I went to Walmart's websight to check and see if any of the stores in my area had 22 ammo. What I found was that Walmart does not even list 22 ammo anymore, nor do they list any pistol ammo. All they list is lots of airsoft stuff, bbs, pellet gun ammo, some shotgun ammo and the most common deer hunting ammo. 30-30, 30-06 and 270, but not .223. It's not that they are out, it's like Walmart doesn't even carry the stuff anymore. So I checked some of the Walmart stores in larger towns and cities. I went as far as San Antonio, which is about the 8th largest city in the country. None of these places even list 22, pistol ammo or .223. They did about 2-3 weeks ago. Has Walmart quit carrying 22rf and pistol ammo?

Never liked them, nothing ever killed Main Street USA like they did. Not to mention American manufacturing. I am always amazed why people go there.

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Back to back World War Champs.

My Wal-Mart gets in ammo every morning at 7 a.m. and is completely sold out in thirty minutes.

Three box limit per customer.

I buy three bricks of .22 or three boxes of .223 every morning.

Promptly flip it on Armslist the same day.

Gotta love Wal Mart. Still selling at same prices as before the latest panic.

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What's wrong with Walmart? How long do you have? Have you ever wandered through there on the first Friday of the month and looked around? It looks like a refugee from Barnum and Baileys circus. Rude, obnoxious people of all ages who look they have never heard the words "excuse me" much less know how to apply them. As far as ammo, I stopped buying from them years ago. The wife and I go there simply for groceries, what ever is cheaper than the other two stores in the area because every penny counts. However they are working on building a grocery store up our way in the next year or two and when that is up and running I hope to say goodbye to Wa lmart because I just don't like going there unless necessary. The clothing is cheap and wears out quickly and there is nothing left to offer, they have done in a number of small stores locally and I see nothing they have to my benefit.

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Vaya con Dios

When you "flip" your ammo that you buy from walmart do you sell it at the same price that walmart does?

I noticed a couple of years ago that they started putting codes on their food instead of "From the Smith Farm". I asked and was told that most of the food came from China. I quit going.

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No, of course not.

Neither would I sell my house or land or guns for what I paid the former owner years ago.

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I'm sure you are aware that you're "capitalist" activities are not appreciated by many.

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Centennial Every Day

My last Doctors appt. was to a neuro-muscular specialist in MorganTown WV, 110 miles away. While we were there and after my appt. We decided to stop at the Olive Garden for lunch then off to Walmart to see if they had any ammo. At the gun counter they had a display case completely filled with .40 ammo. Behind the counter there was a couple of boxes of .380 and the rest was all shotgun and rifle ammo. Nothing in .22, .38 Special, .357 Magnum or any other pistol cartridges. The guy at the counter was too busy having a personal phone conversation on his cell phone to answer any questions. I'm glad we stay stocked up on ammo and got lots before the craziness started.

Walmart sucks. That is my .02 worth and I am sticking to it. Don

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"Don't worry be happy"

Noting killed buggy manufacturers like Henry Ford.

I'm not particulalry a Walmert fan and I'll probably regret this, but here it is.

Walmart sells products in the open market at prices that people are willing to pay. Walmart's success is not due to some evil scheme, it's due to consumer demand.

Walmart did not negotiate unsustainable, hyper-inflated labor contracts with American manufactureres, unions did. GM paid union members to sit around drinking coffee when things get slow, rather than laying off and rehiring when things picked back up. Not to mention paying somebody $20/hour to push a broom, just because the person had been pushing a broom for 15 years.

Walmart did not saddle American manufacturers with such oppressive regulations that it no longer made sense to operate here, federal and state legislatures did.

Those cheap Walmart prices are not just because they sell cheap chinese junk. Walmart operates like a bunch of Chicago gangsters. Just ask any of their vendors.

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Centennial Every Day

Dang Photoman44 you beat me to it. Just another keeping that cycle going.

