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Old 05-05-2012, 06:08 PM
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I've been to the doctor twice in three weeks.Second time was for a follow up. First time was because I hadn't been keeping my appointments for a while and hadn't taken my BP medication for some time.
The first visit BP was 132/70. Second time it was 130/70.
Not real great,but doc says nothing to be concerned about and don't worry about the medication anymore unless it started to go up. I also told him that my acid reflux had not bothered me in a long time,only when I eat something really spicy like my wife's chili.
He said to forget that medicatkion also for the time being.
Fine with me,I feel ok. I'm a small guy and I had lost from 175lbs. to my old fighting weight of 165lbs. in six months.
I had found that taking one of the 0.25 mg generic xanex
really gets me a good nights sleep and stops racing thoughts.
I didn't want sleep meds,so I had to lie and tell him"Doc,I gotta lot on my mind and I need some help."
Bingo. Got what I wanted. I know what works for me.

But,you know what gets me? Those instructions on prescription bottles. Take one tablet by mouth daily.
Take one tablet BY MOUTH daily! C'mon! I mean where else ya' reckon they think we might put those things?
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It would probably scare the devil out of us if we knew the ridiculous reasons companies have been sued because of the stupid ways people have misued their products. What is common sense to you and me seems to escape some that are less intelligent. By spelling it out in great detail, at least to some degree, they've got their bases covered in case some idiot felt they didn't work because he thought they should be inserted like a suppository. We live in a time where no one accepts blame for their own stupidity. Spilled hot coffee comes to mind.

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But,you know what gets me? Those instructions on prescription bottles. Take one tablet by mouth daily.
Take one tablet BY MOUTH daily! C'mon! I mean where else ya' reckon they think we might put those things?
You'd be surprised. In my clinic we often give very specific instructions about various things from prescriptions to follow up care. I wish I had a dime for person that called back or checked back in a couple days later because they forgot or didn't follow the directions and are complaining because they're not better.
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We live in a time where no one accepts blame for their own stupidity. Spilled hot coffee comes to mind.
That was the first one that popped into my mind and is a classic.

Another would be the propensity of some to snort a certain type of whipped
cream topping, or whatever it is. From what I could tell it sounds like they're
after the buzz from the aerosol gas in the can? Who comes up with these things??
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A little off topic, but I have a PWC that has a warning not to put body orifices up to the water discharge jet.
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It would probably scare the devil out of us if we knew the ridiculous reasons companies have been sued because of the stupid ways people have misued their products. What is common sense to you and me seems to escape some that are less intelligent. By spelling it out in great detail, at least to some degree, they've got their bases covered in case some idiot felt they didn't work because he thought they should be inserted like a suppository. We live in a time where no one accepts blame for their own stupidity. Spilled hot coffee comes to mind.
I guess all of you are right. I've been retired a little while,I guess I forgot how stupid some people are. How stupid of me.
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I take care of my wife-to-be's cars, and I'll never forget the instruction in the owner's manual for manipulating the headrests in one of her vehicles: "To raise the headrest, push it up." Every now and then that will come up in our conversations, and about every time we both laugh until there are tears in our eyes.

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I'll never forget the time in jail when the nurse hands this eighteen year old kid a suppository (nicknamed the Silver Bullet because they are a grayish color). He asks the nurse what to do with them because he said they looked like they would be hard to swallow. I was elected to tell him where they went and even which end of it went first, I also pointed out a couple other inmates that could best help him with his problem.
I too have had problems with pain meds, my docs prescribe it and I can't take it. They gave me Lyrica for the pain in my arm, it made me so loopy that 12 hours after taking it I had the intellect of a zombie from the Walking Dead, next up was Neurontin which did not even put a dent in the pain. After the surgery I just had they gave me percocet and the pain is manageable, because within 30 minutes of me taking it I am no longer awake, but when I do wake up it takes at least thirty minutes to clear the cobwebs. Not to mention I can't drive while on this. It doesn't really help the pain alot either (mostly nerve pain as I was told so it wont but that nice long incision would probably hurt worse without it.)
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But,you know what gets me? Those instructions on prescription bottles. Take one tablet by mouth daily.
Take one tablet BY MOUTH daily! C'mon! I mean where else ya' reckon they think we might put those things?
Have you seen the warning decal on a chain saw? You would think some things are really obvious, but apparently there are people missing fingers or hands who convinced a jury that they didn't know the blade was dangerous, and needed a warning.
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I mean where else ya' reckon they think we might put those things?
C'mon, you really have to ask. I have seen all manner of pills ground up and snorted or ground up and injected.

