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Old 12-27-2011, 10:08 PM
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I've recently found an Interarms Walther PPK in stainless for sale at the local pusher's place. Nice gun, at least 98% with little evidence of firing, plus box, papers, and both magazines. Chambered in .380. My question is, before I drop $500 bucks on this, what are some of y'all's experience with these? Lots of internet gun experts out there seem to like them, lots seem not to. I know there are LOTS of .380 choices out there, but I'm just kinda jonesing for one of these, and are seeking thoughts.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:19 PM
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Can't tell you anything other than my experience with an Interarms, SS, PPKS in .380 that I've had for over 20 years now.

I've never had a FTE or FTF and I've used it for a conceal carry weapon off and on for all the years I've had it. It seems to cycle hollow-points just as well as roundball ammo (others have had problems with their PPKS, so I'm told). I don't have extra large hands so I've never had a problem with the slide biting the web of my hand that seems to happen to some folks.

In short I've had a good experience with mine and plan on using it for another 20+ years.

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Is it a PPK, or a PPK-S you are looking at? There is a difference, mainly that a PPK is a pocket-sized pistol, whereas a PPK-S, not so much. The PPK-S was made to satisfy the 1968 GCA requirements. I owned an Interarms .380ACP PPK-S in stainless steel for a while. Neither my wife or I have large hands, but that sucker would definitely bite your hand (the slide). It's pretty heavy for a small gun, in my opinion, and being a blowback design, the recoil is pretty stout. Mine went full-auto on me at the range - that was exciting, but thankfully brief (3-4 rounds). The factory fixed it for free, but wouldn't tell me what was wrong with it, nor what they repaired or replaced. I traded it off for a H&K PSP, which had been on my grail gun list for a long time.

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Old 12-27-2011, 11:20 PM
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I've recently found an Interarms Walther PPK in stainless for sale at the local pusher's place. Nice gun, at least 98% with little evidence of firing, plus box, papers, and both magazines. Chambered in .380. My question is, before I drop $500 bucks on this, what are some of y'all's experience with these? Lots of internet gun experts out there seem to like them, lots seem not to. I know there are LOTS of .380 choices out there, but I'm just kinda jonesing for one of these, and are seeking thoughts.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:31 PM
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I've got an Interarms PPK/S that I picked up about a year ago. It was in excellent condition and went for $375. $500 sounds a little high to me for that firearm. It's been 100% reliable the 3 or 4 times I've had it to the range. Good tight groups at 10 yards, too. It will bite the web of your hand where you grip it if you grip it too high. After my first range trip with it, I took the slide off and rounded some sharp edges on the bottom of the slide where it travels over your hand.
I bought one of the new S&W PPK/S when they first came out. They extended the beavertail on theirs which helps with the slide bite. I sold it to a co-worker that wanted it more than I did at the time for $375. I can understand your jonesing as I eventually had to have another.
I did order a Wolff spring kit and lightened the heavy trigger up a bit.
In regards to the PPK vs. the PPK/S, all dimensions are the same except the PPK/S grip is 1/2 inch longer to accommodate one extra round. That extra 1/2 inch translates to an extra 1.6 ounces in weight.
Most folks I know either love them or hate them. I'm pretty fond of mine.
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I've carried a stainless Interarms PPK/S for 10 years or so as a BUG and off duty concealed carry. As with most fixed barrel blowback operated handguns, mine has proved to be very accurate and it's reliable (after I weeded out some magazines).


I'd originally bought it for my wife, but she could not pull back the slide so I ended up keeping it for myself. It's a good carry gun, but in .380 ACP it's not much fun to shoot. I have to do a 50 round qualification with it twice a year and it is very unfortable to shoot and if I'm shooting more than a magazine at one session I have to wear a shooting glove. I usually carry Federal Hydra-shok or Winchester Ranger SXT jacketed hollow points and I've not had any problem with feeding.

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Old 12-28-2011, 12:17 AM
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The one I'm looking at is a PPK. I'm like you; I think the PPK/S is too large for pocket carry. I know $500 sounds high to me too, but good 'ole Gunbroker is showing most of theirs at close to that for opening bids.
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Another Interarms 380 ppk owner. Very accurate and reliable if gripped firmly. As previously noted, the rear underside of the slide can bite ya. The underside of the trigger guard is also sharp, and use a support hand underneath, instead of in front. For me it is a little on the large and heavy side for a pocket pistol.

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Old 12-28-2011, 02:41 AM
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Seeing as how Bud's gun shop sells them for $507 NIB including shipping, the price seems high. Also, some companys are now making 9mm pocket guns about the same size and weight, such as the CM-9.
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Old 12-28-2011, 06:35 AM
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I have an Interarms SS - PPK-S that I bought new in 1999. I would agree with all the above postings regarding the gun, and you have a good review of the guns merits, and problems with all the postings.

