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Old 08-03-2013, 09:29 PM
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I really like this show. If its on, I gotta watch.

I admire people who can be self-sufficient and live off the land.

Not sure I could handle living in the Kavik region.

The 29 year old trapper really impresses me with his skinning skills and animal knowledge.

Still can't get over the couple that dresses their fish, caribou, etc right in the house on cardboard. Agnes is the guys wife. She knows how to make short work of a kill.
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And she uses a Fin Mosin Nagant to hunt!!! Sweeet! :thumbup:

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And she uses a Fin Mosin Nagant to hunt!!! Sweeet! :thumbup:

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She has made and missed some long difficult shots with that old smokepole. It looks like its hasn't been cleaned since IKE was Prez. The M-N is known to be one of the toughest most accurate rifles in the world but- she really needs a scope! I'm a little embarrassed to tell you that I have several top notch scopes that I haven't used in years. She's up there trying to feed her family with those God awful ancient iron sights.
The other folks on that show all have new looking scoped rifles and handguns. The other lady Sue has a selection hanging on pegs by the slings. Never have quite figured out exactly what her story is. She lives in what seems to be an old comm site, radar site, mining location? She hunts for food but is able to pay extortion rates to have fuel flown in.
I am amazed at the dedication the other couple has to their dogs. It takes a lot of fish to feed that many dogs. And a lot of work to get that fish.
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The other lady Sue has a selection hanging on pegs by the slings. Never have quite figured out exactly what her story is. She lives in what seems to be an old comm site, radar site, mining location? She hunts for food but is able to pay extortion rates to have fuel flown in.
What does she do in Kavik?

Is that her job?

I never heard why she is there and what she does.

Did you see when talked about a bear crashing through her hut and she shot it with her rifle?

She's tough, I will give her that.

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Here's the story from the shows website:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...th-sue-aikens/


"How long have you been living and working at Kavik River Camp? How did you get started there?
This is my 11th year here. I was asked by the owner to come and be a caretaker for the place, since he has known me for a long time and knew I did remote-lifestyle work."
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:29 PM
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Good show !!
I like the young man who is by himself. He knows what he's
doing with traps and a gun. Sue the older lady living way up
there in the encampment is kinda out there. You can tell she's
lived alone for too long. Scared of every little sound she hears
outside and makes it sound like she is always at deaths door.
Those folks all have a harder bark on them than i do, thats
for sure. I hate Indiana winters bad enough. Could'nt do
Alaska.

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She has made and missed some long difficult shots with that old smokepole. It looks like its hasn't been cleaned since IKE was Prez. The M-N is known to be one of the toughest most accurate rifles in the world but- she really needs a scope! I'm a little embarrassed to tell you that I have several top notch scopes that I haven't used in years. She's up there trying to feed her family with those God awful ancient iron sights.
The other folks on that show all have new looking scoped rifles and handguns. The other lady Sue has a selection hanging on pegs by the slings. Never have quite figured out exactly what her story is. She lives in what seems to be an old comm site, radar site, mining location? She hunts for food but is able to pay extortion rates to have fuel flown in.
I am amazed at the dedication the other couple has to their dogs. It takes a lot of fish to feed that many dogs. And a lot of work to get that fish.
Fins tend to have better sights. Im wondering if she's using hunting ammo or standard surplus fmj. Surplus quality and consistency will vary from lot to lot and country to country but it is cheap(er). Roughly $100/440 rounds. Still though, those are far shots she takes ...and that wolf on the run!!!

The other lady lives in a working station used by scientists to study weather and the nearby forest. Its privately funded, sh's just a caretaker. Btw you can rent a room there by the day/week, with shower or without, with food or without

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What does she do in Kavik?

Is that her job?

I never heard why she is there and what she does.

A little more info from HER site.

http://www.kavikrivercamp.com/

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As to the Mosin:

I spent a great deal of time living with the Natives on the West Coast (Seward Penn.) when I was in the Alaska National Guard. I was the XO of A company (St Lawrence Island) and CO of B company (which consisted of Shishmarif, Brevig Mission, Teller, Wales, and Little Diomede).

These people don't have much money, many survive on their Guard Checks, or carving ivory for their income. Substances is the way of life, so buying ammo is a big expense. I would bet the ammo used in the Mosin's is surplus.

Mosin's weren't popular back then but 223 & 308 was because the used guard ammo. When scudelling qualifications and marksmanship training I would order more ammo then needed to give it to them.

