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Sure glad you came out of that alright!

Barb had(has) one of those. I always wanted one. Tint the windows and play Cop

Popular Mechanics did a piece on that car compared to the Interceptor. Basically the same other than extra cooling, batter suspension.

They went with the Dodge Challengers, Chargers around here, Those are harder to spot except why do they use the basic rims and flat ugly color. That gives them away.

Highway Patrol with their Mustangs (cars for you Western folk) are the best. Don't see those coming.
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The problem with unmarked police cars is that they full boat you on your coffee and donuts when you use the drive thru.
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We have a hot mustang in our area that patrols I-15 here. It is painted a bright blue and white raceing theam. Either they dont pay good retirement here or the patrolman assigned it is haveing too much fun driveing it as he looks almost as old as me! I bet once in awhile he must get some clowns that pulls alongside of him wanting to race!
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We have a hot mustang in our area that patrols I-15 here. It is painted a bright blue and white raceing theam. Either they dont pay good retirement here or the patrolman assigned it is haveing too much fun driveing it as he looks almost as old as me! I bet once in awhile he must get some clowns that pulls alongside of him wanting to race!
And wouldn't that be hilarious!
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The problem with the Mustang and similar vehicles is that they are too darned small; I can barely get in or out in casual clothes, and I'm only 6'1/230. I never cared for unmarked cars working patrol, because I wanted the people I was contacting to be as confident as possible that I was real deal. I also preferred the better lighting options, without as much glare inside from the inside mounted lights, and I really liked the arrow on the back of the light bar.

For pure traffic, like WSP's mission, there is an argument for the unmarked cars and the weird ones, like the Volvo wagon. However, there are also real issues with people, especially women, being concerned that the stealth cars are impersonators. Most stops should be made by fully marked units.

I was really bothered by WSP because for years they had unlawfully tinted windows in a lot of their cars, and when they got enough pressure about it, instead of having the integrity to fix the cars, they went to the legislature to get an exemption for LE vehicles. This makes the unmarked car concerns even worse, and reflected the lack of understanding and core integrity at the management level. I came real close to giving one of their Sergeants a ticket for the windows on his patrol car before the exemption was enacted.
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On a somewhat related note, how many LEO's here have/had a vehicle
where they could turn off one headlight if they felt the need?

I know of two around here over the years, one was a driven by our
local Conservation Officer and the other was a local Twp Cruiser.

I've done some ride-alongs with our local Twp and the last I knew
they had the ability to prevent their brake lights from coming on.
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We had that in a car I used to drive, because you could not move the shifter out of park without pressing the brake pedal, which gave away your location and movement - a big no-no.
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Switches, switches, we all got sum switches........

On that black car in my post above, I had a brake/tail light switch

as well as a extra low beam on the drivers side fog. That I could run that all on it's own.

Used that when sneakin' into hikin range of them meth lab and such goings on...Out on the rural route.




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What I like is up here the unmarked cars are not unmarked per se. They have graphics on them, that are only slightly lighter or darker than the black paint of the car they are on, and they are only visible from the sides. On the very rear of the car, well there is the plate hunter system, so really if you know what those things are, then you know what you are looking at. The NYSP have cars that have no light bars but have all the paint and graphics so that they are not true unmarked. I remember when I first started the only unmarked cars was our old patrol/Veterans Affairs/County nursing home/health department/Corrections car after everyone else got done driving it first. It wouldn't matter if we ever needed to drive fast (we don't) that old heap couldn't do it and even if you could, the brakes were bad so it couldn't stop.
The GSP has some Chargers like that, they are a metallic gray with orange graphics that are almost invisible except dead-on.
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That sounds too much like a james bond movie. Thats really getting into it too much for most departments. I told this one a year or so ago, but dont stop me. We live in utah. Last year near us I was getting on the freeway and saw a huge suberban, WITH CALIFORNIA PLATES, black and dark windows that had pulled a car over. I knew it was a unmarked the city had/has? as I had seen it around town. I said something about it here and kind of was shouted down. Now while techicly I am told that a leo can pull over someone in a different state, pulling a vehicle over with a unmarked with out of state plates is hard for me to swallow.
I did my career in busy wicked southern california. Yet right here in the barron waste of utah I daily see by FAR more cars almost always with a couple youths in them pulled over with usualy a back up officer or two.
Most usualy the scared youths are standing in the ditch watching the officers go through all their stuff on the side of the road. Why did I not see that in southern crowded california where we had about a 1000 to 1 the traffic?
I think what gets me more than that is obvisely the fact that these kids dont know their rights and/or dont have the nerve to tell the LEO`s to buzz off and call their sergant or captain to come and bring a warrant.
I have heard that I-15 is the main corder for drugs going north in the west. I do know if I had a boy I would educate him better than that to not be so passive with leo and their fishing trips here.
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A while back a WSP trooper stopped by my work place to check something out. He was in his unmarked car so i asked him a simple question if he liked patrolling in it. He said yes and told a quick story about people who pass him at Mach speed only to be surprised to see the Christmas Lights come on ASAP.

