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Old 10-22-2012, 09:38 PM
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My story isn't about a spooky person or place, but a thing. A Colt Detective snubbie. I bought this gun about 20 years ago. As long as I owned it I kept thinking about using it to commit suicide. I had a dozen other pistols in the house, but that one preyed on my mind. After 3 or 4 months I sold it and the problem went away. I don't know anything of the guns history, but I've never had another affect me that way.
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You want to see spooky? These pictures are of a priest that was in charge of a youth group when my daughter was younger. I forbid her to be anywhere near this individual ever. Check the eyes. Freaked me out. Downloaded from her camera.
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Jesus H Jones dude ....
do a google search on that one and see what became of him.
genetic glitch or windows to a soul black as original sin .... I wouldn't take chances either. it might be interesting to see what kind of a name he's made for himself though, if only to keep an eye on him.
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It's just my opinion, that men of faith shouldn't wear goatees. That's just something that's always associated with Satan. Ever see a picture of him without one?
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I don't get the same sense of fear about this Priest that some do---Just me, now the beard thing also leaves me in a quandry as to why this is a feeling.
You follow your instincts and I will also.
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I have been following this thread. I believe in a sixth sense or what ever you want to call it. While in southeast Asia I was the CQ; I was to do 15 min checks on the ARVN guards that were assigned to guard our perimeter. I has just stepped around the corner of the building and stopped to get a sense of the area. I got this feeling" YOU NEED TO MOVED NOW! I took 2-3 steps and there was the sound of slugs hitting the wall and then the gun shots, then all hell broke lose. I have met men and women with "dead eyes" and I could not get away fast enough. When working as a mental health crisis worker I was called to the county jail to interview a man who has just been arrested and charged with child rape. I was to assess this man for suicidal intend. I could feel the evil in this man.
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Appears to be red eye removal program maybe camera based causing the black eyes. Still creepy looking
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This may not qualify as evil, but once during a trek in the AZ desert, I slipped and fell into a clump of cholla cactus during a long hike while it was 110 degrees and I was almost out of water. A rattler peeped out from under a nearby rock as I plucked several needles out of my leg and subsequently lost my sense of direction. Talk about dread.
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Karnivore,

I have experienced a sense of foreboding on a number of occasions. Most of the time it turned out to be nothing.

Very recently I was in a local grocery store, I had just completed my shift at the PD and was picking up a few items to fix for the evening meal.

I'm in plainclothes, standing in line, (my agency allows me to display my firearm so long as my badge is visible), and I see the distinct pattern of a red dot laser on a sign next to me. First glance I think it is part of the display sign, then it disappears and reappears and disappears again.

I start looking around, trying not to be too alarmist, it could be someone with a pointer or it could be worse.

Am unable to locate anyone behind me so I stay VERY alert as I complete the purchase and go to my car.

Probably some moron playing with a pointer but you can be assured I will be very alert in that store for a good while.
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I've seen a few people on some tv program that have colored the white part of the eye to give that evil look. It's risky and if it gets into the pupil of the eye it can cause blindness I hear
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Our catholic church had a lower church that was built first and then later they built the upper church on top of the other one. I was sitting at mass one sunday and I believe the priest was giving the sermon. Off to my left front I saw something black rise up where some other attendees were and head up towards the ceiling and disappear. I noticed some commotion where this happened so at this point I am pretty sure I was not the only one who had seen this.

I worked shift work for close to 30 years. Actually liked the 3-11 and 12-8 shifts as I could get my work done without the bosses being around. Blue prints of the company property showed that at one time there was an Indian burial ground on company property. Well near as I could figure out the location was fairly near to one of our pump houses.
I had a mechanic who would rather get sent home than work there late at night alone. So I usually went down there to help him. Said things don't feel right here. And here was the approximate location of the burial ground. I never noticed anything except the wild dogs walking down the road behind you. Few stones in their direction usually cured that. Now scarey things like a half full tanked coming in to our dock to offload fuel oil. But instead of comeing alongside with tugs he's heading straight towards the dock. The boat drops anchor chains but she's too close for the to do anything. Wham bow on to the concrete dock. Put a 6-8' wide gash through the steel plates and about 15 ' high. We've had that dock hit a few times. After I retired one of my friends called to say that section of the dock ended up in the east river. Frank
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Unfortunately, I have had uncanny feelings of evil that were justified.

The feelings I recall were warranted. Attempted muggings, suicide, and worse.

If you have doubts in a peculiar situation, leave.