In my opinion not the same by a long shot. You and the rest of the "flippers" are adding fuel to the fire same as the ones that buy up all the plywood, generators and the like before a storm and then resell at a higher price. You are "captializing" on the panic/shortage that is ongoing not to mention making it a little difficult for us to enjoy our pastime and perpetuating the cycle. I for one don't "enjoy" the thrill of running around to every wally world in the region tying to find that elusive little box of ammo (I refuse to do that) I have better things to do with my time.

Interesting perspective and a true statement.

Equally true would be the statement that his Capitalistic activities are greatly appreciated by those who choose to buy his wares.

Would you prefer that the government step in and regulate how ammunition and firearms are distributed?

Oh, wait...

I noticed that they took their ammo listings off the other day also. A guy I work with would check the stock from his phone every few hours for ammo (3 Walmarts in my area) , and when he would see some in stock, he would go buy it up. I figured that they took those listings off so people would have to go to the store and check or call (anyone who has called Walmart knows that is pretty much useless). I don't go there unless I absolutely have to.

I was in there the other day to pick up a few groceries and stopped by the reloading section just to see if they had a shell holder for a 9mm my father just bought, and I ended up seeing 3 bags of .223 brass! They didn't have the shell holder, but I picked up a bag of brass .

I went in the local one here last Monday morning at about 8:30, and bought the only box of .357 on the shelf, a box of Federal 158grs.

Considering that this was the only handgun ammo I've cared about that they've had for about a month, I was happy to get it.

They threaten them with physical violence? You are refering to the ability to take advantage of the economy of scale. Vendors don't like the way Walmart works? Then they don't have to sell to them. Of course, that probably means charging higher prices and selling less product. Their choice.

I don't shop at Walmart but my problem is Americans love to cry about the economy and loss of jobs then hop in the family import and drive down to Walmart for some Chinese underwear. I agree unions killed the golden goose but that doesn't justify Walmart paying minimum wages with no benefits either.
Now where can I get a good buggy whip?

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Back to back World War Champs.

The plywood and generator are WORTH MORE during a storm than at other times. That's why people are willing to pay more. If you live in "blizzard alley," maybe you should have the foresight to buy a snow shovel in the off season. And since when is it anybody's moral obligation to make sure that another person can enjoy his or her pastime? I'd be able to enjoy shooting more if ATK would distribute ammo for free. I hardly faut them for choosing to make a profit. You've decided that it's not worth it for you to pay higher prices or spend time searching for scarce product. Others feel differently, thus the higher prices. The free market is working.

So how much should they pay? Obviously they aren't having any trouble finding people that can perform adequately to work for those wages. Walmart is not a charity (although it does donated to charities), it's a business. It's very purpose is to maximize profits for shareholders.

There's this radical new concept out there. Embraced by roving gangs of youths dressed in their "colors", they roam in mostly rural areas promoting outdated ideals and practices.

Their cult-ish motto is: "Be Prepared."

Of course, the concept is made fun of on the television with exaggerated caricatures fumbling their way through hour-long episodes.

I had a response typed out that would have probably get me banned . Suffice it to say that IMHO Walmart is no worse than Companies kept in business with subsidized tax dollars.

You can not give to someone that which is not taken from someone else!!!!

Yaktamer

I come from a right to work state.

There was a time in our history when labor unions did much good. I can thank unions for the 40 hr work week even though a lot of folks ate working 2 jobs to make it.

Today labor unions in my opinion need to go. My gut turns when I read for example the Chicago school teachers are some of the highest paid in the country and they have the nerve to strike.

I own a 2000 Chev pickup that I purchased new and I have no intentions to sell. It has 90, 000 miles and looks new and had given me no trouble. However, when GM sends me their customer loyalty garbage I toss it in the garbage.

I will never buy another GM automobile even though my truck has given me zero problems.

