Carbines as self defense or just plinking.

mg357 · #51 02-18-2014, 09:38 AM

M1 Carbine M1 Carbine M1 Carbine

Dominus_Lex · #52 02-18-2014, 10:16 AM

I have been very happy with my Beretta, and would have no issues using it as a home defense tool, and yes it a a heck of a lot of fun at the range.

BearBio · #53 02-18-2014, 10:44 AM

The M1 Carbine is nice, especially if you have a matching handgun (Ruger Blackhawk in my case).

Wouldn't feel naked with a lever in a pistol caliber either. But then, I practice with mine.

J. R. WEEMS · #54 02-18-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shaggist

Here's 1 vote for the M-1 .30 cal carbine, the 'baby Garand' of WW2. It is light and handy, and accommodates a variety of magazines from 5 to 30 round. The cartridge is a potent little thing, putting a 110 grain slug out the muzzle at about 1990 fps. It has virtually no recoil, being gas operated, and a nice little bark when you pull the trigger. For HD, you can put 10 rounds into a home invader before he can hit the floor, and for plinking, it will make a plastic pop bottle of water explode.

Be prepared to load your own, as the ammo is starting to reach collector status, and isn't as cheap as shooting 22 RF like it used to be. For that matter, 22 RF isn't as cheap to shoot as it used to be.

I sold my Carbine,

but still have my Ruger Blackhawk in 30Carbine, which I have a tailored load for. Discovered some , new to me, Hornady bullets last year and got in under the radar being able to order in enough to last me for a long time.

Some years ago I passed on a carbine of sorts, in 10MM. Don't remember the brand, but am sorry I did so. It was one of those nasty black guns with no style at all.

BAM-BAM · #55 02-18-2014, 11:12 AM

PCC are a hoot to shoot........

My first was a Rossi in .357 ....... I up graded to a Winchester Trapper in .357..... check out Skinner barrel sights to replace the factory rear sight..a great improvement.

The Beretta CX4 Storm's are great guns...... with a red dot they are good to go for self defense..... out to 75yds.......inside 50 2-3moa groups are easy to do all day.......have read about the over penetration issue.... but the handiness and ability to share mags makes it a practical urban SHTF combo.

Also 15,17,18,20 and 30 round factory and Mecar. mags are readily available and fairly cheap......... also it's shorter than an AR with stock collapsed .....

Combo'ed with a Beretta 92 all mags are interchangeable...IMO a good low profile short range defense/zombie combo

My latest is a Ruger 77/.357 with a Weaver 1-3x20 scope. stainless with synthetic stock it's my current utility rifle at the farm. Feeds .38s and .357 well.

pluspea · #56 02-18-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stantheman86

The old "thutty thutty" is a nice round and often overlooked in this new world of plastic pistols and rifles. One of my "needs" is a Magnum Research BFR 30/30 revolver.

I have an older Winchester carbine from the 60's in 30/30 and it has some punch, and it can reach out and touch to 300 yards. Roughly the equivalent of a 7.62x39 with a lot more class

It has enough power for almost any realistic job you would need a rifle for, it won't kick the heck out of you and very accurate.

I like the 30 30 also, kinda between too powerful and not to powerful, feel well armed with mine.

s&wbest · #57 02-20-2014, 05:59 AM

I have found some things to consider when using a 135gr load.
In the past the FBI has tested and found this load failing to penitrate and did not pass it in testing.
Bullet design using copper and bonded bullets have improved since this testing.
The velocity increase using a 135gr (Corbon) was impressive in vewing ballistics by the inch charts. The increase in velocity in a longer carbine barrel improves the sectional density numbers and possibly could improve penitration. Increased velocity also may degrade accuracy if the bullet starts jumping the barrel rifling due to the twist rate for the barrel in your carbine possibly resulting in a loss in accuracy at a distance.

I can only test by shooting targets at a range and hearing how loud the gong sounds. If you have hunting or real life experience with a carbine I would be interested in hearing from you.

brucev · #58 02-20-2014, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by imjin138

Recently I have been toying with the idea of a pistol caliber carbine, I have been looking at the CX4 Beretta that uses the 92 magazines. I think it would be enjoyable to shoot and may be able to double as a home defense tool.

The other rifle I am looking at is the Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle while not pistol caliber it also looks fun. Haven't bought anything yet just looking for now

Take a look at this... Mom fights back against home invaders on Detroit's west side - YouTube . Stop at about 53 seconds into the report. Do not yet own one. Have been reading about various carbines. The Hi-Point as used here by likely a non-gun type person looks to be a good choice for plinking... and even sweeping unwelcome people out the door.