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Old 11-29-2011, 10:26 PM
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Theresa and I rolled our quad over on top of us today. We and two other couples and one other friend decided to get one more ride in while we could before we get snowed in for the winter. We went about 40 miles from here to start the ride. We got in some real tough trails at about 7,000 ft, some snow patchs and a very steep narrow rocky trail. I lost the quad and it rolled on us, pinning both of us. Theresa was in bad shape, at first I was scared she broke her leg or foot. We were about 15 miles from the nearest habitation and we had just turned around to head back. Thank God we were rideing with friends and not alone. They lifted the huge heavy quad off us. I was bundeled up in those heavy winter bib overalls that are like a sleeping bag. That cushioned me. Theresa already had a brace on a bum foot. She says she thinks that kept her from breaking it. We are just unwinding, didnt go to a doctor. We both are so stiff we can hardly move. I didnt break anything but I know I did a number on my back.
We have rode a ton of times alone in the boonies, but recently decided to start rideing with others for just this reason! I am not sure I could have got the quad off us without help. Surviveing a night at 7,000 ft pinned down would have not been fun! We are banged up, strained muscles etc but will be okay.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:30 PM
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Very glad you're both relatively OK. ALWAYS smart not to ride alone.

I hope you're both feeling better in the morning.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:36 PM
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Glad you are doing as well as you are, but y'all better go get checked out. Us old folks tend to be a little brittle. I'm betting you are really going to be hurting tomorrow.

I rolled a quad on myself chasing a bunch of cows that had gotten out eight or ten years back. It rolled on the side, pinning my right leg. I got out and got it back up and took off after the cows again. I couldn't do that now. I'd probably lay there crying till someone came along or the buzzards and fire-ants got me.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:37 PM
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Glad you are both okay, Feral. Good that you were riding with friends. I imagine you are gonna be mighty stiff in the morning...
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:40 PM
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Thank God you guys are okay, sounds like a near miss.

Sounds like you have enough snow to quad, we have snow in San Juans but thats about all around here.

Take care and remember that _brittle_ post.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:41 PM
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Glad you're all right! Trapped in the middle of nowhere would be a bad situation.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:41 PM
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That's scary, FM. Really glad you both seem to be OK. Don't be shy about seeing a doc if you think you need to.

Take care of yourself and your wife!
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Glad to hear you had company with you when this happened. I second you and the missus going to get checked out. If for nothing else for your own piece of mind.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:43 PM
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You came out lucky. A lot of people each year are killed or paralyzed from ATV accidents. None of those people started out to have an accident but they did.

I hope the both of you do not suffer too long and heal quick.
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Glad to hear that you and Theresa were not seriously hurt, FM.

You made a wise decision to start riding with friends and it paid off for you.

Heal quickly and get back to those stories that I so enjoy!
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:57 PM
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Glad your both back home and resting in one piece.

I really enjoy your threads about your adventures on the quad.

Get well soon and God Bless.
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Feral,
Glad you all got out alright!! I have been on the wrong end of a few quads, but never pinned down luckily. I'll tell you what the Navy docs would say in this situation: RICE, Rest, Ice, Compress and Elevate. Ohh, and they would give you some of the 800mg horse pill sized motrin as well. Hope the pain passes quickly!
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Theresa wants me to thank all of you for your replys. We will see the doctor. Our doctor has a room with a stair stepper, a tredmill and exercise bikes. We have been going there for almost two months every weekday. It`s only a mile away. We are both huge and out of shape. I had a knee operation about 4 months ago. Actualy I think I have overdone the machines. In the last couple weeks I have kind of reversed myself and it seems I have arthritis in both knees and elbows. I have been useing a walking stick and had it with me on the quad. Today we played hookie with the gym. I dont belive I will be hitting the gym for awhile either, as right now we cant get out of the recliners!
Other than the mishap we had a nice time today and a beautiful ride!
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Glad to hear that you are OK, and had some help out there...