That's one good reason to have unmarked cop rigs but what are the others? I know some people who think it should be against the law.

I think that troopers that drive in unmarked rigs have more fun than those who don't. Just a guess.

So what are the reasons for cops to have unmarked rigs? I'm not talking about security or stuff like that, just local highway patrol type.

This kind of ties into the Crown Vic/Chevy car thing.

Well, I believe Caryl Chessman was the last "red light bandit" (rapist) to be executed.
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I have not yet read all the posts here, and I am not going to read all about Caryl Chessman again.

But I can remember a time when people were really against being pulled over by anything other than a clearly marked police car.

Police have always worn the uniform necessary. Originally it was whatever king, and whatever kings required "coat of arms" on his shield. As guns replaced swords the shields got smaller.

Not going with someone who does not look like one of the kings men has always been an issue. Someone pounding on your door at night yelling "police open up" is not just something from an old movie.

And the "Hillside (?) Strangler" would cruise around at dusk and flash a badge at young ladies walking, and tell them he should give them a ride, because its getting dark (or some-such). And their bodies would be found on a hillside, I think with cuff marks on the wrists (was the reason police were warning about someone flashing a badge?)

I once read about a gang hit (Las Vegas?) where two hit men walked up to a guy sitting in a bar, flashed a badge, and took him out in the alley and killed him.

Chicago's Saint Valentines Day Massacre had many gangsters in police uniforms involved.

Anyway it was one of the many reasons they took our fun spotlights away years ago. The car mounted spotlights were fun for spotlight tag on the empty screen, before the drive in movie. But by putting red (plastic wrap? not available yet?) something over the spotlight, one suddenly could play police car on any night.

Anyway it goes back and forth. People get accustomed to being able to watch for police cars and smart departments will put out spotters to clock you and call in a uniform. The departments who put uniformed police in unmarked cars doing traffic work of any kind always ends up being a problem, and stopping it for awhile.

Sheriffs are elected. City police Chiefs are appointed by the elected mayor. When people get paranoid (overly suspicious in a negative way) about police procedures being to easy to copy then stuff must change.

When people are more worried about speeders and drunk drivers the pendulum swings again.
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This couldnt have been chessman as it was the same year he was exicuted but was a attempted copy cat. 1960 I worked in yosemite NP. My good friend and boss, clyde "montanna" folley came back from his days off with quite a story. He went down to I think modesto or one of those towns to see a girl friend. He was driveing by himself on a lonely highway and was pulled over by a unmarked with a red light. He said he wasnt speeding and a guy not in uniform walked up. Clyde said wheres your authority? Guy pulled his jacket back and showed a revolver he was packing and said right here! A car was approaching and clyde noticed the guy was waiting for the car to go by. Clyde scratched out. The guy chased him many miles but dropped back when clyde pulled into a small town. I wish clyde could have got his hands on him. He was one of the strongest most fit guy I knew.
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I remember when 4-way flashers first came out, you could pull people over just by turning them on. Funny.

BTY, I'm not against unmarked patrol cars.
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Some of the local LE agencies use Toyota Camry and Nissan Maxima for unmarked cars. In around town traffic, these cars are quick and handle well. Four door mid-size pick-up trucks are popular too.
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It's tough to see black patrol cars at night even when they are fully marked.

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Here in Ohio you can't be pulled over by an unmarked car. Few years back a guy got a set of lights and was pulling over women, and men, and sexually assaulting them after robbing them.

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From rear to front: Georgia County sheriff car, school bus (students & cheerleaders), school bus (football team & coaches), Georgia County sheriff leading the football convoy at 55 MPH on a 70 MPH interstate on Friday night in the right hand lane. I guess school busses are goverend to 55 mph in Georgia.

