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Just got done reading that the predictions are increasing for Hurricane Sandy (or what's left of it) to hit the mid-Atlantic/Northeast. Noted it could turn into one major Nor'easter...brining rain, high winds and heavy snow in some areas.

I am well prepared...so will just wait and see. My kids wondered about Halloween and I told them that on more than one occassion I walked through snow getting candy when I was a kid in Nebraska. I thought it was cool.
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I am keeping a worried eye on it. We have lots of old growth trees in the state, storms like this make them fall over and take the power lines with them. It can take a week or more to get power back.

Last year at the same time this storm will be here we had a snow storm. I recall about 90% of the state went dark. We were out 7 or 8 days.

We have been lucky as non of our trees have come down, just some branches.

My generator is getting tired ( its a cheap junky china special) it burns oil and shuts down on low oil every ten hours or so. Its does have several hundred hours on. I think I will buy a new one today, a bit nicer.

This storm has a bigger problem in that it will be high tide, fall tide, full moon, no add in the storm surge and they are thinking it will be worse than the 1992 (3?) Nor'easter.

I am hoping it just blows out into the ocean...
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Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

This is one storm I am not concerned about for our area. It must be a whole different ballgame that far North to have to worry about Ice and snow. Here if we have no power we just sweat a lot, it's way different being cold.

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I dont see the bid deal. Im in PA not far from the coast (Jersey shore is on about 60 miles away). Last Sept we had a hurricane and were without power for two days. Worst that happened was we were all kinda bored. Nothing to do.

I remember the snow and ice storms of 94 & 96 where everything was closed for weeks. You were lucky if you could get out of your street. Again nothing happened
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I'm about 3 miles from the Jersey Shore and remember well last year when we got hit, so not taking any chances. Lots of old growth trees and above ground wires so it's may get interesting.
But I love weather so I can't wait......
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I am keeping a worried eye on it. We have lots of old growth trees in the state, storms like this make them fall over and take the power lines with them. It can take a week or more to get power back.

Last year at the same time this storm will be here we had a snow storm. I recall about 90% of the state went dark. We were out 7 or 8 days.

We have been lucky as non of our trees have come down, just some branches.

My generator is getting tired ( its a cheap junky china special) it burns oil and shuts down on low oil every ten hours or so. Its does have several hundred hours on. I think I will buy a new one today, a bit nicer.

This storm has a bigger problem in that it will be high tide, fall tide, full moon, no add in the storm surge and they are thinking it will be worse than the 1992 (3?) Nor'easter.

I am hoping it just blows out into the ocean...
Tom, I was at Costco in Brookfield the other day, they had a Generac XG7000E for $999. The unit is American made and the price is excellent.
The worst snowstorm we had last winter was in late Oct, looking like a repeat.
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Well, if this ain't an excuse to get another revolver, I don't know what is!!

I hope the storm holds off long enough to allow me to get to this weekend's gun show.

What caliber should I consider, since it is still early in the storm year, I am thinking rimfire, maybe 4"??
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Thanks for the heads up.
That is a good unit, I will see if I can get one tomorrow.



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The worst snowstorm we had last winter was in late Oct, looking like a repeat.
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Our youngest son, who lives with us and is an Electrical Lineman,
is heading east tomorrow morning, to New York to dial it in better.

He said that they must expect a big one because
there are far more calls for storm work than the norm.

At least you can rest assured that crews will be heading your way, like those
from Michigan, so if you do get hit hard they will have extra crews ready to rock.

The last big storm our son worked was, Ike, down in Texas.
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A friend of mine is a lineman here in Michigan, and gets sent out all over whenever a damaging storm hits.
I've seen the pictures of all the damage they have to repair, crazy.
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Trust me, Sandy can kick up a fuss.
That's Missus P&R Fan's first name, and, boy, when she gets worked up, WATCH OUT!!!!
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Well I can say to all the linemen from Michigan, THANK YOU!!

The storm before last thats who restrung the wires on my street!!