As a civilian, my experiences have made me wary.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:25 AM
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In the 60's as a rooky cop, now and then you had to fill in for a oldtimer walking beat cop. Contrary to what us youngsters thought those were choice jobs for many reasons.....No radio's just call box conection with district. Your calls were pre determened as to a schedule by the hour. Different beats called at different times...You learned the sounds or lack of sounds of a sleeping city darn quick. No large city is actually with out sound, certain normal night sounds you learn right away others proobably take years to get used to......Every once in a while the sounds of the city would seem to just stop...You sensed it more than not hearing sounds. When it happened it seemed that every walking beat cop sensed it also as the baton signels would begin. (The tapping of your stick on a metal light pole, and sure enough all the lights on top of the call boxes would start blinking) Later you would ask the call boy what was going on, he would just say I just felt funny and wanted every one to check in......What was it? Who knows but even the oldtimers would tell you...When you get that feeling (watch out)..It was a strange lack of sound, city sleeping sound, that caught your attention....I alwaqys had great respect for those old time walking beat cops, they seemed to have developed a 6th sense about the sleeping city........They knew more than the most educated guy on the department....Great teachers for a rooky cop.
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I am a minister and back in the 80's I was pastoring a church in New Mexico. The church had a parsonage next door to the church. The parsonage had a chain link fence around the yard with the front gate directly in front of the home. From the home, you could go through the back door of the church and enter a hallway that wound it's way through the Sunday School rooms. I would often go to a small study that was located just on the other side of the baptistry. There was a door on the other side of the baptistry that opened out into the hallway.
One afternoon I was studying when I heard someone begin walking up the hallway. It easy to hear because it was an old church that had hardwood floors. I heard the steps come up the the doorway just on the other side of the baptistry and they stopped. I wasn't too worried because I thought it was my wife coming out to get me. However, the steps started again and faded. After about 45 minutes, I finished up and went back to the house and asked my wife what she wanted. She asked, "What do you mean?" and I replied that I had heard her come down the hallway in the church. She said that she had never left the house all day.
Back in the 90's, I took a summer job, delivering school buses from the Bluebird plant in North Georgia. We delivered throughout the US but I remember one trip where we were taking four buses to Canton, Ohio. We usually traveled in groups of four, with a lead driver that pulled a van behind his bus that we would drive back. This particular trip, I had a bus that would not go over 55 mph. Needless to say, I was the last bus in line. The lead driver decided to pull in at a truck stop near Cincinnati to try and sleep for a couple of hours before pulling in. The other three drivers were able to find a place to park up close but since I was last, I had to pull all the way in the back of the truck stop parking lot.
I went toward the back of the bus and decided to try to sleep by stretching across the aisle of the bus, with my head in one seat and my feet in the seat across. As I lay there, I suddenly remembered that I had not pushed the door all the way shut. This bus had the old swing arm door that you had to push it all the way in to lock the door. I thought that since I'm laying down, it will be okay. However this strong sense came over me that I needed to get up and shut the door completely. I lay there for about 10 minutes trying to argue myself into just leaving it alone but this sense became stronger, so I finally got up and secured the door and then went and lay back down.
About 5:00 am, I was suddenly woken up by the sound of someone trying to pry open the door. I did not have a firearm with me, as the company completely forbid carrying one. I raised up and watched this man try to get the door open. After a couple of minutes, he finally gave up and left. Who knows what might have happened if I had not gotten up and secured the door?
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1972: I had just made sergeant, but I still liked to go out on the street with my old partner from the detective division rather than sit in the office and try to act like a boss.
I liked working with him because he was also former military and we kept to the standard of not staying too close together when approaching someone so it would be hard for one guy to take us both out. At about 1:30 AM we spotted a guy who was just begging for a field contact-would not look at us-two big guys in an obvious unmarked squad car. We pulled ahead of him got out and started our approach. We were about 4 feet apart, I was getting a really bad feeling and was reaching for my weapon when my partner started shooting, put all 6 rounds from his old registered magnum in a palm size pattern on the guys' chest. DRT(dead right there). I did not see a gun on the guy, and his hands were in view and empty. I was completely stupified, asked ***? Partner said "he had really bad eyes". Checking the corpse I found a cocked 1911 in his rear waistband, an old S&W "lemon squeezer" .32 in his left pocket, and a High Standard 2 shot in his right sleeve, all fully loaded. I never knew how he knew, but he bet his career, pension and freedom on a gut feeling. I thought the guy was hincky also, but not enough to start shooting.
The kicker was that when the paramedics arrived, they found a live grenade taped to the guys' left leg where one might pack a leg holster. The grenade was the baseball type then in use in VN, and was LIVE! The pin had been straightened to make it easier to pull out.
Even though both of us were entirely compentent to handle the grenade we and everyone else blocked off the street till the bomb techs got there and removed it.
The moral of this little story? Pay attention to "feelings" and also do a really good serach-even on someone who is DRT. Was my fault, I was doing the search and was distracted by all the other stuff I found.
Have had bad feelings about folks since, and most of the time I was right, although not so dramatically.
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1972: I had just made sergeant, but I still liked to go out on the street with my old partner from the detective division rather than sit in the office and try to act like a boss.
I liked working with him because he was also former military and we kept to the standard of not staying too close together when approaching someone so it would be hard for one guy to take us both out. At about 1:30 AM we spotted a guy who was just begging for a field contact-would not look at us-two big guys in an obvious unmarked squad car. We pulled ahead of him got out and started our approach. We were about 4 feet apart, I was getting a really bad feeling and was reaching for my weapon when my partner started shooting, put all 6 rounds from his old registered magnum in a palm size pattern on the guys' chest. DRT(dead right there). I did not see a gun on the guy, and his hands were in view and empty. I was completely stupified, asked ***? Partner said "he had really bad eyes". Checking the corpse I found a cocked 1911 in his rear waistband, an old S&W "lemon squeezer" .32 in his left pocket, and a High Standard 2 shot in his right sleeve, all fully loaded. I never knew how he knew, but he bet his career, pension and freedom on a gut feeling. I thought the guy was hincky also, but not enough to start shooting.
The kicker was that when the paramedics arrived, they found a live grenade taped to the guys' left leg where one might pack a leg holster. The grenade was the baseball type then in use in VN, and was LIVE! The pin had been straightened to make it easier to pull out.
Even though both of us were entirely compentent to handle the grenade we and everyone else blocked off the street till the bomb techs got there and removed it.
The moral of this little story? Pay attention to "feelings" and also do a really good serach-even on someone who is DRT. Was my fault, I was doing the search and was distracted by all the other stuff I found.
Have had bad feelings about folks since, and most of the time I was right, although not so dramatically.
Amazing situation was this guy wanted for any crimes?
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It's just my opinion, that men of faith shouldn't wear goatees. That's just something that's always associated with Satan. Ever see a picture of him without one?
Um, because it would probably get singed and be all blotchy looking!? Sorry, but your opinion leaves me befuddled !
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It's just my opinion, that men of faith shouldn't wear goatees. That's just something that's always associated with Satan. Ever see a picture of him without one?
There are no pictures of Satan, just renderings of somebody's idea of Satan, which go a long way toward perpetrating a stereotype.
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That's true, ask anyone to draw a picture of Satan, and what do you get? Horns, pointed ears, big grin, and goatee. Ministers shouldn't look sinister.
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The area of WV we live in has a centuries long history. Including stories of many people losing their lives while trying to carve a living out of the mountains.
We were hiking on a wooded trail which followed a mountain ridge and we had that moment of complete quiet. No breeze in the trees, no birds, insects or any sound at all. That was creepy but I swear I could hear voices just beyond my range of hearing and it felt like I was being watched. Spirits of the dead? My hand automatically went to my right hip. Then I remembered the trail crossed into MD and MD does not reciprocate with WV and open carry is unlawful.
We kept going and the woods eventually came back to life. We hiked this trail a few times since. Sometimes I can still hear the voices and feel the eyes. Don't mind that so much. It's when they try to drop trees on us that kinda bugs me. Came close a couple of times, ya just gotta make sure to stay aware.
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Back in the early 1980's my dad and I were coming home from visiting my grandmother who was in long term recovery at a local hospital. A small community on the way back to our home was having its annual festival that day. My dad said we might as well stop at the festival and get some good food. I agreed.

