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Old 12-26-2012, 12:01 AM
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A cop friend of mine sent me this today, I thought it was worth sharing so I cleaned it up and posted it. I hope someone else likes it too.

Anyone ever wonder why cops are such 'jerks'? Every crappy, rotten,
horrible, scary situation that exists in life, cops deal with it.
Repeatedly. Every darn' day. Your 'worst day ever' is just another
tour. Car accident, homicide, rape, robbery, baby mama drama, baby daddy
drama, family dispute over who gets the last pork chop that winds up with
a dinner guest sporting a steak knife in the chest, a kid that goes
missing or runs away, a Dad who gets tanked up and uses Mom as a speed
bag, a drug overdose, hostage situations...every despicable thing that one
human being can do to another is what the police are immersed in every
day.

Just this week, police in Newburgh, NY were at the scene where a
wonderful upstanding citizen was holding others hostage. Earlier this
year, this young man's brother charged the police with a knife (it was the
last thing he did on this earth...) and the present hostage situation put
the lives of 2 people in peril as the perpetrator ranted and raved. The
police charged him and subdued him. What does his family do? Why, they
charge the police of course! Listen, one family member was a savage who
tried to kill the police and just a few months later his little brother is
threatening the lives of others while he holds them hostage. Just after
minimizing the threat from this psycho, they have to hold off his family
who tried to rush the police. Just a little note, when your 'emotionally
disturbed' family member is off his/her meds and is a danger to himself or
to society and the police have to be called to the scene, try to remember
they are the POLICE. If you wanted a social worker or a psychologist, you
should have dialed one directly.


This past month, a young NYPD officer gained some notoriety when he
bought a pair of boots for what appeared to be a homeless man down on his
luck on the streets of Manhattan. It was a selfless gesture and the story
went nationwide. It was an opportunity to see the police in a kinder,
softer light and quite a human interest story. Of course the media wanted
to know all about the recipient of the benevolence - who was he? What was
his 'story'? Well, it was learned that Mr. Hillman was not (and is not)
homeless. He has a nice apartment in the Bronx, he receives Social
Security and Veteran's benefits and has a loving supportive family in
Pennsylvania. When asked what he did with the boots, he claimed that he
hid them because he didn't want to be robbed and that they were valuable
(bull - he sold them).

Mr. Hillman also claimed that he intends to sue the photographer because
he didn't give permission for his picture to be taken and he wants a
'piece of the pie' . So Mr. Hillman is a straight up 'playa', yo. Officer
DePrimo said that he was going to keep the receipt in his bulletproof vest
as a reminder that no matter how hard a day he was having, he would know
that someone else is having a harder time and that he would always be
grateful. Officer DePrimo did an honorable thing, but the death of his
innocence and naive has begun and in it's place, cynicism and disdain may
have begun its germination.

Stuff like this happens all the time. You call, they come. When they
come, it is likely that someone will be leaving in handcuffs. You cannot
call the police to a violent situation and expect that in the end,
everyone's tears will be dried, hot chocolate and cookies will be handed
out to be enjoyed by all and "Kumbaya" will be heard in the background.

They are law enforcement officers. They enforce the law. You do not get
to determine how they execute their duties. If you could have handled the
bag of stuff you called them about, you would have. You couldn't, so just
shut up and deal with the fact that your
husband/wife/brother/sister/baby mama/baby daddy/child/BFF could very well
be spending time as a guest of the municipality who came to answer your
call for help.

Cops hang out with other cops. They get each other; they don't have to
explain themselves. They laugh at things other people think inappropriate.

Their humor is dark, but they love to laugh. They work second jobs and
they are Boy Scout Leaders, lacrosse, football, soccer, hockey and
baseball coaches. The divorce rate in the United States is over 50%, for
cops it is significantly higher, and with good reason.

