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No castle doctrine in Canada; S/W owner charged for defending himself
This is what comes of liberalism gone wild. A man is woken up to his house being FIRE BOMBED, he grabs his S/W out of the safe, scares off the bombers, and guess who gets all his guns confiscated and is charged with crimes?
Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers | Features | National Post
Do we have some Canadian S/W owners who can give some insight; will the trial set him free? will he get his guns back?
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01-22-2011, 11:51 AM
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Not good at all. It;s sad really
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01-22-2011, 11:56 AM
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Very sad, indeed, especially under a Conservative government in Ottawa. Let's hope this man is freed by the Canadian courts and has his guns and license returned post haste.
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01-22-2011, 11:59 AM
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Bummer . . . but, hey, America will be just like that in 20, 30 years.
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01-22-2011, 12:29 PM
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What the ----? Why would the populace put up with that? Dont people vote there? Unbeliveable!
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01-22-2011, 01:02 PM
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This is why I renewed my membership to the NRA. There are people in our government who would adopt similar legislation if they could. While I don't remember the details (perhaps someone recalls better than I) but some liberals in Congress once wanted to pass a law that would require homeowners, who are armed, to retreat from any threat, even to the point of leaving their home. The homeowner could only use deadly force if he/she was literally trapped by the intruder and could no longer retreat. It appears some people are not as interested in us defending ourselves as they are in making sure we do it in a politically correct manner. I'm sure if any of us caught someone firebombing our house we'd show them what "politically correct" means.
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01-22-2011, 01:15 PM
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This is exactly why I live in Texas and don't ever plan on moving.
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01-22-2011, 01:54 PM
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It's just as bad here in Sweden.
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01-22-2011, 08:04 PM
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I suspect that there is more of a back story in this case than what is being reported. Quite simply it sounds like an ongoing fued and the area prosecutor has decided to file charges on everyone within reach.
I'll also point out that in most states Castle Doctrine stops at the threshold of your doors, do any shooting from the front porch and charges may result. Not saying that it's right, but it is the way these laws work in most states. Basically, had he just opened a window and fired from that position, he may have avoided any charges. As soon as he stepped outside he went from defending his life to defending his property, which currently is only allowed in Texas.
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just for the record, even if the castle doctrine is in effent where you live, depending on the situation you can still be charged for protecting your home or family. odds are you have a better chance of beating those charges or having them dropped than a canadian resident but it's not a right or wrong issue. where laws, prosecutors, and lawyers are involved, there are always grey areas.
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01-22-2011, 08:21 PM
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Just another reason never to live in Canada. Nice place to visit, however the laws do not favor the citizen. The folks that vote for these politicans, and the laws they produce, leave a lot to be desired. I'll stick to good old Florida where you know the law of self defense applies. Lucky to be here!
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01-23-2011, 02:20 AM
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Wow...what is this world coming to when a man is charged for defending himself from men doing this to his home? While there may be a history of neighbors who dislike one another and it is true that an article alone does not give us the whole backstory on this situation one cannot ignore the visual evidence here. I hope everyone who condemns this man watches his security camera tape! I was shocked... after watching his security video of those guys firebombing his house I truly cannot believe he has to stand trial for this. If I was put in that situation and it was my house... My family and I are inside and masked men are firebombing the house over and over... Well... I guess the most civil way to write how i would react would be this... "I live in Texas."
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01-23-2011, 02:47 AM
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This could happen here in Germany, too.
Stupid laws and lawmakers (= politicians) here as well as in Canada, which I consider a nice place to visit for the nature, but besides wouldn't want to live there.
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Originally Posted by Bullseye 2620
Very sad, indeed, especially under a Conservative government in Ottawa. Let's hope this man is freed by the Canadian courts and has his guns and license returned post haste.
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The Conservative governnment in Ottawa, lead by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, is currently a minority government. Meaning it does not have a majority of seats in the house to reverse all those years of liberalism. Harper's Conservatives are a right wing party, pro-gun, pro-self defence. But first they have to gain around 12 seats in the house. As the polls presently show, this is now possible. The next federal election is just around the corner and Harper is playing it pretty cool as not to scare off the eastern liberals who are ready to vote conservative. Us guys out west here are die hard conservatives but the east has a majority of seats.
This guy that has been charged for defending his home will get off. You have to understand, he's in the liberal east. Out west here it'd be a different story. A year or so back, on Vancouver island, a jewellery store owner shot and killed, with his handgun, a robber and was acclaimed a hero.
Things are changing in Canada and will be baby steps until the Conservatives gain a majority. It's coming and long over do.
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01-23-2011, 09:41 AM
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As soon as he stepped outside he went from defending his life to defending his property, which currently is only allowed in Texas.
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You are partially correct. Under many circumstances a person can protect & defend their property in Louisiana as well. We were the first with a Shoot the Burglar Law and then the first with a Shoot the Carjacker law. However shooting someone not on your property is a charge waiting to be filed. Had a man fatally shoot a man running away from a home invasion. The man drove up and saw guys leaving through his open front door. He shot. He was arrested.
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Bummer . . . but, hey, America will be just like that in 20, 30 years.
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Uhh...NOT ! It will totally be up to mother China what we do in 20 or 30 years, right after their military crushes us down to the woosified, fat, lazy, quarter-pounder eating liberal controlled cesspool we will become. And we can't stop it because they took away all of our guns first, and then came back and took away all of our knives..... Shoo
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