He drove up and parked near the church. There was a small old helicopter flying around with a streamer that said "Bingo Ball Drop 1PM!!. I pointed it out to my dad. It was about 12:45. My ad got an odd look on his face, looked at the church for a minute and then said " Bill, it looks too crowded right now. I think we'll just go and grab a pizza." I was a little upset, but dad was already unlocking the car, so away we went.

20 minutes later we were entering our hometown. Several fire engines and a couple ambulances went screaming by us heading out of town. My dad was a newsman and had a scanner. I said "Dad turn on the scanner! Wonder if there is a wreck?" My dad didn't turn on the scanner, he just stopped at the pizza place and said "Let's eat here instead of going home." We were just about finished eating our pizza when a woman who knows my dad said. "I'm surprised your not covering the helicopter crash in Derry! I heard eight or nine people got killed!!"

That evening, the local TV stations had coverage. The old 1950's Bell helicopter (like the ones in M*A*S*H) was in the process of dropping hundreds of prize bingo balls on the crowded church parking lot when the pilot hit the tail rotor on a electrical wire. He lost control and plunged the chopper into the crowd. Eight people died instantly. My dad told me he got an icy chill down his spine when I pointed out the helicopter. Then, when he looked at the church he said he swore he saw an image of something in the main stained glass window. He told me he just had to get out of there as something wasn't right... He never did tell me what image he saw in the window.

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Or have black eyes. That's not natural. He had to do that!
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Or have black eyes. That's not natural. He had to do that!
actually after doing some research, its not unnatural its just very uncommon. Its a trait that seems to pop up from time to time in Hispanics. At least that was the case for all examples I could find on the net.
The eyes aren't actually black, but a very very dark brown in these cases. Not to say it isn't creepy as all get out.
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actually after doing some research, its not unnatural its just very uncommon. Its a trait that seems to pop up from time to time in Hispanics. At least that was the case for all examples I could find on the net.
The eyes aren't actually black, but a very very dark brown in these cases. Not to say it isn't creepy as all get out.
Believe it or not, I actually saw (on the Internet, so it must be true) an idiot that had his eye tattoo'd!!?!! And I too only saw Latinos with the dark eyes. I could find no Caucasians. It could also be contacts. I found a bunch of weird ones of those!
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I was in a department store in the early 1980's. I was standing alone in an aisle perusing auto parts when I heard a calm, quiet, male voice (not in my head, not a shout I could have heard from a distance). It said "Watch out Dale. Dale watch out." I looked left and right and was alone. I immediately ran to the end of the aisle and looked into the aisles on either side. No one. I went and found my wife and we got the hell out of there. The wife said I was white as a ghost when I found her. Frankly, I was shook up for a little while.
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I honestly believe that a lot of this comes from folks that spend time alone, or out in nature (hunting, hiking etc). I think that for what ever reason it heightens our senses up. I become extremely aware whenever I am hunting and probably for 12 hours after I get home as well.

