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Old 12-24-2013, 09:30 PM
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Without seeming to be a killjoy, it is impossible to determine shot placement on unrecovered animals.
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@336a please clarify how you can shoot multiple calibers from a 20 ga shotgun I hope I'm not misunderstanding your post here if I am can you enlighten me on what it is your saying in this post.

There are, basically, chambers, that can be put into larger guns.

Some are just chambers, so you can use a smaller cartridge that is the same caliber and use your normal barrel. Like 32ACP in a 30-caliber rifle.
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Others have some barrel attached to the chamber. That lets you chamber, say, a 30 carbine in a 12 gauge, or a 45/70 in a 20 gauge.

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A shotgun can have tubes placed in the barrels to reduce the gauge. This doesn't work so good with rifles.
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:08 AM
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ok I guess I learned something today I knew you could change handgun calibers like 40. to 9mm or 357. sig with barrel swap but not long guns.
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Old 12-25-2013, 03:20 AM
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so if I understand correctly these would be mostly for break open actions only as putting a insert in my 12 ga for a 30-30 or 357 could not really work for a pump action am I right.
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:12 AM
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Well, a rifle could be changed, but you're right, it would have to be the whole barrel and chamber. Then you'd have an added complication of action length. The best combo, just like handguns, is .38SPL and .357Mag. You already have that.
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You could probably do it, but it would be a pain in the butt.

You'd have to pull the barrel, to get enough room to put the chamber-and-barrel in. A three-inch chamber with eight to ten inches of barrel attached would be hard to get through an ejection port.

You could then load the "sub-caliber" round through he port, but once you close the bolt, the shotgun's extractor will grab the adapter, and after you fire it will want to extract and then eject that adapter.

I suppose you could cut a notch on the edge of the adapter, so there is nothing for the extractor to grab. You'd just need to put the adapter in the gun the same way each time. Then after firing your (for example) 30/30 in your 12 gauge 870, you open the bolt, then set the butt on the ground and run a 22-caliber cleaning rod (that's the size I would use) down the shotgun barrel, and then into the rifle barrel, to knock out the fired 30/30 case.

Really be easier to open up you H&R Topper.

I know a guy with a 16 gauge Husqvarna underlever hammer-gun. He has a 45/70 insert in the right barrel. Made himself a "cape gun".
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Also, even with a break-open, you'd have to mark the adapter so it gets back in the chamber the same way each time. If the adapter is rotated, the point-of-impact can (and most likely WILL) change.

It is my understanding that that is how you regulate it. Put it in your gun and mark the adapter at 12:00. Shoot it. If POI agrees with POA, wonderful. If it does not, open the gun and rotate the adapter, right or left, reload, shoot again, see how POI moved.

Once you have POI agreeing with POA, mark the adapter. A small file-cut on the rim at 12:00 would work. That way, whenever you put the adapter back in the gun, you put the notch at 12 and you should be good-to-go.
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Yes, only used for break open shotguns. Usually, over under skeet guns. Read all about them here: Briley Manufacturing, shotgun choke manufacturer and gunsmithing - Sub Gauge Tube Sets
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Without seeming to be a killjoy, it is impossible to determine shot placement on unrecovered animals.
No offense taken as I knew very well how that rifle and load shot out to 100 yards. I was able to take the shot at the doe from a stable (prone) position and settled the cross hairs right behind the shoulder. The two bucks were recovered as stated in my first post. Either way IME it dosen't matter. At the end of the day it certainly didn't perform as well for me as my shotguns have, nor offer the verstility. From ducks to bucks, no matter.

REVL33, some of the adapter such as the 3" can be used in pumps. However the longer ones are better suited to break action shotguns. Here is another place to look as well Short Lane
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I recently read where John Taffin said that if he could only have one center fire rifle, it would be a .357 Lever Gun. I agree.
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I recently read where John Taffin said that if he could only have one center fire rifle, it would be a .357 Lever Gun. I agree.
As much as I like my Marlin .357, if I could only have one center fire rifle I would go with the 30-30. Let's face it, the 30-30 just gets the job done and it has much more knock down power than pistol cartridge rifles.
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