In the left lane is a women driver with another woman in a big red Cadillac going 56 MPH and afraid to pass the first sheriff's car. [Remember this is a 70 mph interstate.] Behind her is 3 miles of angry drivers trying to pass the football convoy. It took me 45 minutes to finally pass the Cadillac. I rmember passing at least 4 highway signs proclaiming the 70 mph speed limit.
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It was good when the police went to flashing red light, then rotating red light in center of roof. The light bars across the roof were great.
The red light or lights were first on the side by rearview mirrors I think. Anyway the solid red light was too easy for jerks to copy.
Flashing light, particularly two flashing lights were really good. When they tossed in blue better yet.

It really wasn’t that long ago that small town police still had no radios and at night looked for a red light lit on a telephone pole at center of town. That light told them to go to the station, unlock it, and answer the phone.

As a kid mom warned all of us sternly not to ever get in any car except with a uniformed policeman in a police car. (The only stranger you can trust).

At a carnival once, when I was young (1948? before television?), I remember a full uniform policeman, in modern police car, showing off the first “radio car”. Almost science fiction stuff to look in the open door of that police car and see a two way radio (we listened to one way radio receivers in our houses each night). Obviously the days of the Bonnie and Clyde’s outrunning police cars were over (hey, a two way radio!). No more running for the next county, because he could now call a dispatcher and she would call the next county. Or state? But we did not know that then.

One writer referred to the uniformed police as “Harness Bulls”, who did the heavy lifting. It did not catch on but the point was clear. Bad crimes need immediate response with identifiable police that need no introduction. In bad accidents someone had to get together and give instructions to tow truck drivers and move traffic for them as needed. Detour people onto frontage roads as needed. Firemen and ambulances need to get vehicles close, and not get run over. Someone in plane clothes directing traffic with a weak flashlight is not as good, unless that is all you’ve got.

I was once between cities at midnight, on a mountain highway, with a crowd who had stopped, and a young lady who was breathing, unconscious and not bleeding, laying beside her upside down car maybe 30 or so feet off the road. A medical helicopter was soon above us but could not land until a policeman would arrive and block the highway for a landing spot. Too many trees and hills. We searched the area for anyone else that might have been thrown from the car. Then being late for work I left. Next day I read in newspaper that she had died. Cell phones were the new thing so I bought one.

At that time when a person called 911 on a cell phone the first question that was ask was “what city please” or some such. If you did not have a city name and an address the conversation would get tough to do.

At night our large county had one highway patrol, one county sheriff, and one small town city policeman. They could only communicate because they bought radio shack police scanners that would scan to the others frequency. Maybe if the accident was just a little further down the road, a bigger city was maybe 15 miles away.
Otherwise our Deputy and Highway patrol might have been 50 miles away up the mountain?
If only we could have talked to that chopper. We could have lit up the highway with blinking tail lights. Lit up a landing area with headlights. Obviously the chopper people knew more than us (hopefully - in a perfect world). (In my next life I want to care a little less about others - particularly a young lady laying by the road who might have stopped at the bar after work - who had a corrections officers coat in back of her car - who did not make it past that corner with the ten or so foot rise that was okay for sober people doing the posted speed limit).
Anyway we just needed one marked radio car with a trunk full of flares to block two lanes of a divided highway that night. Or for that chopper to take the bull by the horns and flip on his loud speaker, and shine his spotlight on a landing area instead of just the lady.

(I would not do well as a street cop)
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Mostly they are doing drug interdiction because of the amount of drugs coming from Mexico.
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Well to me there is a difference between an unmarked and an undercover car. An unmarked car is a typical cruiser-type of vehicle with a solid paint color and no lettering or seals on the doors. But you can spot them a long way off. Spotlight, antenna, wheels, etc.
An undercover car is pretty much a normal car. I've even seen 1/2 ton pick ups with a cap, with well hidden LED systems. You'd never guess it was an LEO on patrol.
I don't see them as much as I did a couple of years ago, but here there is a road rage unit on our highways. Undercover. Camaros, Mustangs, cars like that. They hunt the real idiots down, the ones going 90 or 100, weaving back and forth like they are qualifying for a race, driving recklessly and or driving to endanger. I like seeing them out there.

All is fair when it comes to the vehicles the police use. On our interstates, I'd like to see a lot more undercover cars used for routine traffic enforcement.
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My daughter in law rented a black Dodge Charger for a road trip from Alabama to New Jersey. She said that not one car would pass her on the highway.
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It is somewhat difficult to mount a successful surveillance in a marked rig.
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"Undercover" implies a different identity. You don't do traffic stops or any other kind of stops in "undercover" cars. In fact half the cops who claim to be working "undercover" are actually just working "plain clothes". Big difference. A police car that meets the minimum standards to stop someone in a car is either "marked" or "unmarked". Never "undercover".
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Why would anyone think unmarked police cars should be against the law? It's not like most criminals drive marked cars and LEO's are cheating when we don't.
What? Didn't you ever watch the old western movies at the Saturday matinee?????????

