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Didn't want to hijack the other thread.

Why don't we ever see Spanish copies of Colt double action revolvers? Can't say they were too hard to reproduce 'cause they didn't have any problen changing the lockwork in S&W copies.
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If you're going to copy something, why not copy the best??
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Many of the S&W looking Spanish copys have internal lockwork that mimics Colt DA revolvers.
Not all of them,,and not strict copys,,but many use the V mainspring, rebound lever set up of the Colt along with a few other small features inside.
Maybe many are a mix of both so as not to step on the toes of either of the Big American gun companys.
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Maybe many are a mix of both so as not to step on the toes of either of the Big American gun companys.
Surely they didn't care that much?
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Surely they didn't care that much?
Some of the companys there did. International patents were in effect and some of Spanish companies that made these were quite large enterprises. No different that Mauser taking S/A to court and making them (us) pay for the use of their patent in building the '03 Springfield originally.

Not all of them in Spain were the backyard cottage gun builders so often spoken about, though that form of labor was quite often taken advantage of for certain operations.
The European companys were actually no different in many ways,,just a bit more sophisticated in their operations, organization and quality.

Outsourcing is the PC name for it now. But overstep into someone elses patent and you'd hear about it if they had the means.
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The only Spanish copies I've seen are of Spanards. She was cute but married. Ivan
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I've actually had a couple spanish revolvers that were clearly colt copies, one had the name "Golliath" on it, can't remember what was on the other one. They had a colt style cylinder latch and the overall styling was very similar to a colt. Most of the spanish revolvers use a lockwork that is far more like a colt than a smith.

I would suspect that marketing may have played a part in influencing the spanish makers to make their products look like Smith & Wesson guns. Smith's were very popular in the south and central american countries and many spanish makers did business there. They were willing to copy any product that sold well as I have seen spanish Winchester copies too.
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