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My neighbor just came by and showed me a coon lying in his yard, still barely alive. He doesn't own a gun and asked me to dispatch it. We own acreages that are still just barely in town. I thought about using the house gun, a 4" M10 S&W but figured a .22 would suffice. Got my 60 year old Ruger Standard Model .22 pistol loaded with CCI Mini Mag solids.
The coon was lying on it's side, still breathing. I felt kinda bad, cause he was actually kind of cute, but I put a slug through the back of his head. Still kicking. Squeezed off another. Same thing. Now he rolls over, OK, how 'bout side of head. Two more there. He rolls on his back. I put the rest of my available rounds through his chin up through his head. Blood everywhere around him. The sucker is STILL KICKING!
At this point I am out of .22 ammo (I had 8 rounds in the gun) and am wondering if I am going to have to resort to my backup, the M340 PD that lives constantly in my pocket, loaded with full power .357s. Fortunately he stopped kicking shortly after round # 8, and when I kicked him he laid still.
I've never dispatched a coon before. I think next time I'll use a shotgun.
Are these suckers that hard to kill, or were these just "death throes"? If the former, I'm gonna give 'em a wide berth unless I'm heavily armed. SHEESH!!!
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:21 PM
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We own acreages that are still just barely in town.


Lucky you, bum luck would have been for the Law to show up about discharging a firearm in city limits.
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I think HP .22's would have worked better. I gave a neighbor some Yellow Jackets years ago and he said they killed coons fine, but up a tree, and he placed his shots well.

I hope this coon wasn't rabid.
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I think HP .22's would have worked better. I gave a neighbor some Yellow Jackets years ago and he said they killed coons fine, but up a tree, and he placed his shots well.

I hope this coon wasn't rabid.
They are pretty tough and I would not use a .22 unless I had to. As for the rabies issue, that's the first thing I thought of. I hope whomever moved the corpse gloved up first, closed the corpse in a plastic bag before putting it in the trash can or whatever else you did with it, and washed really well after the process.
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Shoot from one ear to the opposite eye. That should be an efficient kill shot in most animals.
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Coons are tough but I've killed several with a 22LR. When I was young we would use a 22 rifle putting a shot directly into the forehead to kill 500 +- pound yearlings for butchering. If you put that 37 or 40 grain bullet in the right place he will be dead.
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Head shots often lead to convulsive kicking for longer than is comfortable to watch.

Just like snakes will squirm for hours even with no heads.

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I'd think one should've done it, I've seen pigs dropped with one to the head from a .22. Could've been death throes, I dispatched a feral cat recently with one shot from a .177 pellet rifle (1000fps) and it did a bit of flopping and jerking but that's not uncommon with head shots.
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I have killed many hogs with an Astra Cub and .22 shorts.I always used a rifle and .22 Long Rifles for cows. A coon can't be as hard to kill as a 400 lb. hog or a 1500 lb. cow. The coon was dead he was just still kicking and you kept shooting. Larry
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All 8 rounds at the same time MAY have done it!
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You apparently haven't done much killin'. That coon was dead on the first head shot. Unlike the movies, head shots result in lots off involuntary muscle action.

I killed two coon raiders off my back deck this year with one head shot apiece from a .177 pellet rifle. They both twitched a lot.
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A few years back, I had a coon living under my roof. For a few weeks I tried to live trap her, but mostly caught neighborhood cats. One day I caught her out of doors, on top of the roof. My neighbor, a carpenter who had once been a left-handed pitcher in the Astros farm system, thought he was going to get her with a thrown hammer. He missed a couple of times, but managed to chase her down off the roof. She scurried down my arbor vitae and ran up into a big elm tree.

I borrowed a .22 rifle from another neighbor. Discharging the firearm in my municipality is illegal, but it was worth the risk of a ticket to get rid of that coon. My first two shots hit the branch she was sitting on, which screened her pretty well. The third shot dropped her about 50 ft. out of the tree and into my yard. Shot in the head up through her throat, I am pretty sure she was dead when she hit the ground, but she thrashed for a minute or more.

