Smith and Wesson Model 617

[Jotjackson]

What would be a fair price for a Model 617 6" with wood grips and the original box and paperwork? It is in excellent condition.

Thanks in advance,
Jerry

[Engine49guy]

I am guessing your talking about a pre lock 6 shot gun?
If so IMO its a $650 to $700 gun.

[Jotjackson]

Thank you for your thoughts.

Jerry

[PMRet]

If it's a 617 no dash with factory combat grips, box and papers, you're probably looking at $800 or more in today's market.

[civil1977]

If you can, tell us what dash it is as this affects value greatly.

[Jotjackson]

I will check for the "dash" when I get home tonight. Thanks for all of the information.

Regards,

Jerry

[WNC Seabee]

I sold a 617-0 recently that was in excellent condition with original combat stocks for $675. I did not have box/papers.

[410bore]

The prices have been up there as of late...i sold a 617-0 8 3/8" with combats but no box/papers on GB last week for $1,000.00. Sold it to fund another purchase.

[M3Stuart]

"Holy guacamole batman!!"

Those are some high prices for a gun you can get from Bud's for under $700...NEW. Ok, it has the lock, but other than that it's a comparable gun. In my mind, the 'new' price would create some kind of price ceiling.

[AveragEd]

Not necessarily. A current production piece will have MIM parts, a 10-shot cylinder, a round butt and possibly a canted barrel in addition to the lock. They aren't making all-forged, six-shot, square-butt, no-lock 617s any more so like-new no-dashes are actually worth more to an S&W enthusiast than what they're making today.



I'll take my two 617-0s over any new one, thank you just the same. You don't find factory stocks like those on any current-production gun.

Ed

[PMRet]

Originally Posted by AveragEd

They aren't making all-forged, six-shot, square-butt, no-lock 617s any more so like-new no-dashes are actually worth more to an S&W enthusiast than what they're making today.
Ed

Ed hit the nail on the head...

[Jotjackson]

I just checked the gun. It is a 617 with no dash. Mine looks like the top gun in AverageEd pics.

[jimmyjoe]

Originally Posted by Jotjackson

I just checked the gun. It is a 617 with no dash. Mine looks like the top gun in AverageEd pics.

I have one of those no dash 617s. I think I payed $650 for it.
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[snubbiefan]

IF you can find one around here....the going rate for the ND 6-inch with box and papers would be $800 or better. The naked gun....around $700. They ask as much as close to $1000 on GB, but I'm not sure what they are actually selling for. I would think closer to $800-$850. The 4-inch barrel generally commands a higher price. These are no-dashes.....not Bud's new guns.

I have a 10-shot all stainless NL in 8-3/8 dress.......wish I could get $1,000 for it like 410 did for his ND. I can't sell it for $850. Get lots of lookers but no takers.

[Jotjackson]

Thanks for all of the information. I really appreciate it. Helps me make a better decision.

[MakeMyNight]

Looking back, I paid $329 plus tax for My (then new) 4" 617 no dash with factory combat grips.....circa 1992.
That gun is My favorite S&W revolver, hands down, and I'm soooo glad that I spent the precious cash at that time.
My only regret is that I didn't buy the 6" barreled 617-0, equipped with TT & TH & CS, also offered to me at that same time-frame.

Here's My gun, (though not shown), I've swapped the flash chromed combat trigger & hammer over to forged, color cased, target hammer & .400 smooth combat trigger:

[David Sinko]

I have a -1 with 4" barrel that I bought new a long time ago. I can't remember what stocks came with it, but I'm pretty sure they were not combats. Was it supposed to have combats? It's the best revolver that I don't use anymore.

Dave Sinko

[Nightowl]

I got one last summer with box and wood grips for $800 and was glad to get it. I have not been the least bit sorry about the price either. It was the newest used gun I think I ever bought! It shoots very well and I don't find the underlug barrel a hinderance as some do. I like the balance, but then I shoot full six N frame 627 a lot.

Go for it!

[Stregavet]

This is a great forum and thread. I have just joined.

I recently (7/26/2012) purchased a new 617-6 with a ship date from factory of 6/26/2012 - so one month old as of the purchase date. Pretty new!

Had some trouble sighting in from a rest and thought the sight had a bad picture, but couldn't figure it out until I noticed the obvious - the sight and barrel clocked to the left - just a few degrees, but noticable. How the heck did I miss that?