The "good guys" all wore White Hats and
the "bad guys" all wore Black hats!

So, we can't do the same thing today..................


I like the unmarked cars myself.........however, a lot of them still have that pump shotgun standing up in between the driver and the passenger seat in front! I can see that thing for a mile.

The police have way too many crazies on the road. Anything that can be done to pull them over works for me!!!
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Actually I think unmarked cars are great. The element of blending in and surprising violators.

How many times have you been on a highway and you see some idiot driving like a maniac, and you think, where are the cops now???!??

I see this all the time, and once, A cop was behind me, threw his lights on, passed me and pulled over an idiot driving like a maniac. I was like, WOW!!

Also, unmarked cars are great when someone calls in a suspicious character or something suspicious at home even a business.

A cop in an unmarked can get closer to the scene without people disappearing as fast.

I think it is a great tool to protect us.
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I hired a student for the summer and he visited from DC (working for an agency there) where coat/tie was normal work attire. At the airport, they somehow rented him a black lincoln towncar. In this town he stood out looking like a fed as much as it's possible to do without wearing a jacket with yellow letters. A lot of people here deal with various three letter federal agencies often but usually on their turf. The agents I know here fit right in

Anyway, I still love giving him a hard time about his fed car... just as he was escaping being a fed, somehow they smelled it on him!

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Taxi cab unmarkeds in Manhattan are just plain evil. The amount of trouble you can find in those things is amazing. Actually, the best vehicle I ever had for going unnoticed was a van borrowed from Traffic Enforcement. During Hurricane Irene we were given some of Traffic's vehicles because we needed extra wheels. I was bagging reckless drivers left and right because they assumed the meter maids were driving it. When the lights came on and a real cop got out the looks on their faces were priceless.
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Does anybody remember that Alabama highway patrol used AMC Javelin's with 401 V-8's back in the 1970's?
Yep, they have one setting in the Dept of Public Safety buildiing in the State Trooper museum in Montgomery. Right now Alabama has more different kinds of vehicles used by troopers than you can shake a stick at. Anything from pickup trucks to SUV, to imports to luxury cars, and in every color of the rainbow. None are marked but come to life when they turn on the blue concealed high intensity LED lights. We still do have the Grey and blue marked trooper cars as well. A lot of the cities and towns are going to plain black with hidden lighting systems for running radar. They merely set along the shoulder of the interstate etc and most folks think its just a plain old car setting there.
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Ah, the memories! I'm doing the speed limit on a two lane road when a tricked out Beemer comes up behind me and flashes his headlights. I can see him in my rea rview, highly agitated and making faces. Seconds later, he pulls along side me and displays his IQ with his middle finger, cuts me off and races on ahead. I gave him about 100 feet and then lit him up. He ran over a center concrete divider and tore out his oil pan, coming to a stop a bit up the road. His first comment was, "Where the xxxx did you come from?" His second was, "The gun and drugs aren't mine." I don't think he ever figured out that it was me he passed. A marked unit took him away and all he ever saw of my plain wrapper was the very bright lights. They were white and blue! Those were the days!
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I worked as a radio tech for several years. We had a contract to install docu-cams in police cars. The hardest one I had to do was a chevy cavalier .

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One of the best arrests I ever made was when driving a 1968 VW wearing a T Shirt & Blue Jeans. A bad guy was holding up a chain store and I was able to slip up on him. By the time he realized who I was he was looking down the barrel of my issued 4" Model 15.

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It appears to me (lifetime car guy) that there are major differences between unmarked and undercover cars.

Undercover are normally just regular cars/PU trucks/SUV that are used by plain clothes LEOs. Regular paint no special lights no special performance engines, suspensions, brakes. Most times no car police radio just the officer’s hand held. Impossible to spot and hardily ever will an officer blow his cover unless it’s a MAJOR problem unfolding. I knew a couple plain clothes cops that drove those rigs and they were totally unobtrusive.

Now unmarked. Those are regular patrol and are normally state contract cars. Same as the regular fleet except with many concealed lights and normally have all the inside cop equipment used by that department + outside spotlight.

Third class here is the “slick roof” same as above unmarked but does have all sorts of police graphics on the side. Some of those graphics are hard to see at a distance but up close very noticeable.

Then of course the totally marked patrol vehicles. The newer lower cars and equipped with the very low type light bar on the roof can sometimes sneak up on you as that bar is sometimes hard to spot!