I am not going to invest my non union honest working wages to support a racket. My other auto is a Honda Accord and last I checked they are not paying custodians $30 per hour plus benefits and guarantee wages even when laid off.

Russ

P.S. If you are a custodian don't take offense. I supported myself through college cleaning toilets and I was thankful for the work especially that my pay was not $30 per hour otherwise I may not have worked as hard to earn grades which enabled me to go to grad school.

Chicago gangsters would be able to get the odd bulk pack of .22LR into my local store...

Our local Walmart employs several handicap people. They are friendly and are glad to help. Plus they have pride in doing a job and are not fully on the dole.

I had some long drawn out post as a retort but I deleted it. I have my morals and others have theres it is what it is.

Most WMs around me dont carry or stock guns and ammo so to me, going to WM for ammo, is like going to Target or Danny's

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When I had to sell ALL of my firearms to pay doctor bills, I made a deal with my friend, whom wanted a Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle and a 1962 Ruger Single Six convertiable, that when I had the money I would buy them back. He gave me $500. I went to his house 2 months later and he had sold them, for $1K!
I had to get that out because in a way it was a"flip" on my part where I was the one to get "FLIPPED!"

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How many guns are too many?

It has been justified that it is somehow correct to make a profit from a natural disaster or to continue to some maintain the painic buying of ammo. What ever happened to "Do unto others as we would done unto us". Greed is a powerful motivator. I do live in the snow belt. I have had my snow shovel for several years. My snow blower is gased up a ready to go from November until April. The people on my block have been known to give gasoline to others who have run out of gas for the snow blowers or helped someone who got drifted in. I do not expect to have the gas replaced or for other to help me dig out; I do in because it is the right thing to do.

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Carpriver.

So I should replace my mexican made Chevrolet truck with another mexican made Chevrolet rather than buying a Toyota truck made in San Antonio Texas then?

Oh fer Pete's Sake...

We're talking about sport shooting, not natural disasters.

Big difference between needing water because of a tornado and wanting cheap ammo for shooting at tin cans and paper bad guys.

No one is being forced to do anything. If you didn't see this coming and lay in ammunition before the SHTF, whose fault is that?

No one is being forced to do anything. If you don't like the going rate exactly who is making you reach for your wallet?

No one is being forced to do anything. Are you angry that you must pay more to play more or are you angry because you're on the buying end instead of the selling end?

Calm down, be patient.

I shop at Walmart because I live in a small town, and except for a grocery store, a pet food store that also sells farm/ranch products, a hardware store, and a fishing tackle store. There is no other place to shop. Everything else is either an art gallery or a souviner shop. If you want to buy a pair of jeans, or a TV etc. You go to Walmart or you drive 50 miles one way to the nearest city, which isn't really much of a city. Still, I like the semi-rural life, even if we don't have many places to shop.

Just because someone buys his ammo at inflated prices does not mean they appreciate the "service" he is providing. My advice to scalpers is to make sure the eyes in the back of their head are in good working order.

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Centennial Every Day

Walmart uses its "economy of scale" to run competition out of town and bully vendors. If that's the way they want to run their business, more power to them. Those of us that know what they're up to will gladly take our money elsewhere.

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Centennial Every Day

Photoman we're talking about disposable income and optional spending. Hardly a case for planning revenge on someone.

Do you talk that way when University of Texas football tickets cost you 2X face? Because I can tell you how Ohio State solved that problem. Patrons constantly cried about how scalpers bought up all the football tickets and marked them up as high as people were willing to pay (mind you, the Shoe has sold out every game since Hector was a pup so 100,000 plus are paying that rate every Saturday). These patrons went to the university and said that "something must be done!"
Okay, said the brain trust at Ohio Agricultural & Mechanical, we will make it better. So to discourage the secondary market, they figured out how much the average scalped ticket went for and now CHARGE THAT RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX! Additionally, games designated as "premium" will cost more.

I guess that explains those mega-malls that have built up around every Wal-Mart I've ever seen.