I used mine as my carry gun when I was still working, and did not want it to show at all. It just disappeared in the front pocket of a pair of Dockers. I never found it to be too heavy, because I like steel guns, but the plastic 380s that are being made today are a lot lighter.

With that said: everyone needs a PPK or PPK-S in their collection. It is a classic gun.

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Old 12-28-2011, 07:15 AM
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The Interarms PPK's have held their asking price at $450-$500 for the last 15 yrs.. I've had a couple I managed to pay less than that. If you want one for carry, as mentioned, there's now a lot of better options.
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Old 12-28-2011, 07:20 AM
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in the early 80s, carried it a lot, and shot it a lot, never a problem or a complaint about the little pistol. It was a blue steel version and I put a set of ivories on it which made a pretty good looking combo.

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Old 12-28-2011, 09:22 AM
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I have two , a blue steel PPK/S and a stainless PPK. Both have been very reliable and some of the most accurate guns I own. Went and looked, one is still loaded with old Super-Vel ammo. Might need to update.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:51 AM
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I've got a stainless Interarms PPK 380. It used to cut me. The bottom of the cocking serrations on the right side of the slide acted like a saw. A little Dremel work - maybe a 64th, maybe a 32nd of an inch off the bottom. No more cutting.

I've heard, and read, for years how the PPK will only feed ball. Hates hollowpoints. Mine eats Silvertips like they were M&Ms.

I bought mine used, and found that it would not fire the ammo that came with it (half a box of Magtech). I thought that it might have gotten contaminated, and saved them to pull the bullets. Then I found that it was very inconsistent at firing my reloads. Changed from a CCI primer to a Winchester and the problem went away. Later I replaced the mainspring, and discovered the old spring was at least 4 coils shorter than the new one. I'd never got around to pulling the bullets on that Magtech ammo, so gave it a try. Wow. It worked.

So it works fine. Aside from the minor design problem (cutting) and the minor gun butchery problem, both of which I solved, it has never let me down.

I buy PP or PPK/S magazines, as spares. They are exactly the same, except one bullet longer. They stick out of the grip a little, but I don't carry them in the gun. The carry mag is a 6 rounder, but my reloads are 7s.
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I buy PP or PPK/S magazines, as spares. They are exactly the same, except one bullet longer. They stick out of the grip a little, but I don't carry them in the gun. The carry mag is a 6 rounder, but my reloads are 7s.
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My Interarms PPK will feed Pow'r Ball and Hornady Critical Defense without a hiccup, but use a short nose FMJ and it will jam every time. Once I got through the teething problems, it's been 100% reliable (and I bought it from a member of this Forum!).
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I've had my Interarms PPK well over 20 years. It has never had a function problem with any defense round such as Hydra-shock or Gold Dot and others. It carries well for me. I am left-handed and lucked into a suede Bianchi horizontal shoulder holster. (It is hard walking into a place and finding left-handed holsters for guns you happen to own!). It is very comfortable and quiet on the draw.

When I first saw the stainless PPK I knew I had to have one someday. I don't remember exactly what I paid new, but over 20 years ago it was in the $400.00 neighborhood. They are apparently holding their value.

I know there are more modern, lighter small guns in heavier calibers, but I will not be replacing my PPK with one. Along with an Airweight 442, the PPK is a frequent carry gun.
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Safearm, I love that little PPK! You wouldn't want to sell it off to a friendly Forum member in your neighboring state, would you? Viceunit, I too, am left handed, and feel your pain regarding holsters.
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Got a PPK/S in 380. Love it and will never part with it.

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I looked at the gun Mark and it is near new. I wish I knew a place in Alabama where I could buy an Interarms Walther with all the paperwork and box like new for $350 or $375. I've had mine for at least 20 yrs. and have never had a ftf or a pinch from the slide. I guess every person holds their gun differently and the ones who have problems are always ready to tell the bad points. Try to get them to go lower on the price if they will but if you really want one, buy it. You know you will eventually end up with one anyway!!
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$500 OTD would be top dollar that I would pay for a PPK. I'd go in at $400OTD and go from there
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I looked at the gun Mark and it is near new. I wish I knew a place in Alabama where I could buy an Interarms Walther with all the paperwork and box like new for $350 or $375. I've had mine for at least 20 yrs. and have never had a ftf or a pinch from the slide. I guess every person holds their gun differently and the ones who have problems are always ready to tell the bad points. Try to get them to go lower on the price if they will but if you really want one, buy it. You know you will eventually end up with one anyway!!
I nabbed this one in Sept. 2010 for $375 plus sales tax at my LGS.
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My wife had an interarms .380 and had a problems pulling the slide back. She gave it to me along with a smith & Wesson 38 special & a Taurus 9MM. I have since bought her a S&W body guard .380. We were at the range yesterday & we both wanted to shoot the old .380 ( I'd never shot it before ) so I started loading the mag with hollow point rounds. You can get one hollow point in the mag & when you push the second one in it jams the first in the mag where it almost impossible to get back out. These were the only rounds she had for it so we didn't get to fire it. The extra clip that came with it was missing the spring & 2 bottom clips. When we got home I switched the cases I on the two & still had the same problem. Is there anything I can do to be able to use these hollow points & ball? I'm just like the second round in this mag, IM STUCK!