But probably the most, hair raising, 'dont do it' feeling was about a year and and a half ago. I Work and have night classes, so not much free time. In the effort to fix a failing relationship I was in, (story for another time there!) I told my instructors I wont be in thur-fri-monday and took the three days off work. We had plans to meet up with a good friend of mine in Lynden in the morning, and afterwards drive out to this cabin we rented in BFE eastern Washington. Sounded awesome, and romantic at the same time, right? Well she was over wednesday night and we woke up early on thursday to head up to my buddies. The second I opened my eyes my spine went cold, my hair all over my arms and neck raised up and when I looked out at my truck this thought was just that 'we have to leave later, we cannot leave when we are ready'. We got ready, loaded my truck up and she hopped in, but instead of us leaving, I decided we should go make breakfast at the house. We made this huge breakfast, my folks had some, and it took us about 45 minutes to finish and leave. On the way up, we got stopped by a huge pileup. A few folks had died. When I found out what time the accident happened, I realized that if we had left when we wanted to, we would have been in that accident, or damn near close to it.

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Been almost a year since the last post, been almost two years since the first.

It's time to resurrect the thread and hope that we have some new stories to be shared.

Thanks to all previous input. It has been very interesting read.
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I come over all shivery when zombie threads suddenly come back to life. Silver bullets just ain't what they used to be.
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I don't get feelings of dread or worry but I do sometimes get a feeling of distrust for certain people. On a few occasions it has been for people everyone else seems to like an respect. My wife when younger said I was jealous or being obstinate. But one assistant pastor always seemed to have way to much time on his hands, exercised way too much and seemed to hug the young ladies and joke around a great deal. His knowledge of the bible seemed a bit rudimentary, but he was the jock pastor.

Anyway fast forward 6 years and it turns out he preaches a sermon where he admits he has been fighting an issue with pornography and is struggling with the temptation all his life.

Fast forward another year or two and now he works with an all male athletic ministry which and our church is a primary fund raiser for him and he is the highest missionary expense we have...

I firmly believe to this he was a womanizer, probably and teen molester.

BUT there is no evidence and it's just my opinion. I have encountered other people I took a strong dislike or distrust to and couldn't figure out why. In a few cases they turned out to be just bad people.
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I've had episodes of heightened sensitivity, nothing looks like it did before, sometimes beautiful, sometimes foreboding.

Sometimes it feels like electricity in the air, kinda like my hair bristles and it smells like ozone, especially if trouble is brewing among a crowd of people but hasn't erupted yet. (read bar fight). I believe that we have instincts left over from our caveman days but we don't usually recognize them because we have repressed them so much for so long.


Sometimes I think my endorphins kick in. Before we were married I was driving up to visit my wife, and I may have just been glad to be going to see her. It was late afternoon and I saw a splash of sunlight in a green field with trees behind it. It struck me as one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen and I still remember that moment. It was like that for just a moment all was right with the world. I didn't (don't) even use drugs.

Oh, I would be remiss if I didn't mention the lady in our church that could tell when people were going to die. It was uncanny. In a conversation with her daughter one time she said, "Do NOT let my Mama put that eye on you!" There would be conversation about people in the church in general and a person would come up and she would say, "Well, she's not going to be around too long." or something to that effect. I never knew her to be wrong. We had an older congregation so she had plenty of people to put the 'eye' on.

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Back in high school, I had a science teacher who always liked to teach his personal beliefs along with the facts of science.

He usually told people if they didn't want to listen, they didn't have to seeing as how it wasn't on the curriculum.

He believed in the "sixth sense" based on this event that happened to him.

He liked to tell this story about him and a fellow female teacher.

They were both leaving school in separate vehicles and he was behind the female teacher when they both arrived at a red traffic signal. The female teacher was the first vehicle at the stop light, and he was behind her. The light turned green, the female teacher let off the brakes. He said he had a very eerie feeling at this point and it felt right to blare on the horn.

Lucky he did, because the female teacher stopped and watched as a vehicle blew right through a red light. Would of t-boned the female teacher if she wouldn't have stopped.

From what he said, the female teacher got out of her car, made eye contact with him, and other than a "thank you" they never talked of it again.
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Heres mine and I dont get eerie feelings often.

1) I was 21 and doing newspaper delivery in my home town and I had to be there by 3:30 AM to meet the truck delivering the bundles of papers. The drop of point was right next to the train tracks and no lights on anywhere with in about a 2 block radius. I was alone, grabbed my stack tossing them into the car so I could drive somewhere with light.