But you are right. They're not on "Main Street." Of course nothing else is either. It all moved out to the suburbs where the people are a long time ago.

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walmart didnt make itself a mega retailer...the american buyer did, brought on by the desire for a lower price...the almighty dollar has spoken. I am not a big walmart fan but cutting off your nose to spite your face doesnt sound right to me. Something tells me they will survive with or without me buying my ammo there.
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What we are seeing is just simple supply and demand. You cannot regulate the natural laws of economics any more than you can regulate the natural laws of physics. If the legislature passed a law exempting me from the law of gravity, it doesn't mean I can fly.

These people that are "hoarding" or "price gouging" are selling a product for the most that they can find someone to buy it. You are no doubt doing the same with your labor. You sell your labor (go to work) for the highest price you can (highest wages you can get). If you don't like the prices for guns and ammo, don't pay it. If enough people don't, then prices will come down. That's how it works. If you really just want to be mad at someone, be mad at
he buyers paying these prices. They are really the ones keeping prices high.

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Proud anachronism

I just miss shopping on my town Main St. I know everybody and everybody knew me. A real hardware store, yep, I don' t particularly care for the Orange or Blue stores either. The place I bought newspapers and cigarettes, a real clothing store, family owned, you get the idea. It's the death of a way of life we enjoyed in this country for generations that is gone forever and it's not for the better. IM old HO

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Back to back World War Champs.

If it wasn't for WalMart,I wouldn't get all of those e-mails with pics of the freaks and geeks that shop there.
f.t.

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What I've learned from this discussion:
1) It's wrong to sell stuff cheap because it puts other people out of business.
2) It's wrong to sell stuff at high prices because people want stuff cheap.

You may not believe it given my posts on this thread, but I feel much the same way. But I don't think the change has been a result of moral decay (though there is certainly plenty of that), as much as technological development. Walmart could disappear tomorrow and things wouldn't revert to the good old days. With the internet brick and motar retailing is never going to make a big comeback.

I have no problem with buying ammunition and reselling it. If you want to buy ammunition then wake up earlier and stand in line.

I do however have a problem when buyers start to believe they are 'entitled' to it. There is a Goodwill store near me where I used to frequent. I liked to buy albums and the occasional outdoor equipment. But the store attracted a lot of Hispanics and Russian flippers and many of them are very rude. I've had books taken out of my hands, stuff taken out my cart and literally pushed away from the merchandise. I guess I'm taking money out of their mouths.

Fyi.Wal Mart also charges truck drivers or trucking companies to unload the product they ordered. They ask you if you want to unload it or pay to have it done. If you want to unload it, they say thats fine but do not use any of our equipment. They also want you to sort product and stack it in the way they want it. Or you can pay. It's typically around $200.00. They are thieves and jerks. I wish more people could see behind the scenes. They would not even think aboutspending money there

Jerks, maybe, but thieves? What exactly are they stealing?Nobody has to do business with them.

I suppose this might explain a few things. I don't recommend eating though.

People Of Walmart (Sexy And I Know It - LMFAO) - YouTube

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Vaya con Dios

I guess I'll weigh in here...I'm all for capitalism and of course, selling at a profit. But I also view the gun community as a community that needs to stick together....so as much as I don't mind selling any of my wares for a profit, I will not buy ammo during lean times and flip it for a profit to another....if I don't need ammo and the store is limiting everyone to 3 boxes, I'd rather someone else who needs it buys it....but that's just me.

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Thirty characters. Exactly...

It can get a little frustrating spending $5 in gas for two 50 round boxes of 22 lr or having to resort to trading 9mm ammo online for 22 lr so I can try out my new Ruger Mark III but on the flip side it has been a great blessing that I was able to cash in on an investment I made years ago on a large supply of 7.62 x 39 ammo which at the time was a sacrifice to purchase but patience and timing has blessed our daughter who will be leaving for college next fall.

Russ