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Ball is a better round for a small 380.

Hollow Points don't really expand at slower muzzle velocity.

Search for member ERICH, he has a thread on his 380 ammo tests.
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A couple years ago I saw an early 90s blue Interarms PPK/S for sale for $450. The exact gun I was looking for. I offered $400 then got it for $425 with ammo. I love this little gun and it shoots great. $500 for a stainless one is excellent. If it in fact is a smaller PPK then that's better, though I like the longer PPK/S grip personally. Either way, I'd snag that.

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I had an early Interarms PPKS in .380 and I never had any feeding problems with it, and it always functioned just fine. My only regret is I sold it many years ago.
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Got a PPK/S in 380. Love it and will never part with it.

I had one just like this one about 15 years ago, had zilch problems and loved using it. The only thing I didnt like, was the cheapo black plastic case it came in. You could even put the case in your pocket.
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I had one just like this one about 15 years ago, had zilch problems and loved using it. The only thing I didnt like, was the cheapo black plastic case it came in. You could even put the case in your pocket.
This one came in the older thinner squared off plastic case. With target of course... Not form fitted for the gun but you couldn't put it in your pocket.
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Is it a PPK, or a PPK-S you are looking at? There is a difference, mainly that a PPK is a pocket-sized pistol, whereas a PPK-S, not so much. The PPK-S was made to satisfy the 1968 GCA requirements. I owned an Interarms .380ACP PPK-S in stainless steel for a while. Neither my wife or I have large hands, but that sucker would definitely bite your hand (the slide). It's pretty heavy for a small gun, in my opinion, and being a blowback design, the recoil is pretty stout. Mine went full-auto on me at the range - that was exciting, but thankfully brief (3-4 rounds). The factory fixed it for free, but wouldn't tell me what was wrong with it, nor what they repaired or replaced. I traded it off for a H&K PSP, which had been on my grail gun list for a long time.

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I have owned several Walther PP, PPK, PPK/s pistols and understand your desire to own one. It's faults have been stated in previous posts, as well as many positive comments. I own the one below because it belonged to my F-I-L, and it actually works. It is an 85 year old design. If you want a handgun for a CCW there are plenty of better, more modern design choices in the same overall size and weight categories that fire more powerful cartridges, and cost less money. This PP is nearly the same size as a S&W 3913.

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Seeing as how Bud's gun shop sells them for $507 NIB including shipping, the price seems high. Also, some companys are now making 9mm pocket guns about the same size and weight, such as the CM-9.
Looked and didn't find one for that price. Found one there for $600 cash, $615 with the card.

WAL 2246001 PPK SS 380 $597.00 SHIPS FREE

This is a PPK not the PPK/S, it commands a bit of a premium. $500 isn't unreasonable. Maybe get it down to $450 or so but I see them sell for $450 in top condition without the box and extra mag. The Interarms version also sometimes gets a slight premium as a collectible over the NIB versions (not more money, just more than a used non-Interarms).

Haggle a bit, but my view on buying anything is I won't pooch a deal on something I want over a small percentage. With no shipping etc. and you walk out the door and are done I don't see that as a bad price. It's at least in the ballpark.
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The lowest price Gunwatcher.com is showing for the PPK is $572.25. The PPK/S is going for as low as $341.84 in 22LR.
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I carry an Interarms stainless PPk in .380 during hot weather and wearing light clothes. I've never been bitten (have average size hands) and its completely reliable and deadly accurate. I stake my life on it and its not for sale. $500 seems to be about the going price for the stainless Interarms model.

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I had the PPK/s about 30 years ago. It was a lemon. I and anyone else who shot it had the magazine drop out while shooting. I took it back to the gun shop I bought it from and they told me I was hitting the mag release. I was not. They said they tested it and could not make it happen to them. They were known to not be the most honest and I stopped going to them after this.