I drove up 6th street and saw Faske's Garage with a light on so I parked next to where the gas pumps would be. I started rolling and banding papers. I heard something in the distance that sounde like it was starting to rain and rapidly moving my way. I was irritated because--if it was going to rain? meant I now had to bag about 600 papers before I could start delivery. The "rain" came closer and as I looked out the drivers window and to my rear--I saw at least 100 illegal aliens running down 6th street passing my car-then they veered right to run down Doddridge Str. I got out of the car and looked around and also down 6th from where they came. Keep in mine-I saw still near the railroad tracks and they hop rides on their way to and or through my town. I didnt see any others so I moved ops outside the car and was about to continue to roll papers when "something" ""told"" me to get my 9 shot 22 handgun out of the car that I forgot was there because it was kept in a brown paper bag. I pulled out the bag but left the gun in it-placed it on the hood of my car and started rolling more papers. Next I hear "rain" again and turned in time to see another very large group running down 6th-past my car and veering down Doddridge.

I was thinking of relocating to finish rolling papers so I started gathering my papers loading them back into my car-when I heard a rustling of the bushes I was only several feet from--and two more illegals came out and one started heading for the front of my car--talking and trying to keep my attention--but hair stood stiff on back of neck and I noticed the 2nd guy trying to move to my back and on my side of the car--while the other asked for money for Cigarettes.

I said I had no money and then I reached for the bag and grabbed the pistol pulling it out (it wasnt loaded but in the dark--couldnt be noticed) and I aimed it at the guy trying to sneak up on my back--and he said something in Spanish that must have been something like: "Oh S---, a gun" and they both ran away--I jumped in the car still leaving a bundle of papers on the hood--and I drove out of the area and headed to an all night store with many lights-and finished the bundles and did my delivery. Nothing else came of that incident.

2) About 6 years later-I was in Corpus for two reasons--one I was volunteering to help run a booth at a Church Halloween festival and to also pick up my first Walther P 38. I had picked up the Walther hours earlier--and had placed it into an ammo can I kept in the trunk of my car.

I went to the Church to do my work--finding out the Church was in a bad neighborhood called: The Cuts. Its an mostly non-caucasion neighborhood. Anyway, the volunteer work was great had no probs--that is--until after it ended. I got into my car-took off and when I needed to break at a light-the car brake pedal had no resistance in it because the line broke and everything leaked out--when I tried the pedal. I did a Bionic Man thing and had to use my left foot out the door to try to slow down and finally stop my car.

I was on the edge of The Cuts--when I pulled into Schaffer Muffler Shop right on Leopard Street--when had no light son anywhere and it was pitch black. I HAD to stop so I could try fixing the break fluid leak. I stopped int he parking lot--opened the hood of the car adn the damned light was burned out--so I relied on a flashlight with old batteries which didnt help at all--but since I knew the ins and outs of the car--I was able to feel around and find what I needed.

I had to go to the trunk and get another bottle of break fluid out and something told me to get the Walther. I placed the Walther on the air filter and proceeded to find the break and tape it so I could put more fluid in and go somewhere to properly fix the leak.

Anyway, I was in the midst of taping the line when I heard scuffling sounds coming my way from the northbound end of a southbound car. Two black guys walking my way and they did the same cigarette=money=request thing like the two illegals tried years earlier. The first guy--walking to the front and asking me things while 2nd guy was trying his end run sneak up on me. I said I had no money--which basically was true--(only had $8 for gas and such) but he persisted. The hair standing on neck thing again--and I grabbed the Walther--which too was not loaded and because I never had time that day-to go buy any. I aimed it at the 2nd guy and stopped him in his tracks and he said something like: "Shi---he's got a gun" and they both ran away as fast as possible. I was almost making new bricks in my pants--and I lowered the hood, leaving everything in place--jumped in and started the car and with no brake fluid--sped away and again had to resort of Flintstone breaking methods several times--since I was looking for the nearest store open at that time of the night--which was a Circle K about 5 miles distant.

I made my way there--relieved--put gas in the car and went for more electrical tape and another bottle of fluid. Jury rig was good enough to safely get me home--and I got out of Dodge as fast as possible. This was the 2nd time an empty gun kept me out of harms way.

3) I was at our Condo at the Bandera River Ranch--and was out late one night-nobody else outside their condos--and was about 2AM. I was using internet at the clubhouse and decided to call it a night and left. On the way back to "Antler" I had to pass a very dark open space and Buckhorn and cabin "C". Between Cabin "C" and "B"--I felt the hair stand up on neck again--noticed no sounds at all and "felt" like I was being stalked. Between "C" and Buckhorn cabins--I saw what looked like 3 pairs of red eyes. I hurried my pace to Antler--and got in as fast as possible. I later heard some howling from nearby and felt very relieved to be inside. I had wished I had my Walther with me but left it in the cabin so nobody would freak out that someone had a gun.

Well, next morning--between Buckhorn and "C" cabins--were the remains of a Deer who fell victim to what ever had been there the night before. Needless to say--if I was going to be out after dark every night after--I had my Walther with me.

Since those times--no more fo these type things happened to me.
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Never had anything like that but I can tell you at least once in my life I have met a person who imo was pure evil. It just emanated from him.