She left a bunch of babies under my roof. I could hear them crying off and on for a day or so before they went quiet. They smelled for a while, but not too bad or too long.
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My neighbor just came by and showed me a coon lying in his yard, still barely alive. He doesn't own a gun and asked me to dispatch it. We own acreages that are still just barely in town. I thought about using the house gun, a 4" M10 S&W but figured a .22 would suffice. Got my 60 year old Ruger Standard Model .22 pistol loaded with CCI Mini Mag solids.
The coon was lying on it's side, still breathing. I felt kinda bad, cause he was actually kind of cute, but I put a slug through the back of his head. Still kicking. Squeezed off another. Same thing. Now he rolls over, OK, how 'bout side of head. Two more there. He rolls on his back. I put the rest of my available rounds through his chin up through his head. Blood everywhere around him. The sucker is STILL KICKING!
At this point I am out of .22 ammo (I had 8 rounds in the gun) and am wondering if I am going to have to resort to my backup, the M340 PD that lives constantly in my pocket, loaded with full power .357s. Fortunately he stopped kicking shortly after round # 8, and when I kicked him he laid still.
I've never dispatched a coon before. I think next time I'll use a shotgun.
Are these suckers that hard to kill, or were these just "death throes"? If the former, I'm gonna give 'em a wide berth unless I'm heavily armed. SHEESH!!!
Jim
That was a zombie coon. You may have thought he was dead when you kicked him but he'll be baaaack!! Nothing less than a .300 Ultra Mag will work on a zombie coon. Even then you'd need to burn the carcass and scatter the ashes..
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They are pretty tough and I would not use a .22 unless I had to. As for the rabies issue, that's the first thing I thought of. I hope whomever moved the corpse gloved up first, closed the corpse in a plastic bag before putting it in the trash can or whatever else you did with it, and washed really well after the process.
I met a guy that trapped pest animals (you need a license for this) and he live-trapped a raccon. When he put it in his truck (still in the cage) the coon spit and some of the spit got in his eyes. The raccoon was rabid and he had to go through the rabies series of shots (painful).

I've read that rabies has the highest mortality rate of any known disease that affects humans and other mammals.

Rabies has an almost 100% mortality rate. Only one person who got rabies has been known to survive. The rabies shots you get after a bite are a rush job of immunization, it is not a treatment for the disease itself.
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That was a zombie coon. You may have thought he was dead when you kicked him but he'll be baaaack!! Nothing less than a .300 Ultra Mag will work on a zombie coon. Even then you'd need to burn the carcass and scatter the ashes..
That was my thought too. However from what I know about zombies, which is a lot since I have an 18 year old son, all it takes is one good head shot.

I was also concerned about rabies as this was the middle of the afternoon. My neighbor said he would dispose of the carcass, so I hope he knows that too.

I figured it was death throes, but in all the hunting for upland game I've done over about 35 years, nothing has ever been that active for that long.
Hope he doesn't have ticked off relatives though.
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It was just twitching while dead. Last fall I was walking around my FIL's farm and had my .41 mag on my side. Was hoping to see a hog but ended up spotting a coyote about 30yds away. I put one round (iirc I had 280gr cor-bon hunting slugs in it) through the yote's head. It bounced in the air then twitched for 30 seconds or so.
Just the nature of the brain shot.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:07 PM
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Mother Nature ain't no video game. It's a mean world out there if you ain't use to it.

Them nature show with lions and zebras and sharks and seals don't hold no attraction to me. I can do what I gotta do, but I shore ain't gonna watch it for entertainment. I've seen enuff.
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I met a guy that trapped pest animals (you need a license for this) and he live-trapped a raccon. When he put it in his truck (still in the cage) the coon spit and some of the spit got in his eyes. The raccoon was rabid and he had to go through the rabies series of shots (painful).

I've read that rabies has the highest mortality rate of any known disease that affects humans and other mammals.

Rabies has an almost 100% mortality rate. Only one person who got rabies has been known to survive. The rabies shots you get after a bite are a rush job of immunization, it is not a treatment for the disease itself.
I'd read the usual rabies warnings, but what really chilled me was David Lindsey's novel, "A Cold Mind", in which a demented killer used rabies virus to kill about 16 people before being caught. The author did a lot of research, even describing how the villain obtained and processed the virus, and the book is one of the scariest that I've read. The symptoms were covered in grim detail. And it is grim...

It was published in the 1980's, but some libraries and used book stores have it. Well worth a read, if you like coldly realistic, plausible crime novels. The cast is well done, and it's set in Houston, TX

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Years back, early one cold morning I and a GF were gonna go somewhere. I tried to fire up the truck and it just went--thunk! By reaction I hit the starter again and it stirred up some awfull sounds! Yup, a cat was on the engine! I raised the hood and the GF threw the cat on the ground. It was a awful sight, it`s face about half sliced off and yoweling and flopping around. The GF yelled at me to shoot the cat, but we were in town. Finaly I dispatched the cat shooting it twice with my model 60. For some reason thats when the GF really lost it and was screaming loudly as I shot. I noticed doors flying open up and down the street with neighbor housewives standing there in their robes to see who was getting murdered!
Anyway she setteled down and called the sheriffs dept and explained. They never did drive out.
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My neighbor just came by and showed me a coon lying in his yard, still barely alive. He doesn't own a gun and asked me to dispatch it. We own acreages that are still just barely in town. I thought about using the house gun, a 4" M10 S&W but figured a .22 would suffice. Got my 60 year old Ruger Standard Model .22 pistol loaded with CCI Mini Mag solids.
The coon was lying on it's side, still breathing. I felt kinda bad, cause he was actually kind of cute, but I put a slug through the back of his head. Still kicking. Squeezed off another. Same thing. Now he rolls over, OK, how 'bout side of head. Two more there. He rolls on his back. I put the rest of my available rounds through his chin up through his head. Blood everywhere around him. The sucker is STILL KICKING!
At this point I am out of .22 ammo (I had 8 rounds in the gun) and am wondering if I am going to have to resort to my backup, the M340 PD that lives constantly in my pocket, loaded with full power .357s. Fortunately he stopped kicking shortly after round # 8, and when I kicked him he laid still.
I've never dispatched a coon before. I think next time I'll use a shotgun.
Are these suckers that hard to kill, or were these just "death throes"? If the former, I'm gonna give 'em a wide berth unless I'm heavily armed. SHEESH!!!
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Oh The Carnage!!!!
Guess I missed that one when it was originally posted, good for a belly laugh. Thanks for the link!