Alleve/Ibuprofen will probably be your friend for a while, but I hope not too long! Who knows, maybe you can get out one more time this weekend, and shake off this bad experience. Take care of yourselves!
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Dang Feral!!! Glad you two are OK! You two better stay upright and mobile for me and my Sweety when we finally get down to look around. Be DARNED careful but as the saying goes, get back on the horse. I'll say a prayer for quick recovery for you and Theresa. Hope the quad isn't too banged up also, Feral.
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Actualy, it didnt hurt the quad. I had been noticeing on the ride that I was hitting rocks on the underbelley that where usualy I wouldnt. Later seen my tires are too soft. That made it steer harder too. On top of that, I think we had far too much weight in the front luggage bag with too much gear. Thinking now about it, I have a OTC thumb lever that is a add on extra long to use with the palm of your hand when your thumb gets tired. Maybe I hit a rock and that gunned the throttle in the event. I had that happen a few times before. Really, it happened so fast I aint sure what I done wrong. A cliff was only yards away that could have rolled us hundreds of feet down the mountain. One other time a year ago I also tipped over but was in deep soft snow.
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Just found this. Sorry about the accident. Very glad you are both not seriously injured. I've had a few bike accidents when racing, but that was in 2004 and 2007. I now ride less aggressively. Hitting the ground that hard leaves a mark.
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Glad to hear you are OK and no major injuries. Tylenol and motrin will be your friends for a few days.
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I'm glad you and your wife didn't get hurt too bad. Get checked out just to be safe and take it easy for a few day's.
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Did anyone see this one, very simular incident, except this guy was alone, very good show.
Crushed and Alone (Crushed by Quad Bike) [part 1] - YouTube
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Glad to hear you were with someone. Hopefully you and your wife are just bumped and bruised. What kind of ATV do you have? My neighbor had a CanAm 2-seat (passenger seat behind the driver's). It seemed pretty stable but it was large and had a long wheelbase.
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Its good to know you and your wife are ok. Prayers have been offered that you both have no serious injuries, that healing will be quick and complete and that there will no long term impact on either of you.

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Old 11-30-2011, 10:54 AM
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Glad you'll are ok. Many times I don't take my own advice but it is safer to have someone with you when you are out and doing things where something can go wrong. Especially as we get older. I can remember hitting the ground rolling and bouncing and now I just go splat. Larry
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Thanks again guys. We both are sore but okay. Theresa is on a walker and I use a walking stick. I belive a big factor was too soft tires. We recently had new tires put on and they probley aired them for lightweights, not 600 lbs of normal people like us! It`s a 2005 bombardier 650 traxtor. At the time the first 2 up quad. Very long, large and heavy. The bigest improvement since ours is quads with power steering, I want one! Thanks for that video. I had seen that on tv a few years ago and had forgot it. About a year ago I talked to a local taxidermist. He was out looking for antlers on his quad in a remote area and it rolled on him and pinned him. He got out of it okay, but his story was part of the reason we started rideing with other couples.
While I am experianced in the boonies etc, I have always been a hap-hazzard type and need to start thinking safety more. This really to me was a almost non event, as it turned out well, however it could have been a big deal had we been alone. Here is a picture of our quad, but we were carrying a lot more equipment on this ride, a good 100 lbs more.
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Glad to hear Your both did OK.

I investigated quad injury accidents several times a year, with a fatality thrown in every 6 to 8 months. Generally the fatalities were from head injuries or if the rider was crushed under the quad; positional asphyxia. Unable to breathe.

With a passenger the center of gravity is so high...your almost assured of a roll over if the tilt angle is even moderate. I'd buy the wife her own or stop carrying a passenger.

Luckily you were with friends and were not injured too badly. Didn't read all of this...Did you guys have helmets on?

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You busted me. No we werent! The other 5 people all were. We had left ours in the truck. It was a very rough trail where we probley never got up over 15 mph and most the time at a walk. I hate seatbelts and helmits. I cant see or hear good useing a helmit and admit its not smart rideing without one.
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Glad everything turned out OK -- except for a few aches and pains. At my age, Advil is my friend -- three at a time!