Later when I started running sniper schools using M1C/D, '06 got popular again. It kind of dried up after the army switch from the M1s, to the M14s and 308s became popular.

So yes this ammo is fmj stuff for the most part. I leaned that the natives weren't any better then any other group of people when it comes to shooting. They just shoot lots.

I was in Brevig Mission when they brought in a whale. I asked the boat captain how many times he shoot the whale. He said, "box and a half of 458 and 2 1/2 boxes of 223. Take into account he was one of 8 guys in the boat. The whale dies of lead poisoning.

I had an NCO who bought a 458 Win Mag, thinking it would help him with walrus & whales. Only after getting the gun he couldn't find nor afford to shoot it. St Lawrence Island had a lead cable stretched across the island years ago (some sort of commo cable I assume).

I told him to go chop up some lead from the cable and I'd fix him up. So the next time I was in Gambell (largest of the two villages on the island) I brought him a bullet mold, lee reloader, powder, primers and some brass. He was set up for some cheap shooting.

But mostly, the people I knew used guard ammo.

They also aren't the best people in the world for taking care of equipment. They would leave their rifles in the boat over winter, come spring after setting in ice for months, the guns were useless.

I met a guy who went around the villages trading rifles and he'd take them apart, sell what he could. He sold me "6" model 70 actions for $235 for the 6.. I made some great rifles out of these actions.

These guys are great people, I miss my time I had with them. If anyone gets a chance, visit these villages, well worth the trip.

You'll be met at the airstrip and I can guarantee the first two questions you'll get is "Want to buy ivory" and "you got pot"

Anyway, you can bet when Mosin's went to $99 and ammo less then $200 per 880 rounds, these people will be shooting Mosins with their Guard Ammo.
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I've experienced life below zero down here on the Gulf Coast -
I refused to buy my wife that Prada purse she wanted from Nieman Marcus and then she found out about the new Beretta Xplor 400 I bought....................................................................................
the "chill" she's creating could reverse global warming.
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A little more info from HER site.

Kavik River Camp

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WOW! Av gas is $9.50 a gallon there! Understandable considering the transport costs I know!
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Still can't get over the couple that dresses their fish, caribou, etc right in the house on cardboard. Agnes is the guys wife. She knows how to make short work of a kill.


That is Chip and Agnes Hailstone. Chip is a regular member on another gun forum and goes by the username of Caribou. He has been posting stories and pictures of their subsistence lifestyle for several years. One of the few reality shows on T.V. I enjoy. I could do without the Sue Aikens drama, but she is an amazing woman that survived a Grizzly attack, by sewing up her own head and arm before crossing a river, tracking down the bear and killing it.
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Beat me to it on the Hailstones. I read his threads over on the "other" forum They are cool. See the one with all her guns?I like the show also.

Would not want to deal with 'Sue" she is a little nuts
Guess ya gotta be. I went see the place when the camp is open if they have a fall or one day of summer.
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I've been telling my wife how cool it would be to visit Alaska.

She's not into it.

Mainly:
a.) Too cold
b.) Too many Grizzlies
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Fun "Facts" from the TV Show Wild West Alaska

There are more bears in Alaska than the population of Anchorage.

Per square mile how many people would there be per sq mile if the density was the same as NY City?(or something like that)

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Where is Sprefix?? He lives out there somewhere??
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Brown/Grizzly Bear Hunting Information, Alaska Department of Fish and Game



Alaska has an estimated 30,000 brown bears statewide.

Brown Bears to me = Grizzly
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Beat me to it on the Hailstones. I read his threads over on the "other" forum They are cool. See the one with all her guns?I like the show also.

Would not want to deal with 'Sue" she is a little nuts
Guess ya gotta be. I went see the place when the camp is open if they have a fall or one day of summer.
A little nuts???? She scares the snot out of me!
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A little nuts???? She scares the snot out of me!

I saw the show once. She was playing quickdraw with a Ruger in a hotel room.

I got the feeling that she talks just as much or more when she's alone as she does when the camera crew is there...
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I got the feeling that she talks just as much or more when she's alone as she does when the camera crew is there...
I do that too; doesn't everyone? When I answer myself in a diferent voice I get worried a little.
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I do that too; doesn't everyone? When I answer myself in a diferent voice I get worried a little.
Not me, pal. I'm talking to my dogs, I swear. So far they haven't talked back, which I guess is good.
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