Now here is something I have never seen commented about when talking about cop cars, and please remember I’m a lifetime serious car guy. Police vehicles (everything but undercover) all have heavy duty suspensions and if you have a very good eye you can spot them just the way they ride as the suspension is stronger. They normally do not bounce and hold a steadier ride and sit a little taller than the same civilian model unless that civilian vehicle has the optional heavy suspension.
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No, what amazes me is when cops use tricks like waiting at the top or bottom of a hill to catch speeders.

They know that some of us with a little sense try to gain some momentum going uphill and try not to stay on the brakes too long going down hill!
A cop worth their grain in salt should tell the different between a driver slowly speeding up down the hill and someone that pops over the hill doing 70/55.

A unmarked car is pretty fun... at least the one time I experiences being in one. You get more people making bigger driving infractions than just them speeding.
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One time, we're rolling up the interstate to an armed robbery call... With shots fired

I jumped off'n a surveillance to head that away....In an unmarked discreet/undercover Buick La Saber.

I got in behind a marked State unit with lights and siren activated doing nine O,
traffic is yielding to the right, we're passing em without much trouble.

Folks must have thought that was a sight...

An old Buick chasin a Crown-Vic with it's light bar lit-up and siren blaring.



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Maybe it's just me but anyone else see a parallel here with unmarked cars and concealed carry....SURPRISE!
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That 32 is just too cool for a cop to drive!

A local PD has a black Pontiac Trans-Am decked out with light bar and the words, "This vehicle was confiscated from a drug dealer!"
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One of the local Police departments (Greenfield Wi) received a 2012 Subaru WRX STI courtesy of a close car dealership. By no means is it undercover, but it blends in surprisingly well. Not to mention, its fast!!
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yeah, but you need to leave the left turn signal on.

I remember when CT ran unmarked Buick Grand Nationals.
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I guess I would prefer the relationship between the police and the public as one of equal partners, rather than hunter vs prey.
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Is that another way of saying "I shouldn't get tickets when I violate the traffic ordinance if the officer is being sneaky about catching me?"

The people who constantly hound the police for "more traffic enforcement", while having no idea of what that does or should entail, prefer to see the relationship as "we tell you what to do and you do it."
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I guess I would prefer the relationship between the police and the public as one of equal partners, rather than hunter vs prey.
Spend a week driving in Vegas, especially at night, then see how that is working out for you.
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Now that's a strange post. Any LEO worth his/her salt goes looking for bad guys. And it makes no difference whether it's traffic enforcement or other duties. To suggest that makes non-LEO's "prey" is ridiculous.

Cops are not firefighters...they are proactive...if they are doing their duty properly. (This is not meant in any way to be disrespectful to firefighters...I love them...and would be too scared to do what they do!)

Sure, people tend to obey the law when there are LEO's in their sight; it's what they do when they think no one is watching is what is important.

Each and every day I was on the street I was looking for trouble...and to solve problems. You cannot do either whilst sitting in the station.

When driving non-traditional vehicles it was simply a delight to deal with those who said: "I didn't know you were a cop!"

Suspect the poster is anti-law enforcement of any sort.

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I don't have a problem with unmarked police cars. I got a ticket for 10 over on I77 just as I crossed into VA. The car was a Chevy Monte Carlo SS with mag wheels and tape stripes. That was in 1986.

Here in NC the Highway Patrol uses Dodge Chargers, Chevy Trailblazers and I hear they have some V8 Cameros. There are also a few very old Crown Vics.

The Animal Control Officer is a sworn officer in the Sheriff's department. They told me he does occasionally write a ticket and when he does they usually get a complaint that the "dogcatcher" gave me a ticket. He drives a pickup with cages in the back.

In NC you can call the Highway Patrol by dialing *HP on your cell phone. If you have a question about who is stopping you, I would make the call.

Traffic enforcement here in the Asheville area is done by SHP, the Sheriff, and APD. We have pretty good coverage.
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Spend a week driving in Vegas, especially at night, then see how that is working out for you.
I can give you places in Philly and Trenton just like that. Newark NJ, Camden NJ....

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I remember an incident in Indiana. I was driving on SR 37 between Bloomington and Indianapolis. I was doing the limit (55) and an unmarked car pulled out and followed me for several miles. I set the cruise at 55, the unmarked car kept following waiting for an opportunity to pounce. He finally got bored and turned around. That is the kind of behavior I am talking about. Yes, a marked car could do this too, but I've never observed them doing it.
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