My wife and I Jeep by ourselves quite often here in Minnesota, as well as CO, UT and AZ. When alone, I am not near as brave tackling obsticles as when we're with a group. We got in trouble only one time (and no, that didn't cure me from traveling alone) -- Day after New Years we were way back in the woods near the Canadian border west of Crane Lake (big sign there saying "End of the Road", when I decided we went far enough and went to turn around. Pulling back onto the trail theJeep engine quit and wouldn't restart. I saw a major fuel leak when my wife cranked it over for me. Ended up walking 8 miles of the 20 to get to a main road when a couple of ice-fishermen from Hibbing came by (after dark by now) and gave us a ride to Orr. The weather was mild and we were prepared and could have spent the night in the woods OK, but was glad they came when they did. The Chrysler - Jeep dealer there had a 4x4 wrecker and towed me out the next morning. Turned out to be a broken plastic fitting on the fuel line by the gas tank.

At least a Jeep is harder to roll than an ATV! I guess the lesson for both of us is to choose trails wisely if traveling alone, keep your vehicle in top shape and be prepared for the worst.

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I am going on 71 years old. I am fat and out of shape and lately have arthritis in both knees and elbows. I have been working out the last couple months and have come to the conclusion it only makes it worse!
I am experianced in the outdoors and with all type of vehicles from motorcycles to flying planes. Along with that I was single most of my life and hap hazzard. Now I am married and my biggest pleasure has been ATVing. It`s a mixed bag. Most my life I was a loner but now ride with friends. I will say that in the past when it was just us I would try to stay off the most dangerous trails because of the inherent danger of being in the boonies alone. Actualy since we started rideing with friends I notice as fact that we all probley ride rougher trails because we have that back-up factor of not haveing to walk out if something breaks or go`s wrong.
I have always silently poo-pooed the usual what guns for bear protection etc. I started out in the NPS. They sent us out alone everyday in the roughest country without guns or even pac sets (radios). That was all over 50 years ago. It no doubt gave me and my counterparts a more devil may care outlook than is accepteable nowdays.
What about the old mountain men, teamsters etc? They were months away from help! Just break a ankle and you could be history. When you are in the boonies where I go, a cell phone usualy is useless. I guess there is some type sateillight radio phones that are exspendsive available. I have tried walkie talkies in the mountains but most often you are in canyons or terrain where they are useless.
The big thing when you ride in small groups is to try to keep the person rideing behind you in sight. Many times you come to another trail intersection. You should stop and wait so the person behind you see`s which branch you take. It is a big deal as we like to keep a distance back from each other because of eating their dust.
One of my friends that helped lift the quad off us, I was able to "Pay it foreward" three years ago. He and his wife hit a rock just right and put a hole in their oil pan and lost all their oil! I towed them out something like 8 or 10 miles back to our trucks.
If it was safe it wouldnt be quite as much fun!
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Glad you made it back! You are fortunate in having a group.
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Glad you came out of this one OK. I was doing something and simple as checking fence and had one come over backward on me. Fortunatley i wound up in a soft gravel draw and was able to dig my way out.

Turned it over and rode 7 miles home. Went to ER for chest pains.
Crushed sternum.

Din't learn anything. Still put hundreds of miles on each year checking fence, cattle, and rounding up and moving cattle.

I told the family 2 weeks ago that I was hanging up my spurs. They have another week to find a replacement for the physical part. I'm gonna be stuck with the lawyers and the govt for a while, but that too is soon over.