This type of thing can happen with any gun. The thing about all PPK style guns with me is they cut 2 groves on top of my hand during recoil. Bad enough to bleed. So even though I like the idea of the PPK, I avoid them because of the cutting issue.
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This one came in the older thinner squared off plastic case. With target of course... Not form fitted for the gun but you couldn't put it in your pocket.
Mine was in the cheapest of cases one could come in making it feel like a small box of crayons. I could put the entire thing in my back pocket in the blue jeans I wore then. Now im mostly more casual wearing gym clothes. Those pockets are so deep, I can easily put a 45 in it. :-))

Now that ive seen the pic you posted, I want another. :-))

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I only have a 1937 PPK in 32acp left and shoot it occasionally. I really like the pistols (PPk, PP) and owned many over the years. A pre Interarms PPk in 22lr was a favorite carry for 35yrs.
I should have kept at least one of the like new police turn in German PP pistols in 32 that we bought for $89 in the box w/spare mag and papers!

I never had the pistols cut my hand at all. But many people do have the problem with them. You won't know till you try one out.

The .380s bark pretty good. The recoil is quite noticable in either the PP or the PPk. I'd guess the PPK/S as well though I never had one of those editions.

Interarms import era pistols are generally good functioning, but there are bad ones in the lot.
Pre-Interarms are somewhat better finished and smoother it appears at least to me.

When they started the stainless mfg'r, some were down right crude and rough compared to earlier steel mfg. They improved a lot.
It's kind of like back and forth comparing pre-war or 50's mfg SW to an 80's/90's mfg SW.
They both can work well enough, but you get to appreciating the earlier workmanship and feel.

Probably better choices for a pocket auto pistol. But I still like 'em.
I just bought a Mauser 1914. Not the best choice for a pocket auto pistol either. But I like it,,and it's one I can still pull the slide back on.

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I have two , a blue steel PPK/S and a stainless PPK. Both have been very reliable and some of the most accurate guns I own. Went and looked, one is still loaded with old Super-Vel ammo. Might need to update.
I bought a brand new PPK/s in 1973 shot nothing but 88 grain Super Vels in it cause I didn't know any better. Never had an issue it cost $125 brand new. The Super Vels were about $10.00 a box as I remember. But that ammo and gun were a classic combination.
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Looked and didn't find one for that price.
My post was from 12-27-2011, more than 2 years ago. Prices change over time.
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The webbing between my right thumb and index finger healed within a few days, and the scar is barely noticeable.
Mine did the same thing to me. I took a mill file and rounded off the sharp edges of the bottom of the slide. Followed that up with some fine grit sandpaper and cold blue: Problem solved.

(I've got a lot of carry wear on mine, it's not a collector's item. Unless I become famous for something. )
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This one came in the older thinner squared off plastic case. With target of course... Not form fitted for the gun but you couldn't put it in your pocket.
That guy that keeps that sling shot in your back yard could probably fit the case in his pocket.
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I had a PP that I carried as a backup. It rode in the inside pocket of my cruiser jacket. I had it Armalloyed and never had to worry about it. Wish I still had it.
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I've only had a PP. German made. Had a few stovepipes (32 acp) and a few failure-to-feed (hollow points).

Try a Bersa. Excellent. My wife went from the PP to a Bersa and never looked back.
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I have owned several Walther PP, PPK, PPK/s pistols and understand your desire to own one. It's faults have been stated in previous posts, as well as many positive comments. I own the one below because it belonged to my F-I-L, and it actually works. It is an 85 year old design. If you want a handgun for a CCW there are plenty of better, more modern design choices in the same overall size and weight categories that fire more powerful cartridges, and cost less money. This PP is nearly the same size as a S&W 3913.
You are of course right about the 3913....However S&W no longer makes the 39 series for some reason...The PPK and PPK-s are still in production..Imagine that??????
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Looked and didn't find one for that price. Found one there for $600 cash, $615 with the card.

WAL 2246001 PPK SS 380 $597.00 SHIPS FREE

This is a PPK not the PPK/S, it commands a bit of a premium. $500 isn't unreasonable. Maybe get it down to $450 or so but I see them sell for $450 in top condition without the box and extra mag. The Interarms version also sometimes gets a slight premium as a collectible over the NIB versions (not more money, just more than a used non-Interarms).

Haggle a bit, but my view on buying anything is I won't pooch a deal on something I want over a small percentage. With no shipping etc. and you walk out the door and are done I don't see that as a bad price. It's at least in the ballpark.
Agree-w/first paragraph-$500 for an IA PPK w/box and papers, both mags is not bad at all for GB, GunAuction.com and certainly not bad for some online stores(like Cabelas)that sell them-these usually go for $650-750(like someone said, the PPK usually commands a higher price than the PPK/S).

But the best deals I've seen were from from local sellers via Armslist or a local gun forum-in the $450-475 range.

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