Anyone here ever hear of an "Apache Gun?" and other oddities

the ringo kid · Oct 17, 2013

I never seen one till watching that Pawn Stars show.

They look like:

While im thinking about them--a Ring Gun:

Demothier Revolver Knife:

Revolver Carbine:

I wonder if the Bowie Knife/pistol is still being made? and if so? how much do they cost?

old bear · Oct 17, 2013

Nice photo essay.

Thanks

pawncop · Oct 17, 2013

I've seen pictures only of what you describe, but did see a palm revolver on display at a restaurant in Denver, called Buchanan's I believe. It has liquor license number 1 from the state of Colorado on display as well.

shouldazagged · Oct 17, 2013

I wonder if that's Apache as in somebody's idea of an Indian artifact, or Apache as in French tough guy. Did the all-knowing Rick Harrison say?

My old eyes couldn't read maker's marks. May have to look into that.

Weirdly interesting.

Dashriprock · Oct 17, 2013

pawncop said:
I've seen pictures only of what you describe, but did see a palm revolver on display at a restaurant in Denver, called Buchanan's I believe. It has liquor license number 1 from the state of Colorado on display as well.

That would be The Buckhorn Exchange -- great place!

feralmerril · Oct 17, 2013

I seen them called knuckle dusters years ago and then there was a similar gun to that one with many barrels that they called a duck foot or something similar.

Just looked it up. Here ya go.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19702_7-awesomely-insane-guns-people-actually-used.html

snubbyfan · Oct 17, 2013

There's a display case full of those odd little guns at the NRA museum.

Cyrano · Oct 17, 2013

French urban thugs around the turn of the century were called Apaches because of their wanton violence, and they used a lot of these type pistols.

2152hq · Oct 17, 2013

Dolne 'Apache' Knuckle Duster. (Louis?) Dolne was the maker/patent holder. His name you can see on the right side of the frame at the front.

The Apaches were a somwhat organized gang of thugs that operated in larger cities of France. Very basic & cruel in their methods of street crime.

The French made versions have the greatest value. Belgian made copys were made also and were somewhat common at shows 30yrs ago or so. Once in a while a collector sported a 'real' French made Apache.
People who collected this oddity type stuff still paid more for a Chicago Palm Pistol than one of these,,at least back then.

Now they'd probably confiscate the thing around here for being 'brass knuckles' .

the ringo kid · Oct 18, 2013

old bear said:
Nice photo essay.

Thanks

Quite welcome, I was going to also include Bowie Knife/Pistols and a few others but had a call inviting me out to dinner--dinner won.

the ringo kid · Oct 18, 2013

pawncop said:
I've seen pictures only of what you describe, but did see a palm revolver on display at a restaurant in Denver, called Buchanan's I believe. It has liquor license number 1 from the state of Colorado on display as well.

I kind of wonder if a palm gun is another name for a zip gun? Ive seen cane guns, bicycle pump guns--but im guessing those were home made or the cane gun custom?

the ringo kid · Oct 18, 2013

shouldazagged said:
I wonder if that's Apache as in somebody's idea of an Indian artifact, or Apache as in French tough guy. Did the all-knowing Rick Harrison say?

My old eyes couldn't read maker's marks. May have to look into that.

Weirdly interesting.

Your correct, he did say that and he pronounced the word more like: Au pah che--for lack of a better spelling. Some "expert" came in claiming the piece there that it was worth about $3,500 and of course the guy low-bid at I think $1,200? I was glad the seller decided to keep it.

My eyes are tired as well and I cant make much out for markings though someone did point out a name on the fancy decorated piece.

Rpg · Oct 18, 2013

pawncop said:
I've seen pictures only of what you describe, but did see a palm revolver on display at a restaurant in Denver, called Buchanan's I believe. It has liquor license number 1 from the state of Colorado on display as well.

Buckhorn Cafe otherwise known as Zietze's At 8th and Osage

Thuer · Oct 18, 2013

The Dolne was also in .32 rimfire. This combined pepperbox, knive and nuckleduster is unfortunaly forbidden in Holland due the nuckleduster.

walnutred · Oct 18, 2013

I think the most interesting firearm oddity I've ever actually held in my hand was at the OGCA show in the late 70's. A man was walking trying to get information on a Nazi belt buckle gun he claimed to have brought home after WW2. Pre internet days that was one of the items you heard vague rumors about but never expected to see in person.

BearBio · Oct 18, 2013

the duckfoot was a design often used in percussion days as an anti-mutiny and anti-pirate gun.

sipowicz · Oct 18, 2013

"Apache gun" is politically incorrect...it is now called an Apache thing that should be banned.

UncaGrunny · Oct 18, 2013

Looks like a great way to simultaneously cut off your own fingers whilst blowing off your thumb at right angles.

LoboGunLeather · Oct 18, 2013

sipowicz said:
"Apache gun" is politically incorrect...it is now called an Apache thing that should be banned.

How dare you associate such instruments of violence with those peace-loving gentle Native American people? Racist rhetoric! Apaches may have engaged in kidnapping, slavery, and barbaric torture, but there is absolutely no known record of the use of any combinations of knuckleduster, dagger, and revolver. The Apaches were just "old school" vicious; it took Europeans to come up with such diabolical devices.

shouldazagged · Oct 18, 2013

UncaGrunny said:
Looks like a great way to simultaneously cut off your own fingers whilst blowing off your thumb at right angles.

There's a fine mental image! Has a nice Inspector Clouseau feel to it.

The pronunciation of the slang term for French thugs is, I think,
"Ah-PASH".

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