The last storm, was the Halloween snow storm, so many pole snapped that they ran out of them and had to wait a day until more arrived.
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I don't believe the snow part of it. I guess opening day for smoke poles is gonna be a washout this year.
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It's like the old joke. What's the difference between a hurricane and a divorce (pronounced deeevorce) in the deep south. Nothing, either way someone is losing their mobile home.
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The latest news is it's gonna be a big"MESS" for a lot of people. (Their words) The Hurricane part expected to hit in the NY Jersey area but the long term problems of rain wind and sleet or snow inland expected to last for some time and cause a lot of damage.

Just grey and windy here today and more expected for tomorrow.

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My hat goes off to all the linemen. Here in Florida we know it well.
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I dont see the bid deal. Im in PA not far from the coast (Jersey shore is on about 60 miles away). Last Sept we had a hurricane and were without power for two days. Worst that happened was we were all kinda bored. Nothing to do.

I remember the snow and ice storms of 94 & 96 where everything was closed for weeks. You were lucky if you could get out of your street. Again nothing happened
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Man it was exhilirating!!!!

Bring on "Sandy" and all the PARTY...

Just funnin, our wives left us too......

Kiddin, Sandy, Randy, ya get what ya pay for....

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After the July storm I got most of the trees surrounding me trimmed back. I've got the generator fueled with back up cans of gas (sta-bil going in tomorrow), the yard buttoned down, I'm picking up the weekly grocery order tomorrow and beer on the way home. Best of all I'm off til Tuesday night. I'm as set as I can be to shelter in place 8 miles in from the shore here in the peoples republic of new jersey.
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Tom, I was at Costco in Brookfield the other day, they had a Generac XG7000E for $999. The unit is American made and the price is excellent.
The worst snowstorm we had last winter was in late Oct, looking like a repeat.
The XP series is American made- Wisconsin. The XG and GP are not, if i remember correctly.
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The bug-out bags, tools & special safety equip. have been
loaded into the truck and Ian, our son, is now heading east.

I'm sure that the "bug-out" process is/has been going on across a number of
states by those who will be coming to a utility pole, or bucket truck, near you.

Hopefully, for those in the path of Sandy, the storm , it won't be as bad as predicted.
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You missed the PARTY!!! All the HOT Babes came up here and released their pent-up frustrations....
Man it was exhilirating!!!!

Bring on "Sandy" and all the PARTY...

Just funnin, our wives left us too......

Kiddin, Sandy, Randy, ya get what ya pay for....

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The XP series is American made- Wisconsin. The XG and GP are not, if i remember correctly.
It's a bit confusing, and I haven't researched the others, but the XG series is American made. The spec's:


Model Model Number 5798 Made In USA Yes Rated Watts 7kW Surge Watts 8.75kW Rated Amps 29.2 Surge Amps 36.5 Voltage 120/240V Single Phase Enclosure None Features Starting System Electric/Recoil Backup Low Oil Alert Low Oil Shutdown Idle Control Full Speed Receptacles 120V
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We grow, cut, process, store, and ship the poles down here. We've got plenty of them to send up there. It might take a day or two though.
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That's Missus P&R Fan's first name, and, boy, when she gets worked up, WATCH OUT!!!!
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Same here. Misty's real name is Sandy. You wanna get her stired up? Just mention "the floozy Susie". She'll make this storm look like a box fan and a garden sprinkler.
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My hat goes off to all the linemen. Here in Florida we know it well.
If I recall it was PIKE Electric from NC who had trucks all over the place and saved our butts after several storms. In addition of course to our excellent crews but there was just too much.
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I subscribe to an automated alert system from my county's Emergency Operations Center. Here's the text of the phone call and e-mail I got a little while ago:

"Good Morning, this is Emergency Manager Rick Ayers with a hurricane warning message. I want to emphasize the potential for a very dangerous situation for Harford County. The main impact for our county will be Sunday night through Tuesday, when we could have sustained Tropical Storm Force Winds and Hurricane Gusts of 80 MPH. The potential for major flooding along the coast and inland is also a concern, with rain amounts expected between 6 and 12" and higher in some areas. The possibility of a major storm surge along the Chesapeake Bay will occur if the hurricane makes landfall near mouth of the bay and a storm surge of 4 to 8' is possible. The County EOC (Emergency Operations Center) is activating today to make necessary decisions for the safety of our citizens. However, at this time you the citizen need to be pro-active. Make sure you have your cell phones entered into our Emergency Notification System, by going to our website Harford County Maryland - Emergency Operations Center and click "sign-up now" or call 410-638-4900. Make sure that you have a 3-day supply of water and canned foods for your family, have a battery operated radio and extra batteries. Although we will have shelters available, if you live in an area prone to flooding, please consider a plan to relocate to a safe area. I can't stress enough: this is a major storm and take this serious. Thanks and be safe."

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Overhyped... While I remember Isabel (that did some damage to my property), I can remember what they said about Irene last year. "Gloom and doom" stories make for better ratings, so that's what you hear on the TV and radio. Heavy rain and some blustery winds is what I'm thinking, here where I live.
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Overhyped... While I remember Isabel (that did some damage to my property), I can remember what they said about Irene last year. "Gloom and doom" stories make for better ratings, so that's what you hear on the TV and radio. Heavy rain and some blustery winds is what I'm thinking, here where I live.
Overhyped?....Why of course it is but you have to concede the it's a large storm that covers many states each with it's own unique problems ie:barrier islands, low lying coastals,flood plains etc. Add to that the fervor that the weather men/women display during times like this and overhyped is an understatement. But I lived through several devastating hurricanes living in the Caribbean and wished someone would have overhyped those events so that I and my neighbors could have at least have the choice to heed or ignore it as "overhyped".

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As of the noon newcasts are saying we're going to get a "major wind event" with winds even stronger than Hurricane Irene. We had several trees blown down in my neighborhood with a huge oak falling on my neighbor's home across the street. It took a crane to get it off the roof. I just hope it keeps petering out and goes out to sea. Power outages ain't fun. You can't get on this forum if your 'puter don't work.
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Overhyped... While I remember Isabel (that did some damage to my property), I can remember what they said about Irene last year. "Gloom and doom" stories make for better ratings, so that's what you hear on the TV and radio. Heavy rain and some blustery winds is what I'm thinking, here where I live.
This is the problem. Every storm seems to be "THE STORM OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and the end of civilization. It's like the weather forecaster who cried wolf.

People will only react to that for so long and then they become lax and don't prepare. That of course is the time when we have a real storm.

It pays to look at the National Hurricane Center website, because it's hype free.
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This is the problem. Every storm seems to be "THE STORM OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and the end of civilization. It's like the weather forecaster who cried wolf.

People will only react to that for so long and then they become lax and don't prepare. That of course is the time when we have a real storm.

It pays to look at the National Hurricane Center website, because it's hype free.
I did. Latest wind probability charts show a 30% chance of sustained winds > 39 MPH and 5% chance of >58 MPH winds in my part of Virginia through Wednesday afternoon. Looks like the pasture's gonna get some 4-6" of rain, though.

So, I figure cut those probabilities by half and it'll be in the ballpark.
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Terns, gulls,....they can't fish in that rough water.
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All barrier islands in the peoples republic are under mandatory evacuation orders. All roads into the islands will be closed at 1600 tomorrow. The evacuation order includes the casino hotels in AC, last time that happened was during Gloria in the mid 80's
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I gave the generator at test start about 2 weeks ago. It was running fine, 8,000w with 10,000w surge. I will run the entire house for as long as needed.

The Halloween storm last year was enough for me to finally invest in a generator. I was out of power for 5+ days. I decided on a B&S. Had a transfer switch installed this past summer.

Food is in, mother-in-law is setup. I'll pick up another 5 gal of gas tomorrow on the way home from the range.

I really hope I don't need it. Good luck to all.

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I am very anxious to hear all the jokes turn to cries of grief if this storm does what is projected it could do.
From one who has weatered these storms and not been home for a week to take care of his own place---your song and dance attitude will be much akin to those folks who laughed and made fun of old Noah---until the doors to the ark closed.
This is serious business folks and some are going to die.
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This is serious business folks and some are going to die.
Sandy has already claimed at least one life here
in the states, although in a round about way.