Got away as quick as I could.
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When I was a young man, I often hiked and backpacked alone in the Black Hills. One summer day, I set up my tent in a meadow below a place called Cathedral Spires, and then hiked up steep gullies exploring the Spires. It's a very beautiful, awe-inspiring area, and one that is located next to the center of creation, according to local Indian beliefs.

Late in the afternoon, I became tired and found a nice grassy shelf to rest. I fell asleep, and dreamed I became disconnected from my body. I was looking down on myself from above, as though I was atop one of the granite spires that towered 100 feet above the grassy ledge on which I lay. I awoke with a strong feeling of dread. The sun had begun to set, and the gully was completely silent. No sounds of wind in the pines or birds calling, just dead, oppressive silence.

A strong sense of fear overcame me, and my inner voice told me I needed to leave that place immediately. I hurried back down the gully to my campsite, about a quarter of a mile from the base of the Spires. As soon as I left the gully, the overpowering feelings of dread and fear vanished, and I felt foolish and superstitious. The next morning, however, the vivid memories of that incident, made me realize that some power, spiritual or otherwise, had warned me to leave that place.

I've returned to the site alone and with others a few times over the years, and I've never had a repeat experience like the one I described, yet 40 years later, the memory is still vivid enough to cause my skin to break into goosebumps.
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Edit: fun thead..... to add to my 2018 post...... the ridge behind the cabin is the Eastern Continental Divide....... everything east of that foundation flows into the Atlantic ..... everything to the west the Mississippi and Gulf.

The Foundation literally sits on the Divide...........



When I was about 10 (early 60s) we bought property in the Allegheny Mountains in Pennsylvania. The father of the farmer we bought the land from told me about 2 old "wagon roads" over the mountain behind our property.

A couple of weekends later I decided to try to locate one of the old roads and follow it to the top of the mountain/ridge behind our camp. When I got to the top, about 3 miles from camp and any road, I found an over grown meadow ; about 2-3 acres of flat ground right on top of the ridge. Decided to explore a little... towards the middle I saw 3-4 pines and what looked like apple trees. As a got close to these trees I got the sudden feeling that I wasn't alone........it got dead still, not even insect sounds......I slowly did a 180 while loading a .22lr in the Stevens Favorite that Dad had given me..........fighting the urge to run.

As I started to ease out of that meadow I almost stepped into a foundation,about 10x12 and 5-6ft deep, about 30 ft away was a small spring house..... as I got further away the feeling of dread/fear of not being alone just faded away.

Didn't go back into that meadow for years........ always felt that someone had died there; died alone and badly

None of the locals I asked(including the farmers father who told me about the "roads" was around 90 years old.... born in the area about 1875 owned the farm we bought part of in 189something) had any knowledge that the foundation was there.....this was pre ATVs and the closest you could get to this spot in a 4 wheel drive was about 2 miles away.......the foundation was flush with the ground and any structure had completely rotted away.....you almost had to step in it before you saw it.........just stacked stone walls.

Years later reading a history of Berlin Pa. I learned that a family had been killed in an Indian raid in the 1750-60s....... not this site but about 3-4 miles away (about a mile from our cabin)...... but the wagon road ran from the top of the ridge (the meadow) and points directly to where this other homestead was said to be located.

Often wondered if this site dates to the same era?

Edit:I've gone back often in the last ......30 years as it's an easy trip on an ATV....... but every time I enter that meadow it feels like a, for want of a better term, a dead zone.

2nd edit: As I wrote this I realized that it's been 50 years since "I" found this meadow.......and in those 50 years that meadow hasn't really changed. It's on top of a mountain... the soil is thin and poor....but it's surrounded by forest..... the spring house is the only water source I know of in a 1/2 mile... "sand springs" about 1/3 of the way down the wagon road to the west........ other water is about a mile away to the south and east.

Probably, reading to much into it but since that day that clearing has always "felt" different to me.

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I don’t know that it was “evil” but I visited the Medicine Wheel in Wyoming with a friend, we walked around listened to the guide got kind of a sense of the place and then left. When we got back in our car I was sure that maybe a half hour had passed but we had apparently been there for four hours.

On another note I occasionally stand up on a hill at work at sunset and I can just feel something evil in the air not just on the hill but over all the city.
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Evil is real. I don't pretend to understand it and don't philosophize or theologize about it, I just know it's real and that sometimes my more primitive senses can detect it.

I drove past a church, of all places, a few years ago, and had a powerful sense that something awful had occurred in a room off the sanctuary. I don't frighten easily, but that one scared me.

I never researched it. I think it was a case of child abuse, probably sexual, and I doubt it was ever reported.

I sense evil in people sometimes. Not always threatening-looking people either. I sat in a fast-food restaurant in a small city near here and looked over at a woman and her rather downtrodden-appearing husband or boyfriend. I felt such a wave of rage and downright hatred coming from her that it turned my blood to sorbet. I sensed that she just might kill the poor guy with her one day, and was entirely capable of doing it. It wasn't just her angry expression--I'm a retired counselor/therapist and I know the difference. This woman was evil, and very, very sick.