I took it to the gunsmith at the range for examination and he claimed; (I am paraphrasing here to the best of my recollection) "the barrel was "over-torqued" - either by poor procedure, or ignoring proper tolerances in the barrel to frame fit - in the threads or thread stop. Or they are tweaking out their errors. Seen this lots of times recently, but I won't work on guns that are not manufactured correctly." He also noticed that the bore was not as finely machined as he would expect it to be. "They most likely compensate for the poor machining by canting the barrel." His advice: "Send it back and get it straightened out no matter how much effort it takes."

I am in the process of returning it. Hope it does not take a lot of "effort". Worries me that this is not a new problem by any means. You folks have been rocking the boat for a long time - and I just got a new revolver out of the factory with the same problem? Is anyone listening? Cost me almost $800 out the door - and this is S&W and made in the USA!

Sure hope I can provide a good response to this forum thread in the very, very near future.

jm.02 Nice to meet you.

[jack the toad]

Originally Posted by AveragEd

A current production piece will have MIM parts, a 10-shot cylinder, a round butt and possibly a canted barrel in addition to the lock. They aren't making all-forged, six-shot, square-butt, no-lock 617s any more so like-new no-dashes are actually worth more to an S&W enthusiast than what they're making today.
I'll take my two 617-0s over any new one, thank you just the same. You don't find factory stocks like those on any current-production gun.

+1
Although the new stuff the factory is currently producing may shoot as well even with canted barrels, I don't buy it.
To those that do, that's great. Leaves more of the older guns for me.

[VaRecon]

I may be alone in this argument that any 617 is a good 617.
The one in question however, is more desirable and I would pay about 700 for it.

[steamloco76]

Originally Posted by VaRecon

I may be alone in this argument that any 617 is a good 617.

Have to agree with you 100%. I have an original 617 no dash 8 3/8ths full target options purchased new in 1990 for $299. She is a fabulous shooter, then again, so is my 2008 era 4 inch ten shot 617-6 I purchased used last year for $549. I wouldn't sell either one now.

[fyimo]

There is a real market for the no dash 617 especially if it has the S&W wood combat grips and if it has the box and paperwork it will bring top dollar.

617 no dash with 4 inch barrel

617 no dash with 6 inch barrel

[Chatt69chgr]

Are there any laws that would prevent Smith and Wesson from making a "new" no-dash 617? Surely they read these forums and must understand that a lot of folks just don't want the "improvements"---from what I've seen there are just not enough of the originals to go around. I bet that there are lots of folks that would pay a premium for something like this. Just seems like they are missing a good business opportunity. They could sell these through their Classics line.

[Camster]

Originally Posted by M3Stuart

"Holy guacamole batman!!"

Those are some high prices for a gun you can get from Bud's for under $700...NEW. Ok, it has the lock, but other than that it's a comparable gun. In my mind, the 'new' price would create some kind of price ceiling.

Yeah,except the new gun will come with $15 Goodyears, and the no dash 617 will have $125 worth of wood.
However,I still think the 650-700 neighborhood is more in line than the 800 plus mentioned.I like new,perfect stuff,(yeah,noting that many new ones don't come perfect)and unless the old one was pristine,I'd opt for new and put my own grips on it.

[Frank237]

A like new 617 no dash with box went in a short time the other day for $750 and I'm sure SEVERAL members upon seeing that sale were unhappy. I know I was. It had TREMENDOUS combat's.

You can wish all You want but the early guns WILL command more than a later gun. Simply the way it is.

Want to see crazy prices for 617's? IF you can find one check out the NO LUG guns. I think they made 116 or so six inchers, and 200 of the 4" guns.

A 6" recently went for $1650 on GB, and it was a used gun, NO box. A member recently mentioned a NIB pristine 6" gun with an asking of $3800.

$800 starts to look like a bargain.

FN in MT

[Avery11]

It seems to me that some guys love to either give false expectations of the market or post 90s prices while remaining elusive about exactly when the gun was purchased.

Sure, someone will no doubt be along with a 4" no dash new in the box and will have paid a bud $300 for the gun and a brick of ammo, but that's not the real world - it's an exception. I like a deal as much as the next guy, but I like guns too. And if I wait around trying to match these one in a thousand bargains, I'll be waiting a long time.

I play the odds. I pay fair market value or a little less depending on how bad I want it and if I come upon a steal - great. If not, I'm still shooting. Two weeks ago I snapped up a very early 617 ND 4" with box, papers and combats for $790 shipped. That is a realistic price and I conisder it a great deal. It has the best DA pull of any gun I own - even my wife loves it. I plan to shoot this thing as often as I can.



The other day, I tried throwing $500 at the target and it grouped all over the place. My absurd $800 revolver does a much better job. You don't have to like it, but if want the gun, you gotta pay up, Sucka.

OP - not less than $750. A little less for the good ol' boys if you hoc it here.