This is a good thread about indoor pest control from the Colt forum - http://www.coltforum.com/forums/loun...ble-eagle.html
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We've had a coon problem for years here. The lady that lived down the road had more money and heart than she had sense. She took it upon herself in her last years to try to feed every stray cat there was. Problem being coon's enjoy dining on cat food, so this area was infested.

I had a problem that my dad had instilled the idea of a clean sportsman like kill. I've since shed myself of such foolishness. If its a problem critter, I don't care if it lives or dies, as long as it does it someplace else.

Take note that once you sever the head from the neck, we'll just call the critter dead. Anyway, the old lady's gift to the area was way too many cats and coons that know food is at houses. When we first moved down here on the flatlands (1995), coons were all over. We came home, the motion detector light came on, and there were glowing eyes all over the neighbors roof! Kind of fun to see, but also a hint there would be trouble.

A few nights later I was sitting my my recliner and the light out back came on. I walked out through the kitchen and found a big ole coon distributing my garbage all over the deck. I don't have a real strong sense of humor, so I went downstairs, opened the safe, selected a M63 for the job (selection of firearm is important), found some ammo, and loaded the gun as I walked up stairs. Before I went to get the gun I'd opened the door twice to shoo it away, and both times it charged. With a gun in my hand it started its charge before I even yelled. So I shot it. Just a 22 solid along the centerline. I aimed for the head and think that's where the bullet hit, but it didn't matter to me. It turned, staggered off the deck, and I never saw, heard, or smelled it again. If it died, fine. If it learned its lesson and left town, that's OK, too.

When I was a young boy I was tree-rat hunting. It was a warm autumn day and the leaves were drying in the sunshine. Not an ideal day for moving about, but I was young and dumb so I was doing my best at sneeking. All of a sudden the leaves a few feet away started rustling. I looked and saw the last thing anyone wants to see up close. It was a copperhead (they will sometimes rattle like a rattlesnake, only they don't have the buzzer.) So I did what any onery American boy would do, I shot it. With a 20 gauge, in the head. Well, that 20 with the squirrel load (probably #6) surgically removed the first 6" of snake. Do snakes have necks? I'm guessing head, neck, and the first few inches of body (if snakes have those.) But that critter was so mean it kept on rattling for a good long time. My hunting partner came running at the shot (he wasn't doing much good either.) It'd been 5 or 10 minutes. His first comment was "shoot it again, its still kickin'"

Now I've got a good healthy fear of snakes, or the bad kind. You can call it respect if you've got an overdose of pride. I'm just skeered of the poison kind. But my fear was all gone, just like the snakes head. Its fightin' parts had vaporized. With coons, and particularly the kind that might have rabies, the bad parts don't go away with dismemberment. Worse, if there's blood and tissue, the local cats and other scavengers might come for dinner and take away more than you want. In incorporated areas, its why you pay taxes. Let the animal control folks handle anything that's doing strange stuff.

Coons eat garbage, so I really doubt one doin' what comes naturally is going to have any bad disease. But I'd still rather it waddles off to die elsewhere.
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Selecting the correct firearm is half the fun.
I too am partial to the Model 63 for sentimeltal reasons, although the 317 kit gun is a close second. Anything centerfire is a bit of overkill and the racking of my 870 really does nothing to the four legged criters-It DO have the intended effect with da two legged ones though
Possums are fairly easy. Whack them with a stick (or if you've been drinking kick them) and then pick them up by the tail. Throw them where you want to-I like to throw them over the fence of my neighbor with the ^&%$ chickens.
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From personal experience, though only a single event, a .22 caliber short behind the ear of a po'd possum in a liver trap only makes them spit up green bile and hiss at you. A .38 Special wadcutter on the other hand does a fine, but messy, job.

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Possums are fairly easy. Whack them with a stick (or if you've been drinking kick them) and then pick them up by the tail. Throw them where you want to-I like to throw them over the fence of my neighbor with the ^&%$ chickens.
I would say, that depends on how much you have had to drink and how tough the possum is. Way back when, a friend and I decided we were going to hunt possums for their hide. It seemed like a great way to offset the cost of drinking as They were worth a dollar something a piece at the time. One possum didn't want to sull even when hit with a stick and kicked several times so (they tell me) I shot the possum six times with a .38, then we still had to kick Rasputin the Possum several more times and dunk him in the creek before he died out.
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