I'm a skeptic about many things and like evidence to back up most claims; but I'm very open-minded about this sort of thing. We have much to learn about the less-obvious human senses.
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Many years ago I had a friend tell me this. He was in the army and playing football. As he he came off the field a officer came up to him and said I am sorry, but your brother was just killed. (The brother also was in the army) It left him in shock and the officer walked off. I cant remember which it was, but one was in germany and the other in korea. When he calmed down he said he went to HQ to find out more details but no one knew anything about it. A day or two later he was informed his brother was killed in a jeep accident at the same time the officer informed him!
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I've met people that radiated hatred but never anyone that radiated evil and there usually is a difference
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Smoke, I never thought of it that way until you brought it up. Your right. Most people can get very mad at times but there is evil people out there that enjoy seeing or giving pain.
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Not always. I've known plenty of both kinds. But pathological hatred, in my opinion, is evil. Heaven know it has led to monstrous crimes and raging insanity throughout recorded history.

The really terrifying evil, of course, is that of the true sociopath who kills and tortures because the capacity for empathy or remorse is missing from him altogether. He can butcher a human simply because he thinks it would be amusing.

I've known a few of those, and tried to treat a few without notable success. Theirs is the icy, dispassionate evil, as opposed to the hot, hate-filled wickedness.

Either kind is scary.
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Having just read all 141 posts, I'm just glad it is still daylight outside.

You guys are creeping me out!
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I’ve thought and thought about it all day and I still can’t come up with anyone that I’ve ever met that radiated evil but I do remember an abandoned house I went to in Pearland Texas that did. I went at night with a friend looking for someone and when we got up to the house we both felt it and we both said I am not going in there at roughly the same time.

I also remember looking at some pictures of Lincoln New Mexico that just looked evil and I never could understand why.
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From the summer of 1961 to the summer of '63 I worked the midnight-to 5 a.m. shift in a radio station and went to college during the day. The broadcast studio was in an old house on the north side of town. The house probably dated to the 'Twenties, but by the 'Sixties the area was classified as "light industrial." Lots of small shops and manufacturing facilities, busy during the day but deserted at night.

When the night man left at midnight I locked both doors and checked all the windows to make sure they were locked, too. Then I locked the door to the control room. The final line of defense was a 1911 in a holster screwed to the underside of the console where I sat. I had been shooting since the age of six or so and had fired a 1911, so I felt pretty safe. Except for...

Three times during the two years I worked that job I got a sudden and strong feeling that, to co-opt the title of the Ray Bradbury novel, something wicked this way comes. Other posters to this thread have mentioned a profound silence. That's what I experienced. There weren't things going "bump" in the night. Conversely, things were so quiet I could hear the soft hiss of the needle on the record and the thudding of my heart, which had suddenly jumped from my normal 50 beats per minute to 100 or more. At the same time, I began to tingle all over. Years later a doctor friend told me that was my system being flooded with adrenaline.

All three times I took the .45 out of its holster and made the rounds of the control room. The window in the outside wall had been sealed up when the soundproofing was put in, but the wall on the hall and the wall between the control room and the room next door were glass--not bulletproof but three-quarter inch laminated glass for soundproofing. It would have been hard to break thru.

Nothing ever happened. No visits from lions, tigers, bears, ghosts, or zombies. After half an hour or so the feeling went away as quickly as it had come. I asked the night man, who worked 7 p.m. to midnight, if he had ever experienced anything like that. He said no, but the look he gave me said otherwise.

One final comment here. When you're a shooter, comfortable with guns and confident of your ability to shoot them, it's amazing how much better you feel at times like that when you have a gun in your hand.
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Hey jimmyj, the keyword in your experience is " semi-conscious". That all has to do with REM sleep my friend - we are basically paralyzed when we are in REM sleep, its a safety mechanism in our brain to keep us from hurting ourselves while we sleep. You came into a semi-conscious state but your brain was lagging behind thus not allowing you to move. Once it caught back up with you, movement was allowed again. I'll bet it was pretty scary though! There's a medical term for it but it slips my mind right now but you're good to go!
This is rough when you have severe obstructive sleep apnea. You wake up and realize you can't breathe, but you can't move. It's scary as hell.
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The "priest" is wearing black sclera contact lenses.

The cassock collar doesn't appear to fit correctly.

Makes me think this was some sort of costume party where the photo was taken.

Doesn't mean that the guy wearing it wasn't a creep (I would never wear the garment of a religious faction as a "joke"), but anybody who thinks the eyes are his natural condition is pretty gullible.

I've met people who were inexplicably driven to do evil things. It always seemed that something had overcome them. To me the difference between bad acts, and evil is patent. To others, the discernment seems much less acute, or absent altogether.

Pledge to God to what is good and righteous, no matter the personal cost, and you will never be at a disadvantage to evil.
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My wife and I like to tour the Civil War battlefields around the state. She's a yankee, and when she moved here, the only thing she knew at all about "the war" was "There was a war, we won." So she's not really a "buff" at all, but is interested in learning.

We drove out toward Apppmattox one bright, sunny, spring day, and took the turn off to visit the Saylors Creek battlefield. We got out of the car, and walked toward the house there. Suddenly she started to cry. I mean, big, gut wrenching, sobs. She was almost hysterical. "What happened here?" she asked. "Something really BAD happened here."