Those ATV's can be deadly if you aren't careful. FerralM. IF it ain' level don't go there, ya hear????
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Somewhere around here, may be on a VHS tape , I have a picture of an ATV flipped over, hanging on a tree limb with an elk on the back.
Happened just north of Roosevelt on some private land we use to hunt. You have some great riding out there in Utah, my wife and I enjoy it a lot.
Glad to hear you are both ok, and yep, good to ride with others.
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It's hard to accept but I'm now 65 but used to ride, hunt, fish etc by myself all the time without a worry in the world. Now that i've had a heart attack and a pinched sciatiac nerve in my back. It makes me want to have someone else along, just for peace of mind as well as commaroderie.
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Iggy says ATV's can be deadly and he is right. Three years ago my next door neighbor turned his over on himself when out in the back pasture. The big nut holding the steering wheel crushed his head. He was dead right there!!. Now I see his ten year old grandson riding that same atv at highspeed all around here. It gives me the willies. I have spent my life flying jet airplanes all over the world and not been scared, but atv's scare me. I have never been on one. Please be carefull, David
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They scare me too. That's why I stick to dirt bikes.
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Been there, done that, and don't recommend it. I'm glad you're going to be OK and hope the aches and pains don't last. Compared with the alternate of staying home and watching TV I'd rather be out riding with you. My dad rode his three wheeler around the Arizona desert until he was 84. It was pretty much the only way he could enjoy the outdoors. Maybe it's time to slow it down a bit but don't get rid of the ATV. Rest up this winter and hit it again in the spring.
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Glad you are both OK.....but don't stop working out!!! Just back off a little and then gradually build back the reps. I promise you in the long run you will be better for it. Just remember that moderation is the key.

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Old 12-01-2011, 12:18 AM
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Utility quads have just gotten to big and to heavy! When you reach a certain size/weight (your Bomb is probably close to 800 lbs wet and unloaded), you need a roll cage so one might as well step up to something like a Rhino. And....IMO when you go to something as big and heavy as a Rhino....well, might as well just go all the way and get a Jeep that is street legal in all 50 states....if you follow my logic.

My rule is to never ride a utility quad anywhere I can ride a 350 pound sport quad. When I must ride a ute (snow or I deliberately go looking for terrifying terrain), the biggest ute's I own are Honda Ranchers, which are around 550 pounds, and that's not so big that I can't pick one up by myself.

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Off road your facts are spot on. However, if we were totaly sensible we would own at the most maybe two guns, never get married, drive a old taurus and live in a old 17 ft travel trailer. With all these toys that overlap into the next stage its difficult as to just where draw the line. 50" width limit for trail gates, limits a lot of trails, but truthfully I could find other areas to ride with a bigger side by side or whatever. You can put as much money in these things as a jeep. But why stop with a jeep? Get a real hummer? Where does it end? Why not a heliocopter?
The wife and I are real heavyweights. We need as big as we can get with muscle. The biggest love of my life is exploring the boonies. Finding the right balance between sensible and fun is debatable. Sensible would be staying home and doing crossword puzzels out of a newspaper out of the neighbors trash can. By the way, my quad is no good at all in deep snow. It will get hung up and just spin all four wheels.
Anyway a 350 aint gonna cut it for us. Maybe two 350s might, but why not just buy one 700?
I am not real sure I want to be strapped into a sxs with a roll cage that I cant get out of in case I roll off a steep mountain or cliff. They must roll like a barrel!
While I do like the power, my main concern with a ATV is as a tool. I also have a plow. I dont use them for rock crawling or raceing competion. To me they are first, a tool to get me and my equipment back in so far that they have to pipe in sunshine.

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Praise the Lord you weren't hurt anymore than you were. I hope your recovery period goes quickly and you are back to your old selves soon. God bless.
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I'm not sure if your wife is willing or able to ride herself....but two smaller quads would mean that you are never riding "alone"! If something happens to one, you can always ride the second machine out. Plus, the smaller machines handle way way better than the big heavy monsters. On my little Rancher 420, I ride circles around my friends who are on their big machines. I easily go where they fear to tread....so I have twice as many trail to explore.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:20 PM
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Well, Feral, I somehow missed this thread. Here you went and almost kilt yourself. Glad your OK and I'd guess the pain is about at its worst now. Common sense isn't something we have a lot of. Besides, going out in the woods is a lot more fun than driving in the city.

So its been a couple of days, what'd the doctor say? I know, ya didn't go.
I don't like 'em either. They always tell me stuff I don't want to hear.

