Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > The Lounge

Notices

The Lounge A Catch-All Area for NON-GUN topics.
PUT GUN TOPICS in the GUN FORUMS.
Keep it Family Friendly. See The Rules for Banned Topics!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-17-2012, 10:05 PM
Stevens's Avatar
Stevens Stevens is offline
Member
Falling  .45  
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Posts: 3,458
Likes: 3,441
Liked 3,766 Times in 1,540 Posts
Default Falling .45

a couple of years ago I found this in my Cardiologist's parking lot. It was the weekend after the 4th of July so I guess it was from some celebratory holiday gunfire. There is a "bad neighborhood" a couple of blocks away, probably from there.
It seems to be a .45 cal. My theory is that it was tumbling as it fell back to earth and the corner hit the concrete first.
What do you all think? Besides "he's lucky he wasn't standing under it when it came down"
Steve W
Attached Images
File Type: jpg bullett 1.jpg (18.9 KB, 219 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-17-2012, 10:12 PM
Gunslinger808's Avatar
Gunslinger808 Gunslinger808 is offline
Member
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Florence Arizona
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 458
Liked 3,828 Times in 1,106 Posts
Default

IMHO:
I don't think if it was "tumbling" it would have distorted that badly, having lost all it's inertia on the way up, it would have fallen like anything else and bounced.
Looks more like a ricochet.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-17-2012, 10:24 PM
m1gunner m1gunner is offline
US Veteran
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: middle Ga.
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 211
Liked 610 Times in 301 Posts
Default

The wear looks more like it got stuck in a tire tread for a while and eventually got tossed out.

I have seen other metal objects lodge in heavy tire tread lugs and get worn like that.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-17-2012, 10:33 PM
Stevens's Avatar
Stevens Stevens is offline
Member
Falling  .45  
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Posts: 3,458
Likes: 3,441
Liked 3,766 Times in 1,540 Posts
Default

The copper jacket is definitely "squished" not worn at all,
It seems to me a ricochet would show damage on the forward part of the bullett?
It has rifling groove marks so at some point was fired.
sorry, the picture doesn't show much detail.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-17-2012, 11:06 PM
mtb1bkr mtb1bkr is offline
Member
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 1,115
Likes: 0
Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts
Default

I think it looks like someone was shooting their gun in the hood, probably holding it sideways and jabbing with the gun to get an extra few feet per second of velocity, the bullet looks like it had a nice bounce off of the pavement shortly after leaving the gun. He must need to adjust the side sites on his gun.
__________________
US Marine, 16 years+
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-17-2012, 11:13 PM
Muley Gil Muley Gil is offline
US Veteran
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The SW Va Blue Ridge
Posts: 17,539
Likes: 89,848
Liked 24,925 Times in 8,532 Posts
Default

"The wear looks more like it got stuck in a tire tread for a while and eventually got tossed out.

I have seen other metal objects lodge in heavy tire tread lugs and get worn like that."

I agree.
__________________
John 3:16
WAR EAGLE!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-18-2012, 12:09 AM
handejector's Avatar
handejector handejector is offline
Administrator
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 27,019
Likes: 8,997
Liked 48,766 Times in 9,261 Posts
Default

I think it fell, but it was not tumbling.
Possibly fired at a high arc, and still travelling horizontally when gravity pulled it down.
Show us a pic of the base.

Several years ago, I found a 30 cal bullet in my driveway that had landed on the nose.
Probably from the very popular triente-triente. I forget if it was after New Year's or Cinco de Mayo.
About 20 feet from the house, 10 or so from where I park.
__________________
Regards,
Lee Jarrett
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-18-2012, 12:36 AM
A10's Avatar
A10 A10 is offline
SWCA Member
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sadly, Seattle WA
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 22,917
Liked 10,361 Times in 4,298 Posts
Default

I think the only way it could be a ricochet if is the round was tumbling very badly. Is the jacket scraped or just smashed?
__________________
Even older, even crankier....

Last edited by A10; 01-18-2012 at 12:38 AM. Reason: typo
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-18-2012, 01:10 AM
venomballistics's Avatar
venomballistics venomballistics is offline
Member
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: between beers
Posts: 8,889
Likes: 4,778
Liked 6,940 Times in 3,309 Posts
Default

looks like the flat side was a coarsely ground off section.
I'd go with the jammed in tread theory as the most likely delivery method
__________________
it just needs more voltage
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-18-2012, 09:14 AM
Stevens's Avatar
Stevens Stevens is offline
Member
Falling  .45  
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Posts: 3,458
Likes: 3,441
Liked 3,766 Times in 1,540 Posts
Default

here are a couple more shots of the bullett, the grooves are still visible on the indentation. I believe if the indentation was from wear they, and the jacket, would have been worn off?
opinions welcome
Steve
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 45 falling 002.JPG (27.6 KB, 46 views)
File Type: jpg 45 falling 007.JPG (39.1 KB, 45 views)

Last edited by Stevens; 01-18-2012 at 09:40 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-18-2012, 10:26 AM
Rule3's Avatar
Rule3 Rule3 is offline
Member
Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45 Falling  .45  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 22,087
Likes: 10,799
Liked 15,514 Times in 6,800 Posts
Default

Clearly fired ganster style, fell to the ground and then lodged in 22" tires with spinners.
__________________
Still Running Against the Wind
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Sky is Falling or is it just the weathermen around here? Oldiron The Lounge 15 03-31-2016 07:04 AM
S&W SD9VE Pin falling out NavalOps Smith & Wesson SD & Sigma Pistols 21 09-09-2015 12:37 PM
HELP! S&W Bodyguard falling apart... tarteman Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 31 04-16-2013 09:03 AM
Falling in love with a 620 S&W1006 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 3 04-15-2013 10:52 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:04 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)