Yesterday morning, our son's convoy of 20 trucks were making their way back
towards the e-way after their night lay-over and a local crossed the center line
in their car and hit the truck, in front of the one our son was driving, head on.

Our son rushed up to see what he could do, but the driver of the car was dead.

For the record, our son's convoy of trucks is being routed to the Boston, MA, area.

Yesterday the wife & I took a road trip down to one of the Detroit suburbs so I
could score a 2 week old, (used but not fired by the owner) Model 60 Pro ($450.)

On the way down & back we seen two other convoys of Electrical Lineman
heading south. Our son had, at one time or another, worked for both companies
rolling down the road so, I'm sure, there were Lineman in those trucks who know Ian.
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Anyone who thinks this is overhyped has never spent anytime on the North Carolina coast in the maritime business. Right now 55 knot winds and 25 foot seas. Come on and get ya some of that for about 20 hours or so and report back. This is serious **** and some people will die from this event, let alone the devastating economic impact!
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I remember all the stories.
From the hurricane which came ashore at Gulfport in the 60's--25 people on the third floor of an apartment--reveling in a hurricane party when a 20 foot wall of water washed away , not only the building, but them also.
In 1900 when there was no warning system and 1000 in Galveston TX were killed--and people today, who know but deny the danger.
Then there was that lady who during Rita thought she would ride out the storm at her home at Crystal Beach in Galveston--it wsa only a catagory one storm---her last message to her daughter was "I think I have really screwed up this time"---her body has never been found.
Think about this folks---before you joke and hold your ground.
Then there was the time I listened to the leaders and they had a plan of evacuation---everybody wait their turn to evacuate---I spent 24 hours in a traffic jamb while the storm came in.
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Terns, gulls,....they can't fish in that rough water.
What beach/pier is that Red ?
That's Fernandina Beach in North Florida, almost to Georgia.
I couldn't get all the birds in my pictures, thousands of them.
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Well were just waiting at this point cannot do more to prepare.

Food and things are set. Things are put away/tied down outside.

For us its seeming like we will have a major wind storm. They say we will only get four inches of rain over three days.

The storm surge is the biggest concern for folks right now. They said that this will be the worst in seventy five years...

I am about two miles from the coast, but I am up a few hundred feet.

I did buy a new generator, I smashed the piggy bank and bought a Honda from the local dealer. Has a three year warranty on it seems ok but time will tell.

My wife went out for a few things (unneeded but she wanted to get out) said the stores are stripped clean. Radio Shack has no batteries.

New York City will be shutting down the trains and buses tonight, thats a big deal. They dont do that often...

As long as a tree does not fall on our house we will be fine.

Many folks will have it worse than we do.
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I believe the people living along the coast in the affected areas would be wise to take necessary precautions and I wish them all well. Otherwise, I sometimes think The Weather Channel is in cahoots with all the big name national retailers and do nothing but scare people into stripping stores bare. Sure, inlanders will get wind, rain, and snow but those of us that live here year round are used to it. I say bring it on Miss Sandy - we've dealt with threats like you before and we are alot tougher than you think!

By the way, PA's great governor released a statement that everyone should stay at home. I wonder if my employer would buy that one !
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As a pennsylvania tree trimmer for 30 years i can say that i have seen quite a bit of what big storms can bring. If you have large trees over your house sleeping on the first floor isn't a bad idea. One time i removed a tree that fell on a house and a limb spiked right through the roof and hit his toilet. I was surprised how loud it is to run a chainsaw in a bathroom.
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I just started me 3rd new job of the year last Monday and just got a call from my new boss not to try to drive the 55 miles one way to Norwalk Ct. Monday morning He will update me about Tuesday.
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You laugh but today the liquor stores were packed!

Here are my "ride out the weather" beverages



Thats just the beer and only a small portion. There are also several cases and 5 bottles of each of the big ones. There is also tequila, vodka and scotch!





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