We had a thread here a while back (like years) were we were discussing things like our first aid kits. Someone else here, and I think it was Cajunlawyer, said he'd even got morphine in his. Not a lot, just enough to kill the pain till he can get to an ER. He wouldn't tell us how he got the good stuff. Me, I've got this thing about not ever wasting pain pills. I don't usually take them unless I really need them, and I've been known to stock pile stuff. From my heart surgery I was running a little low on them, and started looking in all my hidey-holes. Found a bottle of Percodan from 1983! Who says I can't keep stuff!

I do a lot of jeeping in southeast Utah, and I bring along what I consider an adequate first aid/medicine kit. I may be dying, but I don't want to die in pain.

As for the sat-phones, they work good, just expensive. I have a jeeping buddy who always has his along. It was for work in the past, and I was impressed. Pretty much, if you can see the sky, it will get signal sooner or later. But at $1 a minute, you don't get gabby. I don't even like carrying a cell phone because the folks that call are the ones I don't want to talk to, and I take vacations to get away from.

My guess is the worst to fear from your little wreck is your wife won't want to go riding. The best way to cure that is to wait about a week and go for a short local ride. Slow and easy, just to get your and her confidence back.
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Dick, your right. We havent went to the doc. We had about 8"s of snow last night and are snowed in. We are sore but okay. I havent bothered shoveling at all as we are suppose to get more. I was too sore to take the quad off the trailer when we got home so the plow is in the garage and the quad is under a mound of snow. At least theresa isnt bugging me to go to the docs gym. We got food so I see no need to go outside and fight the snow just yet, besides whatever I shovel would probley be filled in by tomorrow morning. For now I am going to dance with the one I brung atv-wise. Its paid for. I would like a can am commander, but cant justify the money even if I had it. Another smaller quad would be a option but that would involve a bigger trailer too besides the major cost of another quad. This one is a bear to steer, turn around as its longer etc. I broke the speedo on it, but have less than 4,000 miles on her. It is like driveing a small tank. Never drove a tank. I know theresa will be beating me more on the head than she was. But she always insists on going everywhere I do since we met. Also every girl friend she has rides with us and their husbands.
We joined a ATV club about 8 months ago and it seems I have been drafted to lead most the rides up to now. I am not the leader type, my buddy greg seems to be. So lately I do a lot of planning and give him the info and elect to ride sweep. Outside of being on this site, my next biggest intrest is maps and am always studying them for new trails, mines, historical sites etc.
Years back when I had a flyable airplane, (still have the plane, but it aint flying), I had this scheme of flying over marked ruins on sectional maps. Then later getting into them with quads or whatever. I had quite a few marked over about 4 western states to look at. Actualy, I did try a few things like that. I had a buddy in california that had some ideas about finding some buried tanks that gen patton left on the desert. Actualy a couple were found but not by us. He figured the tanks would trap rain water above them and the vegatation above the buried tanks would be different than around it.
He had me slow fly over suspected areas. We did spot one or two spots that looked good to him and I would find a place to land and we did hike in to no avail. Once I did find a drugger plane, a C-45. I wrote about it here a year or two ago. That was quite a adventure, but not knowing the ropes, mistakes were made and I/we never prophited from it.
When theresa downloads her pictures from that ride two days ago I will post a few. We had inspected a deserted mine just before we crashed. No one took a picture of us pinned, I wish they had. Actualy at one point when they pushed the quad off us I silently did think about it, but didnt think it would be too cool to ask one of the women as theresa was still laying there crying! I took a metal detector along but didnt use it. It and other stuff is still in the luggage box on the quad. Guess I may bundle up and go out there now.
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Hi:
WOW!
Very happy that you and yours are ok.
I was going to inquire about a cell phone but it was already posted.
Also I have been meaning to ask if you had been doing any treasure hunting for old weapons/or other "Stuff".
I think the Forum would be happy to hear you had purchased a "Sky Phone" with sattilite hook up.
We don't want to lose you guys!
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