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Looking for magazine fed .410ga Shotgun
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I'm looking for a magazine fed .410 ga shotgun. All I know right now is the Russian Model "Saiga" which I don't consider to buy.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you
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Mossberg 500
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I think the OP meant "removable" magazine.
Saiga is the only one I know.
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What don't you like about the Saiga?
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I have an old Stevens 38B bolt action with a three shell box mag.
and I'm pretty sure Mossberg made some also
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IIRC, there was an upper assembly and magazines for the AR15 that would shoot shotgun shells. Do not remember the gauge.
There was also an Enfield that was a .410 shotgun. It was mag fed.
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I only know of the customized Krebs Saigas in 12 gauge. Pricey, but word is they're dead on reliable like an AK.
Welcome to Krebs Custom - Custom Rifles
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I think Century Arms is showing some 12 gauge AR looking guns.
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What don't you like about the Saiga?
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It's Russian... that's all!
Thank's guys, I will check them out. Appreciate it
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Safir Arms Makes the .410 AR upper. Here is a link from Gunblast.com, this is an evaluation that was written up. Safir Arms T-14 .410 Shotgun Upper for the AR-15
That is the only one I know of. Just as a heads up though, most American Companies have their weapons parts manufactured in foreign countries. It takes a little bit more work to find a completely American Made firearm that is newly manufactured. Saiga's are top notch, no doubt about it.
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Safir Arms Makes the .410 AR upper. Here is a link from Gunblast.com, this is an evaluation that was written up. Safir Arms T-14 .410 Shotgun Upper for the AR-15
That is the only one I know of. Just as a heads up though, most American Companies have their weapons parts manufactured in foreign countries. It takes a little bit more work to find a completely American Made firearm that is newly manufactured. Saiga's are top notch, no doubt about it.
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If I understand Jorge's mindset and post right, he objects to Russian items, not just foreign-made things in general.
Despite the Spanish first name, I think he came here from Germany.
WW II and the Cold War left scars that will take some time to heal.
But I doubt that most major US gun companies use foreign parts. FN has a plant in S . Carolina that now makes Winchester products, but I think the guns are all made there.
In Europe, some parts made in Belgium by FN are assembled in Portugal, but the work seems first rate. ( Browning.)
Which other major US makers do you think are using foreign parts, and where did you learn that? Not being hostile; I'm just curious.
Of course, if you're talking about companies that build assault type weapons from imported parts, I understand you. But if you mean mainline makers like Colt, Ruger, Remington, S&W, etc., I doubt that it's true.
Springfield uses many Brazilian parts, but they seem honest and upfront about it. And they source those from Itajuba Arsenal, not some questionable unknown outfit.
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If I understand Jorge's mindset and post right, he objects to Russian items, not just foreign-made things in general.
Despite the Spanish first name, I think he came here from Germany.
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Correct and correct
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Safir arms Discontinued that a LONG time ago...
they do make the whole gun, but I don't know if it is imported here.
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Had to get out the 4473 book for that one, I remembered a fellow had a semi auto .410 shipped in that looked like an AR with detachable mag.
Google up the Akdal MKA 1919 shotgun.
Right now they're only in 12 gauge, but a .410 is supposed to be out soon.
ETA:
ATI was supposed to be making one too.
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Thank you very much Gentlemen
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It's Russian... that's all!
Thank's guys, I will check them out. Appreciate it
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After "Red Jacket" is done with them,
i guess it's not much Russian left
http://www.redjacketfirearms.com/ind...emart&Itemid=3
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Spain don't have an exclusive on the name Jorge.
Unless it's pronounced Hor-hey.
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jorge, here is my "assault" .410 bore. marked westernfield and made by mossberg a long time ago. haven't figured out how to mount the bayonet lug yet, either liquid steel or a hose clamp. lee
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Originally Posted by Texas Star
If I understand Jorge's mindset and post right, he objects to Russian items, not just foreign-made things in general.