They spend twenty –plus years being tired and grumpy from the commute,
the crazy hours, the job and pain in the butt bosses. When they walk in
the door and the kids yell, “Daddy!” (or, “Mommy!”) they ‘re ready with a
big hug, a smile and a “What’s up guys?” How, you ask, do I know these
things? I have spent twenty seven years being married to one of them. He
is one of those big-mouthed tough guys who know everything. He trusts no
one. He is a cop’s cop. He has an amazing memory and eye for detail that
is astounding.

Anyone who has ever worked with him will tell you he is probably a
little crazy, but that he is the best cop they ever worked with. For
twenty years, I watched him walk out the door and I always prayed that he
would come back. There were some really close calls, but he always made it
home. I have never taken that for granted, I know too well the ache and
emptiness in the eyes of the survivors of the shield.


For twenty years, I lent my husband to New York City to patrol the
streets and to keep the wolves at bay so that the people of that city
could live under the blanket of security and safety that his existence
provided; all the while knowing that the very citizens he protected
resented his presence. In 2010, our son took the oath of office and wears
the shield his father wore before him. Again, I wait each night until I
hear the key in the door before I fall into a deep sleep.


Cops are Jerks. It's what keeps them alive and whole, because if they
let all the **** they deal with actually sink in, it would destroy their
souls. So they will deal with the things you don't want to believe really
happen. They will be physically and emotionally bruised, battered and
bloodied. And at the end of each tour when they take off the uniform and
close their locker they say a brief prayer of thanks for making it through
the day safely. There is one thing that a cop wants every day when he or
she goes into work – just one thing. At the end of tour, they want to go
home. That’s it, just to make it home where things are normal, boring and
safe. When all is said and done, that really is their job - to make it
through the day and arrive home safe and sound.


- A Cop's Wife
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Old 12-26-2012, 06:25 AM
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That is all well and good---but there are some who love the smell of fear from those they browbeat.
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Well said. I recall a bumper sticker that was popular when I was a teen that said: "If you think cops are bad, next time you're in trouble, call a Hippie!"

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Wait wait a minute! Youre telling me that they DONT hand out cookies and hot chocolate? So all this time ive been calling them for no reason?



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Well said. I recall a bumper sticker that was popular when I was a teen that said: "If you think cops are bad, next time you're in trouble, call a Hippie!"
Hmm...I have a friend who would absolutely LOVE this...any ideas on how to make custom bumper stickers?
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Thanks for sharing!
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They knew all that when they signed up to join the outfit.
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Great post, roundgunner; thank you. Had never seen it before.

Sadly, given some of the toxic replies already in the thread I predict this will be LOCKED before sunset.

Again, thank you.

Be safe.

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A cop friend of mine sent me this today, I thought it was worth sharing so I cleaned it up and posted it.
I hope someone else likes it too.

Anyone ever wonder why cops are such.....

Good Read right thar!

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They knew all that when they signed up to join the outfit.

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Ya might wanta look up and read your signature line, "John 3:16" right thar.

Some of us here 'bouts, so love our communities and neighbors, knowing full-well,
that we too may be called upon to give our very lives as well.

We as LEOs, as well as others, know not the place nor the hour..........

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Great post, roundgunner; thank you. Had never seen it before.

Sadly, given some of the toxic replies already in the thread I predict this will be LOCKED before sunset.

Again, thank you.

Be safe.


Wells Big D,

Sad to say those that spit on us the most often...Cry for help the loudest.

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I still get chrsitmas cards from people i helped when i was a LEO. Those kinda folks make up for the others
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A LEO friend once made the observation except for the normal traffic stuff and the emergencies, most of the time LEO's aren't dealing with "nice" people...
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I have never had to call upon the services of a policeman,mainly due to being extremely lucky but in no small part to being aware,not putting myself or my family in possible harm's way and taking the initiative to solve the small problems that seem to become big ones myself.
I respect cops and have met my share of good and not so good ones but I always go back to what an old grizzled NYC beat cop once told me. " We're just like you except you can avoid us and our bs but we can't avoid you and yours,it's our job".
Worked for me.