Long term abusers who turn their oxycodone (or other narcotics) into solution to inject get the neatest looking CXR (chest x-ray). It is full of all of these little spots that are granulomas from the cellulose that is used as a binder in the pills. Their veins take a pretty good beating from the impurities also.

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This is startin' to get kind of scary.
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Smoke a Quaalude 714. Believe it or not I've seen it.
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how bout the sleeping pill ads on TV that tell you not to drive after taking it. DUH I have some old Ruger 3 screws with the original owners manual. One page folded in half printed on both sides. The manual for the new guns is about 40 pages.
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A person needs to read the printouts that come with their medicine about the side effects and such. My Dr. gave me Patches to wear with pain medicine in them. The pamphlet that came with them said not to wear them if you sleep in a water bed because the heat from the mattress could cause the patch to release all the meds at once and you could die.
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More people are croaking on prescription meds than the illegal stuff. Go to the doc with pain and you're very likely to leave with a script for Lortabs, Xanex, and Soma or possibly even Oxycontin. Some folks have found that you can feel better faster if you ground the stuff up and injest it by swallowing,snorting,smoking, or using a needle. Wash it all down with a few beers. It seems the problem comes when they forget how much pain killer they have used and have trouble counting the Somas, which is a muscle relaxer. Then the big muscle, the heart, gets too relaxed and quits working. We see them frequently. I'm sure it's a big problem nationwide but I don't have any info on the statistics. The last one I saw was a 20 year old melted down and injected some methadon gel not realizing it would re-gel at body temperature. The plumbing got clogged up. They took him off of life support a week later.
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Now that could be bad!!!

We had a couple of low-life, scum-sucking, sorry excuses for human beings here in Spokane that were working different nursing homes and stealing the pain patches from the residents. Oh, not the patches in the pouch waiting to be put on, but the patches the elderly were already wearing. (so, just where is that puking smiley?) They would freeze the patch and then scrape off the gel with the meds in it to ingest, either orally or smoke it. If you cant wait for the patch to freeze you can just chew it up.

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David, I'm a type 2 diabetic and the doc prescribed lyrica for the pain in my legs and feet. After one of the hurricanes blasted through here was driving my tractor and cart picking up all the branches and stuff. Loopy was not the term I would describe. More like a career drunk on a good night out. Had to literally hold myself up leaning against the tractor. So stopped taking them. Called the doc to let him know about it and he wanted to know how long I was taking them. Ever curious me asked why. Doc says you could have had a stroke. Good thing it was only two days. Dangerous stuff. I read and hear about possible side effects of some of these drugs like stroke, heart failure, cancer. Jeeze I'll suffer what I have because the cure sounds worse than the problem. Frank
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David, I'm a type 2 diabetic and the doc prescribed lyrica for the pain in my legs and feet. After one of the hurricanes blasted through here was driving my tractor and cart picking up all the branches and stuff. Loopy was not the term I would describe. More like a career drunk on a good night out. Had to literally hold myself up leaning against the tractor. So stopped taking them. Called the doc to let him know about it and he wanted to know how long I was taking them. Ever curious me asked why. Doc says you could have had a stroke. Good thing it was only two days. Dangerous stuff. I read and hear about possible side effects of some of these drugs like stroke, heart failure, cancer. Jeeze I'll suffer what I have because the cure sounds worse than the problem. Frank
I am also a type 2 diabetic with foot and leg pain. Last Friday my doctor prescribed GABAPENTIN 100MG. 2X daily.

It works but I feel like a Zombie. Is anyone taking sonething for this pain that doesn't leave you feeling bad?
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We're all familiar with those collapsible car window shades, the ones that we place under the windshield to protect from the sun. I found one with a warning "Do not operate vehicle with shade in place". I once asked a lawyer about these warnings and he explained every one of them is a result of someone's abuse of the product. Think about that for a moment and imagine some of the stupid things people have done.
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If you watch the Ads on tv for any kind of prescription
drug these days half the one minute commercial is about the
side-effects related to taking the meds. "Possible side effects
are", this that and the other. Kind of scary.
The one that always makes me chuckle is the one for, "I believe"
Cialis where they tell you if an erection lasts for more than 4-5
hours call a doctor. Heck with that i'm calling every ex-girlfriend
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I am also a type 2 diabetic with foot and leg pain. Last Friday my doctor prescribed GABAPENTIN 100MG. 2X daily.