Despite the Spanish first name, I think he came here from Germany.
WW II and the Cold War left scars that will take some time to heal.
But I doubt that most major US gun companies use foreign parts. FN has a plant in S . Carolina that now makes Winchester products, but I think the guns are all made there.
In Europe, some parts made in Belgium by FN are assembled in Portugal, but the work seems first rate. ( Browning.)
Which other major US makers do you think are using foreign parts, and where did you learn that? Not being hostile; I'm just curious.
Of course, if you're talking about companies that build assault type weapons from imported parts, I understand you. But if you mean mainline makers like Colt, Ruger, Remington, S&W, etc., I doubt that it's true.
Springfield uses many Brazilian parts, but they seem honest and upfront about it. And they source those from Itajuba Arsenal, not some questionable unknown outfit.
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I hate to say this, but check the slide on every new Springfield Semi Auto Pistol.
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Unless it's pronounced Hor-hey.
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That's how it's pronounced, yes
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jorge, here is my "assault" .410 bore. marked westernfield and made by mossberg a long time ago. haven't figured out how to mount the bayonet lug yet, either liquid steel or a hose clamp. lee
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That looks really nice. Is it accurate?
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Made in Croatia? Yep... I don't buy this stuff either...
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Georg, Gee-org
Jorge, ???
Now I'm really confused. How about some help and background.
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The old bolt action Mossberg was a real pain to get the second shot off when shooting clay
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jorge, it is very accurate. full choke holds the 3" #4s nice and tight out to 30 yds. that's the fartherest i've shot it. rolled mr o'possum right up. forresth is right about follow up shots, but i didn't get it for "rapid" fire. also the mag is not detachable. fed from the top with the bolt open. lee
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Georg, Gee-org
Jorge, ???
Now I'm really confused. How about some help and background.
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Well, my wife is half mexican and none of her friends could pronounce my first name. So after everybody was trying and laughing I ended up with "Jorge" which was given to me... And yes, it's pronounced "Hor-Hey."
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jorge, it is very accurate. full choke holds the 3" #4s nice and tight out to 30 yds. that's the fartherest i've shot it. rolled mr o'possum right up. forresth is right about follow up shots, but i didn't get it for "rapid" fire. also the mag is not detachable. fed from the top with the bolt open. lee
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That is great. I keep looking on GB...
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Well, my wife is half mexican and none of her friends could pronounce my first name. So after everybody was trying and laughing I ended up with "Jorge" which was given to me... And yes, it's pronounced "Hor-Hey."
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Thanks, That makes sense.
Sorry about the thread drift,
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Thanks, That makes sense.
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Springfield XD's are made in Croatia. Not the 1911's. Frames made in Brazil, there. I think everything else is US made.
Is Hor-Hey just looking for a simple bolt action, box fed 410?
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Is Hor-Hey just looking for a simple bolt action, box fed 410?
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Well, a bolt action, box fed shotgun would work just fine.
Just don't like the single shot ones...
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what about a remington 870 or 1100?
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Honestly, I'd go with a Mossberg 500 pump, but the utility bolt action 410's were pretty common at one time. Most folks know how useful they are and don't give them away. I did find one about 7 years ago for $86 (Stevens marked Coast to Coast, a hardware chain). They can be found.
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Thank's 35Rem, I will look out for one. If not I guess I will stick with Mossberg...
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jorge, here is my "assault" .410 bore. marked westernfield and made by mossberg a long time ago. haven't figured out how to mount the bayonet lug yet, either liquid steel or a hose clamp. lee
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Hose clamp. Use two.
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XD are only imported by SA not made by or outsourced by. Just imported. Croatians were very much on the German side of WW2.
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I was going to get a Saiga .410, and still might, but
I heard that leaving the magazine loaded could distort
the shells and then they won't load in the chamber.
The constant spring pressure presses on the plastic shell casing.
I don't have one, so I can't say for sure.
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