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They knew all that when they signed up to join the outfit.
Caj's comment is representative of cynicism regarding the job my brothers and I did and do.
And actually, it is not true. Yes, when young, like I once was, we all came on board knowing there would be difficulties. Knowing there would be challenges, but our training and experience would allow us to 'triumph over the evil'.
Yes, many of us even set out with the mental picture that we were gonna 'go forth and do good' and 'save the world', or at least our little part of it.

One finds out, especially in a very busy place like where I worked, that your intentions and efforts are minuscule compared to the task that is set before you. You find out that you are in fact, just human. You experience the loss of fellow officers killed doing what you do everyday. And you also find out that much of the public that we serve does not care one whit that the KIA officer has left behind a widow and one or more children. - They may even parrot Caj's response I quoted above. I've actually heard it.

No - us young guys did not know that when we signed on. We did not know the depths of depravity that we would get to see that is many times the human condition. We got to learn that later.

So few even come close to understanding. Perhaps because our public gets it's education on LE from the great educator - the TV and entertainment media.

Will always recall working an incredibly busy and stressful night (7p-7a), and having a bad cold on top of that, and then having to be in court at 9am.(no pay for court appearance, BTW) There was a recess and a defense attorney nudged me during it when it was apparent that I was dozing off. (imagine that...) The attorney stated 'Maybe you shouldn't BE HERE if you can't even STAY AWAKE.'

I'm not a violent or aggressive man, but I've never wanted to break anyone's nose that bad.
I wonder how many overnight shifts he'd spent dealing with the worst in his expensive, tailored suit, complete with starched shirt and cufflinks?
That encounter pretty much encapsulated the 'chasm' between those that actually do the job and those who really don't have a clue.
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Not all cops are jerks. They're people like everyone else. It's true that some get off on a power trip. It's the few that make it look bad for all.
I was walking a rail trail on a warm moonlit evening and was handcuffed, and accused of being a drug trafficker because I have dark skin, long hair, earrings and tattoos. I was released after they found no drugs on me or in my car. The cop who handcuffed me apologized and told me that the trail I was walking on was used by drug traffickers in that area. He never raised his voice, or acted like a jerk in any way. In fact he was very professional and polite. I was glad he was out doing his job. While it's true I was a little miffed about being racially profiled I had to admit to myself that I did kinda fit the description of a drug trafficker in that area. I'm American Indian and I have been mistaken for many different dark skin races.

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if you intend to embark in what is now a dangerous profession,it would be prudent to learn what the job entails before signing on. anything less is recipe for disaster for those on both sides of the badge.
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They knew all that when they signed up to join the outfit.
Yeah, like having to be polite to "people" like you.
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Boy, that was uncalled for. As much as I respect what the police do and have to put up with, I get the impression from some responses here that we owe them something special for what they do. You have my gratitude and my tax money to pay your salaries. What else is there?
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You have my gratitude and my tax money to pay your salaries. What else is there?

Hey thar ChuckieS1,

We also respond to the other 49% that don't pay taxes toward any-body's salaries.
Which by the way isn't all that great of pay in most jurisdictions.

But, LE & Firefighters respond to the cries of those in need of help at breakneck speeds most times anyhow.

Thank you for your support, we are most great-full to be of service to those like yourself, anyways.

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When I was a young punk kid, all cops were "pigs". They were all on the take, and none of them could be trusted. I hated them.

When I was 20 years old, one of those "pigs" picked me up on a drug possession charge, an arrest that ultimately started me down the path to sobriety.
At first it was HIS fault. As if he were the one that sent me into the city with a carload of losers, and HE took the money out of my wallet, and HE put a bag of drugs in my pocket.
Looking back on it, that "pig" saved my life, and I hope for a chance to someday shake the man's hand and tell him "Thank you."

Fast forward a few years, and I started to grow up. I came to realize that cops are just people, trying to do a job. I learned that the best way to deal with a cop is HONESTY.
"Do you know why I stopped you?"
"Yes, sir. I was speeding, etc."
"I'm letting you off with a warning. Slow it down and have a good night."

