of oak from an unemployed contractor, whose parents had a fire come through and kill off a bunch of their oak trees, a few years ago. We've been burning that oak for about three years, now, and still have quite a bit left! Better to harvest your own, if you can, or shop for the best price, up here. You guys are getting it for a steal, me thinks!! Take care, and God Bless!

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I'm the guy that supplies the wood!!! My place has about 8 acres of Black Locust trees- talk about hard - and after they have been dead for a year or so a few gents drop by and cut them up (many chain saw blade sharpening's later) and haul them away. I get rid of my dead and fallen trees and they get free firewood.

One lady told me she loads her stove in the morning before leaving for work and still has fire when she come home that evening.
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My nephew is selling a long bed dodge desiel truck load of locust stacked for $100. He likes to bust it with a go devil. I just bought a log truck load of locust for $500. My wife split it with the hydrolic splitter and I tried to bust with the go devil, man that was awful. Locust isn't that hard to bust the dry stuff. Got a load last year of hard wood and it was like trying to set a cucumber on fire. Doeboy
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My nephew is selling a long bed dodge desiel truck load of locust stacked for $100. He likes to bust it with a go devil. I just bought a log truck load of locust for $500. My wife split it with the hydrolic splitter and I tried to bust with the go devil, man that was awful. Locust isn't that hard to bust the dry stuff. Got a load last year of hard wood and it was like trying to set a cucumber on fire. Doeboy
I will take a couple of loads for $100 each. That truck ought to hold a half cord. I figure it will take a long days drive to get here so I think he should pull a trailer load to make a few more dollars out of it.
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$10 for the State Wood Harvest Permit and a couple of hours of hard work. You can take anything laying or dead standing.
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I have an old Fischer wood stove in the walkout basement. Burns slow, and puts out a tremendous amount of heat. It and a couple of strategically placed box fans keep my 3000sq ft home in the low 70s all winter. The central heat only gets turned on when we are out of town. All it costs me is alot of sweat. Oh and last winter I was tossing wood into my pickup and threw a piece right through the back glass. That was an expensive truck load of wood.
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It goes for around $40 per rick here. I assume that is about 1/3 a cord? Anyway, it costs me some chainsaw gas, bar oil, and a little effort.
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How much is split firewood going for in your area?
Have about 45 acres of mature hardwood so there's way more fallen trees than I need for the wood stove. Each year I take 6-8 pick-up loads in to town and give to my friends. Two years ago a large 32" trunk cherry tree tipped over. That tree alone would last us a few years. It is a boundary tree which means it could have had nails put in over the years, otherwise it'd be worth good money as lumber. So I'll start cutting and splitting it this spring.

So to answer your question, it's free. Well except the Stihl saw and chains to keep sharp, $1,000 wood splitter, $4,000 hospital bill to amputate the wife's finger after she caught it in the splitter, $7,000 Kawasaki Mule to haul the wood,....
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The common unit of measurement here in Central New York is the "face cord". 4'x8'x the length of cut...which is usually around 16".

Problem is...there's really no way to accurately measure this. I'm sure it's not stacked by face cord before being sold...rather loaded into the back of the dump-truck, pre-delivery, with a front-end loader, from a huge pile on their wood lot.

Most of the sellers simply dump it where you show them (typically the driveway), then the work begins. Whether or not you "got what you paid for" depends how YOU stack it. If you're short and call and complain about it, good sellers will "make it right", in my experience.

I'm burning stuff I bought last year. I think I paid $55.00/face cord delivered, but in truck-loads of five face cords. Single face-cords are priced higher. We normally see mixes of hard maple, ash, some cherry. Less common is oak, apple, ironwood. Not sure what the going rate is right now. Seasoned wood (if you can find it, unlikely right now, costs more than "green" wood). Some sellers cut logs that have been down for about a year and call that "seasoned"...it's not.

Have never heard of a "rick" around here. Learn something new every day.

We use wood for heat....Lopi wood-stove insert, with optional blower, in a standard brick fireplace.

I fell asleep in front of the fire last night.
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$125 face cord of seasoned oak, delivered, stacked.

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$125 face cord of seasoned oak, delivere, stacked.

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Usually 50 to 65 for a face cord around here (northwestern PA) - that's split and delivered. We can cut on the national forest, too. I think the permit cost about 20 dollars, but there is a limit to how much one can take in a season.
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I still cut and split my own here in east TN. I believe it is going for around$180 a cord delivered here and I am tempted to buy some for next year. I installed a wood burning stove this year, thank you all for helping me pay for it.......tax credits, you know. I got tired of having all my heat go up the chimney through the big stone fireplace. And the dear wife always wanted a fire burning.
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It is a boundary tree which means it could have had nails put in over the years, otherwise it'd be worth good money as lumber. So I'll start cutting and splitting it this spring.
Nails only occur naturally in the bottom few feet of the tree. If its that big around, You can just cut off the first 5 feet and they can saw the next however many feet to the branches. Cutting that bottom part can be interesting.

I used to do a lot of cutting in a reclaimed gravel pit. We had both sanded wood and nails (we turned it into a campground, the scourge of chain saws.) What I did was invest in Tungsten Carbide chains. I had a couple. From time to time I'd lose a few too many cutters and semi retire the chain. But about the 3rd chain (over maybe 15 years) got me thinking. So I took the bones and worldly remains to my buddy Bubba. He's my chain saw and small engine repair guy. I asked him what I can do, so he took mercy. He just went wild with chain breaker and created a brand new chain out of them.