I started to tell her the story of the battle, how the Federals cut into the retreating Confederates, and cut them to ribbons. Hundreds killed on both sides, thousands taken prisoner, and the last real hope of the Confederacy died.

She stopped me..."We have got to go! I cannot stay here! This is the saddest place I have ever been in my life." as tears rolled down her cheeks.

We got back in the car, and drove back down the road. In a half mile, maybe a mile, she was back to normal. She apologized saying she had no idea what had come over her, but she just knew that she had to leave. I can't get her to go back to this day.
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Wow this is a great thread.

I'll share a recent experience I had back in November. One evening I was out hunting and it started to get dark. I was hunting on private land and my quarry was either an axis deer or a feral hog (both of which are legal to hunt after dark). I settled down in a good spot at the base of an oak where I could look out over a field and proceeded to screw my hunting light mount onto my rifle. I waited for an hour or so and by now it was dark. My eyes had adjusted and I was starting to make out shapes and shadows that I assumed to be a small heard of axis deer coming into the field about 100yards away. I started looking at the shapes thru my scope trying to select a potential target before flipping on the spot light. All of a sudden the place went deathly quiet. No sound at all. Just like the woods will go quiet when the birds and squirrels realize you are there. Only problem is my presence was not the reason for the silence. The hair on my neck stood up and I couldn't help but feel or sense that something or some one was behind me. I tried squirming around to look or hear, but that chilling silence continued. Finally after what seemed like an eternity but might have only been a minute I decided to leave. I am familiar with that land and have hunted it before many times in the dark but this time it was different. I hightailed it back to my truck about a 1/4 mile away. The hair on my neck stayed up until I was in the truck with the doors locked and the engine running. A few days latter in a passing conversation a neighbor rancher told me about his nephew spotting a mountain lion (very rare in our parts but not unheard of) the same evening about a mile from and a few hours before I was running back to my truck. Not sure if a mountain lion was what got my nerves up, but I know I was not the only predator in the woods that night.

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Only comment I can offer at this time is 'don't read threads like this before bedtime!"

Pleasant dreams ya'all.
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When I was 15 I was very active in my local church. I would share the gospel every day with my friends at school. One night my friends and I went to Portland to pass out some invitations for a church meeting. That Thursday morning a verse hit me hard and became my verse for the day "the fear of man bringeth a snare but whoso putteth his trust in the Lord shall be safe" I did not know why that morning but I knew I needed that verse and I clung to it all day. We got to portand and my two friends went off together and I went by myself, this was not the nicest part of Portland but something was different I felt a dark presence but I remembered my verse for the day. I walked up to the first door and I could see the man walking up to the door he rips the door open and yells at me "hey how ya doin" he was trying to freak me out but I did not budge, as it turned out he thought I was mormon and he was going to mess with me (im Christian) he turned out to be a cool guy and then he says "watch out for next door they make twisted sister look like nothing". I went next door and there were people everywhere it looked like the aftermath of some heavy metal rock party. I have talked to more than 10,000 about the gospel I am not into spooky stuff, but there was an evil spirit here. I could tell if I let my fear go it would get the best of me. I remembered my verse "the fear of man bringeth a snare but whoso putteth his trust in the Lord shall be safe" I knocked on the door and invited them to church two of the people stormed off but one let me talk to him. I knew something was going on but I did not know what,I the fear was there beyond the norm for regular human interaction. I focused on this person for about 15.min and then we were done. I walked accross the street and down maybe 30 feet and walked up to my friends truck. Mark and Don were waiting for me in the truck. Mark opened the door and I could tell they were deeply concerned about something it looked they had been praying and almost in tears. Don said "are you ok" and I said yes I'm fine what's up? Don said "did you see him?" I said no. Don said "we came walking down the street and we saw a guy accross the street with a gun pointed right at you I don't know what type of gun it was but it was a big one. I asked him what he was doing and he said leave me alone I'm going to shoot him" The man then threatened Don and Mark and then confirmed he was going to shoot and kill me again. There was something dark and evil there I could not see it but I could feel it and it was confirmed at the end of the night. Gods word is true his promises are real I know "the fear of man bringeth a snare but who's putteth his trust in the Lord shall be safe" my faith is not in a 629. My faith for salvation for eternity and life is in the Lord. May you all have this peace.

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I'm surprised that after all this time and all these posts that no old Army infantryman has thrown in with the conversation. So here you are:

When I was a teenager on my senior trip to SE Asia in 1967, new 11B's are taught to walk point with a more experienced guy in that endeavor.

There were all manner of perils in that job and one had to learn to listen to the "bell" if that person ever wanted to make it to being an old guy. This was before the popular "Spidey sense" but it is the same thing. It is truly amazing what can be learned if one is really paying attention.

The posters that mentioned things going quiet in these types of episodes are right. At that stage of hyper-vigilance, the body tunes out the things that are not necessary such as hearing stuff on the periphery. People develop tunnel vision and have exaggerated sensory perception in some areas and none in others. An example would be a person claiming not to have heard his/her weapon fire in a gun fight or claiming that their ears did not ring after firing a weapon in a confined area.

Spooky stuff indeed.
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