Since I "grew up", I haven't had one single problem with a cop. Not one. I've only been written up for one ticket in over 12 years, and I've been stopped several times. The one ticket I've had in 12 years was for speeding on an interstate highway, out of town, on 4th of July weekend. Seems I was asking for it.

Point being, you are the single biggest factor that will decide how your interaction with the cop will go. If you think it over, that rule applies to anybody you are dealing with. The first few seconds set the tempo for the whole interaction. If you are pleasant and polite, the cop will be too. If you are rude and nasty, guess what.

I'm glad I grew up. It makes my interaction with policemen go a hell of a lot smoother, and in some cases, enjoyable.
It's a tough job, and they deserve some respect.
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About ten years a go I was staying with a friend for the weekend. It was Monday morning and I had what I needed to go to work except for one thing....a rain coat. It was pouring rain and I had to ride the city bus. I had to come up with something or get soaked, so I did....a huge trash bag. So there I was wearing and ankle length trash bag with my head poking out and a ball cap on my head. The bus went right by me, heck did not even slow down. So now what am I gonna do? Time to walk 5 miles to work, so off I go. About 30 seconds later there was a siren behind me, when I turned around there was a Crown Vic with flashing lights. A cop was pulling me over for walking in the rain while wearing a trash bag, perfect. The cop saw what happened and gave me a ride to work, which was a college. I got to ride in the police car to work. I rode in the backseat, and the fun starts. The cop dropped me off at the bus stop right where the city bus would have dropped me off. I was let out of the back seat, wearing a trash bag while being wet. At this point a small crowd starts to gather wondering what I did. The cop and I have a quick look and he smiles at me and without missing a beat he said "I saw this homeless guy walking and I brought him here to better himself and get an education". I cracked up laughing, it was a great day.
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Some really are jerks...as a reserve sheriff, I worked with many different deps...most were cool, but the way some talk to the public made we want to wear a ski mask working with them...I never understood how some cops acted like their mother was run over when someone rolled through a stop sign...
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The vast majority of cops I know personally or have run into have been decent hard working people. It is understandable that they have a healthy suspicion of people since many of the people they encounter are less than truthful. It does help that I am law abiding and also demonstrate respect for cops. I think a lot of it is getting back what you give. I can think of a lot of other professions ( including my own ) where I saw more disrespect than I've ever seen with cops.
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Being a cop is a job I know that I would not choose to try to do. They deal with the rotten filth of humankind every day and put their lives at risk in often totally-unexpected situations. I'm glad there are those who are willing to do it, and no amount of money or praise could compensate them for what they endure.

In the military, you know you are going to face an enemy, and you have your brothers-in-arms and the best equipment, training and support system in the world to deal with that, when and if you have to. Dangerous and life-threatening, yes, but the death rate is less than being on the streets for any length of time in Detroit or Chicago.

Cops are undermanned, often alone with inadequate equipment, and face horrible situations that cannot be checked out in advance. The only rule is that there are no rules. The fact that some survive with their sanity intact to take well-earned retirement pay is a miracle. They are subject to the whims of idiotic bureaucrats and often the misguided anger of those they try to protect and serve. They operate under guidelines that often don't make any sense whatsoever. It takes a special kind of man or woman to endure under these circumstances.

My hat is off to them; God bless 'em.

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Let me just say this, civilians call the cops when things get bad, then expect them to work miracles! Doesn't always happen that way, but they do get the job done, even if the civvies don't like it!
Then the same civvies expect then to be "Officer Friendly" after all the stuff he's/she's seen, or worse lookin down your nose at them when they give you a ticket for being/ doing something stupid!
I never wore a badge, but I did serve, and in some cases walked on the "dark side of the moon", and sometimes laugh at what a cop calls a bad day. But after Newtown, I saw their faces and knew what they had seen, I'd seen it too in Astan...only worse! But I do identify with what they have to deal with.
When a civvie needs help, they dial 911, and a Calvary of blue and grey show up, when America dialed 911, I and and bunch of hardcases answered and boots hit the ground!
And any of you lawdogs ever need back up, drop me a line, I'll get back in the harness again for you guys anytime! Dale
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Some really are jerks...as a reserve sheriff, I worked with many different deps...most were cool, but the way some talk to the public made we want to wear a ski mask working with them...I never understood how some cops acted like their mother was run over when someone rolled through a stop sign...