Carbide chain isn't as fast in wood as a new, sharp chain, but it doesn't dull when it runs in sanded wood (sand embedded) or when it hits a nail or two. Eventually pebbles and nails will kill it. The trick is to swap out the chain and only use it when you suspect bad things are ahead.

My least favorite thing is ceramic insulators. The seem to occur along fence lines (not just boundary's.) As the tree grows it swallows the insulator, the nail that held it, and often the wire itself.
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The fireplace insert or wood stove is also a good idea. We have a Lopi freestanding stove - creates a lot of heat for the amount of wood we use. Glass front lets us see the fire - and the blower really helps put out the heat.
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A rick is a unit of measure. Supposedly its half a cord. Usually its what you guys are calling a face cord. The guy I bought from last month uses the term, and its what I called it. Maybe its a language barrier!

I have different views of seasoned than some. If it burns well, I consider it seasoned. Dead an down trees can burn really well right after they're cut and split. Cutting isn't the expensive part, splitting can be. So can hauling.

The walnut I got burns fast and really hot. Since there is little bark on the splits and its not tightly attached, I conclude its been dead a good long time. Just sawed and split recently.

Youngest son has 2 huge dead ash trees behind is house. I wish there was a road down to them, or I could get the jeep down there. As it is, I'll have to carry them, my son will, or we'll have to rent a mule! My wife would get really mad if I beat it like one.
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A full cord measures 4 feet high by 4 feet wide by eight feet long (4' x 4' x 8') and has a volume of 128 cubic feet.

A face cord is 4 foot high, 8 foot long, but the width is only the cut length of the wood. Typically 16".

Unless your firewood comes in 2' long pieces, sounds like a rick isn't the same as a face cord.
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Sorry about your wife's finger RIDEWV, Splitters can do a lot of damage to a hand very quickly. Oak and madrone goes for $150 to $185 here in Southern Oregon. You can get a whole logtruck load for $800-900 (8-10 cords) but it is a lot of work to cut and split it. I didn't realize that some of the trees would be 2ft+ in diameter. Helps to have a Bobcat too.
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Mixed face cord around here is $65, most of it looks green to me.
I cut my own on my property, and dead falls off both neighbors property.
Costs me gas and once in a while a new chain. Being retired, it also helps keep me busy and in shape.
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Language barrier indeed! The 4x8 "face cord" is what is called a "rick" in my neck of the woods. This is the first time I've heard the term "face cord".
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My area calls a cord 4x4x8, with a rick being (usually) 4x8x16" or whatever the length is of the cut wood. Usually it takes 3 ricks here to make a cord.

Best price I found on delivered oak last fall was $225 with fir $180.

Douglas fir (old growth--nearly impossible to find of late) is a true gift of God.....far better heat and most joyful to split than any other species.

Common here too is red alder, occasionally various 'ash' and maple.

I'm too far north to get much madrone and too far west to get any easy juniper cords.

I've run into what they call 'piss pine' a few times...with good cause, as the odor is unmistakable.

Second growth fir gives heat but not much esthetics. Spruce, hemlock and pine is also without much merit IMHO.

There's a sprinkling of other species but not widely available. I do like locust, cherry, apple but don't come across it often.

Walnut is rare hereabouts but can be had if one is resolute and willing to expend the time & funds to get it.

Saw an add last week for "log truck load 5-6 cords oak uncut delivered $400".
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I will take a couple of loads for $100 each. That truck ought to hold a half cord. I figure it will take a long days drive to get here so I think he should pull a trailer load to make a few more dollars out of it.
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$225 & up full cord mixed hardwood, split and delivered here on CT.
The State legislature has decided only cords and half cords can be sold commercially. The terms "face cord", "truckload", "pile in my backyard", etc. can't be used in ads.
There's an exception allowed for retail outlets that sell small bundles of 6 or 8 sticks for $5.99

We had a banner year for downed oak thanks to a tornado last July. A lot of it ended up going to the dump.
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OK...here's what I'm going with....

A Southern "rick" is the same thing as a Northern "face cord"....

and, assuming a cut length of 16", this would equal 1/3rd of a full cord (3 times 16" equals 48" or 4').

Thanks to gregintenn and m657...
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You can buy a 1/2 ton pickup load full around here for $50 to $75 split and delivered.
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You can buy a 1/2 ton pickup load full around here for $50 to $75 split and delivered.
What size pickup?

Send them over this way with 2-3 full size truck loads.
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I'm not sure what a cord sells for around here. I like to accumulate it myself. This pic was taken last year. I burnt most of that and have got it back to that size again this year.

Look up at the top end behind the golf cart and you can see my splitter. The orange handle sticking up on a chopping block is the handle of a Sotz Monster Maul...15#'s of hand-swung steel. Any body else but me using one of those from the past?

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When I was a kid, my dad would let me borrow his pickup for Saturday night if I filled it with firewood. He new better than to ask. We lived on the coast and wood was everywhere. He drove a fork truck at the local sawmill, and came home one Monday bitching about somebody taking all the stickers (4x4's used to separate units of sawn lumber) after loading a big barge. I didn't have the nerve to tell him to go look in the back yard. I cut them in half and stacked them up. Heh, heh.
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