It works but I feel like a Zombie. Is anyone taking sonething for this pain that doesn't leave you feeling bad?


my sis in law is taking it... doesnt do it to her and she takes 300mg 4xdaily.. but i was taking it and it made me the same way as u.
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This brings to mind a good story I heard in Pharmacy School. A guy was prescribed a suppository for his hemorhoids. The Pharmacist forgot to tell him how to use them. A few days later the guy came back into the drugstore and the Pharmacist asked him how the suppositories were working for him. The guy looked at the Pharmacist and said "For all the good they have done I may as well have shoved them up my a__! The Pharmacy professor that I had that told this story said to never ASSUME that the patient knows how to use anything. Always label it properly AND explain it properly. A good Pharmacist will explain everything to you. If he or she doesn't, go to another Drugstore.
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I would say that 130/70 for BP is VERY GOOD.

I don't know where you got the 'not great' idea. It's just about text book perfect.
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They still make that stuff? I thought that with all the abuse potential it went Bye Bye a couple of decades ago. Sort of a Viagra precursor IIRC.
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When I attended college in the seventies, I had to take two courses in commercial law. The very first case studied was one in which a man took a gasoline-powered lawn mower, and attempted to use it for trimming hedges. He picked up the mower while it was running. While trimming, he lost control, and ended up losing fingers on both hands. He sued the manufacturer, claiming there was no warning about using the mower as a hedge trimmer. Manufacturer lost in civil court, and on appeal.

The preceding was just one in a number of product liability cases we studied that semester; and most all involved the utter stupidity of the user or consumer.

Now you know why power mowers have "dead man's" throttles.

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I know how old you are or the condition you're in, but I am nearly 63 years old and my BP is, on average, 107/60. I think your BO is OK.

Now do not drop dead tonight and prove me wrong. OK? Are you my friend? OK, do not drop dead, understand? :>)

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David, never heard of that medication. I occasionally do take tramadol but you are only supposed to take it 2x a day. My wife was on lyrica and
one night started acting like she was out of it. Turned out she had taken lyrica and that was the cause. From the various posts it definitely affects folks in different ways. Neither she or I take it anymore. Frank
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I know how old you are or the condition you're in, but I am nearly 63 years old and my BP is, on average, 107/60. I think your BO is OK.

Now do not drop dead tonight and prove me wrong. OK? Are you my friend? OK, do not drop dead, understand? :>)

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How do you know what his "BO" (body odor) is like? Have you ever smelled him?

BTW, my BP is usually 128/70. One doc told me that I'd chosen my parents well. But I do wish that they hadn't had allergies. Next time, I'll watch out for that when picking parents. And I'll try to get a mother who doesn't detest guns.
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I find the act of getting up just slows me down when getting away.
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After finding out about the wifes afair I hit her friend several times. Had a Dr. appt a few days later and BP was off. Told him the story. He says you need this depression med. I have a great Dr. . But I went the other way on the meds. I finally quit cold turkey before my back surgery last week. Yes I still have depression but at least I can function as a half wit human most of the time.
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Take one tablet BY MOUTH daily! C'mon! I mean where else ya' reckon they think we might put those things?
you haven't really surfed the web much ... have you
over the years Ive seen things out there that I just wont name nor link to ... suffice to say theres a good handful of very sick people who think they are normal and its best not to put ANYTHING past them
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Orally is one of the least effective means of taking medications. It is, however, the most socially acceptable as giving yourself a suppository while sitting at the office desk might be frowned upon.

Same with smoking. And smoking a Lemon 7 pill??!! Arrgh... Some people's kids...

Sublingual (under the tongue) like for nitro tablets, is also very effective. Orally also gives the pharmacutical company the ability to do time-release medications.

I do not understand people's fascination with popping pills. I take none. I can't remember the last time I took an asprin. Abusing pain-killers only negates their benefits for use when one needs them most, like say a compound fracture while on expedition...

I've had several family members just about kick the bucket when their doctor prescribed a new cholesterol or high blood pressure med that is supposed to be enhancing their quality of life - not killing them...

Our grandmother basically went on a downhill slide after she ended up in the hospital and the Dr. changed all her meds around. Lasted less than 6 months... Yep... Rx kills.
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I have an understanding with my Doctor. If there isn't a generic for my meds, don't prescribe it. Between the Drug Companies and the Food & Drug Administration, I think they all ought to be in jail. The list of warnings is so long now on most new drugs, they spend most of the commercials on that. Most of the new stuff is being recalled because of the bogus reports used to approve them anyway. I figure if it's been on the market long enough to go generic, it should be safe, or at least as safe as it's going to get.
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And why are Rx commercials even allowed on TV? $$$ in advertising to media, no doubt. If big tobacco can't advertise, why can big pharma and hard liquor companies?

Especially with all these anti-smoking ads on TV right now. "Well, I lost my legs, arms and throat to smoking but I'm doing great with my Capt. Morgans and Viagra!!!" Absurdity is what has run rampant.
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