Sip,

Ya know I've worked with a few of them sorts my ownself...

Those guys would have been jerks if'n they worked behind a soda counter.

Or any other profession for that matter.

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I wonder if cajunbass and chucks1 feel the same way about our vets.

Nevermind. Judging by their "quality", I'm sure they do.
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Nice to see that some here, at least on the SWF 'get it'. Most of the populace never will.

I'll always recall being with my crusty old Field Training Officer as a rookie and we had arrested some lowlife urban miscreant. He was going on and on about how "I pay your salary...blah, blah" while cuffed in the back seat. My FTO reached in his pocket, retrieved, IIRC, about 12 cents in change and officially re-imbursed what he figured was this guys tax contribution to our salaries. And in retrospect, he probably overpaid.
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don't do there job the right way? A SMALL amount I think.

I shutter to think if we didn't have any fine LEOs protecting our streets. If the anti-gun crowd thinks things are bad now just think if we had to take take protection and helping our neighbors into our own hands in time of dire need.

SUPPORT THEM and let them know we need them...dan
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Being a cop does not make you a good person or a bad person.
Being a good person or a bad person makes you one or the other.

We had Capt. Vvvvvv, the serial breast fondler. He would follow the girls into the cooler at the local quick store when they had to stock it. Give them a good feel and threaten them with his authority if they told about it.

Chief Wwwww, shot twice on duty and blamed it on undeserving, imaginary motorcycle gangsters when in fact it was the husband of a local woman the first time (you figure it out) and a liquor agent shooting him the second time for the same reason.

Sgt Xxxxxx who stole more evidence than you can imagine and blame fellow officers. When asked to pay for meals at local eateries he would declare himself the official food taster who couldn't be charged.

Deputy Yyyyyyy who would confiscate legally possessed guns from traffic stops and other encounters with law abiding public. He would file some bogus charge, then would tell folks the guns were ordered destroyed, but good news is charges are dropped.They were in fact sent to his brother, a FFL in AZ to be sold.

Chief Zzz who ordered a new Python from Sports and Spirits (Guns and booze,what a combo) Lea picked it up and never made any effort to pay for it and threatened the owners with loss of liquor lic. if they spoke up.

I wouldn't say things like this about people without proof and none of these people are involved in L.E. around here anymore.

We have had it pretty bad around here.
I am sure there are a lot of good cops. It just seems around here they are average or corrupt.
For all cops who have never stolen anything, abused anybody or lied in court I salute you.
Mike

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I respect cops and have met my share of good and not so good ones but I always go back to what an old grizzled NYC beat cop once told me." We're just like you except you can avoid us and our bs but we can't avoid you and yours,it's our job".
Worked for me.
Well said duppie! Yes, there are good cops and there are bad cops, but at least there ARE cops!!
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I would be surprised to find very many officers who "knew what the were getting into" when they started out, especially way back when. Back then we didn't have all the shows on TV to show us the way! Seriously, though, all the young officers I "grew up" around had one thing in common; a need (not a want) to do more, to make a difference, to do something more than live a life of 9 to 5. For me it started out for the excitement and getting to carry a gun. That quickly faded with all the abuse taken and the long hours of pure boredom. Why stay in? Hard to put into words. It just made me feel I was in my right place. It's hard to explain to a civilian how it feels to do the job. But the following link might help. On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs - Dave Grossman
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It takes a certain type of person that is able to deal with the constant crud that LEO's face every day all day long. I try to understand that when I get pulled over for a traffic ticket!
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