I have a real problem with using the word harvest in hunting situations.
One kills game catches fish and harvests the crops.
I don't harvest ducks, I kill them and then I pick them up. I don't go harvesting-I go fishing. I catch a fish take him off the hook and put him in the ice chest.
I can see me walking into the camp demanding a latte and announcing that I harvested a limit this morning after which I went fishing and harvested some nice catfish. Yea right...........
More like:
"You kill?"
"Yea"
"Want a bloody Mary?"
"Yea"

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We shall come rejoicing bringing in the sheaves.

Com'on consigliere, you're a wordsmith by profession. Harvest is such a gentle, politically correct word that doesn't have the same effect on the bleeding hearts that continually attempt to strip us of our hunting and fishing privileges. Admittedly, a shot of Jack or a bloody Mary back at the camp is great but you have to accommodate all those Cosmopolitan sippers as well. Gotta give those Fish and Game boys credit for trying to preserve their jobs and our game harvesting rights.

The word "harvest" is meant to appease those folks who think that instead of engaging in the barbaric ritual of killing God's creatures ourselves, we should buy all of our meat from Supermarkets and restaurants where "no animals are harmed in the process".

When I was a little kid I thought that was "bringing in the sheeps".

Ed

Agree with it's just more PC policing.

Thank god someone said this. I've been dying to say something. It just didn't make any sense to me but I figured that as a foreigner I was missing something in the language.

For some reason it actually bothers me to no end. I'd rather shoot myself in the crotch than hear "harvesting animals"

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Bloody Mary? How sophisticated. Usually when I "KILL" a deer my buddy hands me a beer and we take an occasional pull from Jimmy Beam while skinning.

I have had the same thoughts, harvesting a deer just doesn't sound right. I tried it a couple of times at cocktail parties, trying to be sensitive to others of differing thought process, but it didn't work for me. Lately when asked what I have been doing, I say I killed two deer so far this season or whatever it may be. If I get the OMG look and the question, "How could you do that?" I go into my detailed explanation; "first you have to find yourself a deer, then you put the crosshairs right behind the shoulder and squeeze the trigger. One shot in the right place is all it takes to kill them." If they are still around after that, I tell them how a .280 to the neck really knocks them in the dirt, that I am very good at killing deer and I like it. I learned a long time ago that you change very few perceptions. Maybe if you can get a venison hors d'oeuvre down them without them knowing you may get a convert, or at least entertainment from the gag reflex. God made me a predator, I hunt, I kill, I eat. I am not ashamed of who I am.

Appeasement worked real well for Neville Chamberlin.....I'm 58 years old and I ran out of my lifetime supply of "appease" about 9 months ago. Whatchagonnado????

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Harvest animals? Are you kidding? The PC loons are people who've become alienated from the source of life. In my opinion, people deserve to eat meat only if they're willing to kill the animal that provides it.

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I agree... But I think the use of "harvest" is not only PC, but is an attempt to imply something special about the "harvester".

I have the same reaction to a gun being called a "tool".

But that's just me.

But what I don't get is, how can you rejoice unless someone else brings the rope or wire cable to go around 'em?

As to the original post: Counselor and responders, "harvest" is a perfectly acceptable term in game management, since in that context your horned friend is a resource, and precision in language is an admirable thing. Can you imagine trying to say that the annual "kill" of deer in Louisiana was such and such?

Likewise, "kill" is perfectly acceptable in its context of hunting, since you are pursuing the fair chase of a critter with the hoped-for result of its demise and addition to the pot, as is "catch" in its piscatorial context as you engage in that activity.

PC has nothing to do with the discussion, at least IMHO, but since some would have us believe it is hiding behind every tree, I guess it's not hard to "find."

As for our friend Arik, my sympathies go out to him in trying to decipher this English language of ours.

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Arlo was thought to have a psychological problem, and was seeing a professional. In his words:

"And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
Wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
Guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
He started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
Yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
Sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy." "

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Its like "terminate the bad guy" Hell, ya just kill 'em!

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I grew up knowing you harvested fruit and vegtables and killed meat. It's stil the same today IMO.

I have 3 daughters and when I would get back from a hunt at least one of them would ask if I "caught" anything......I would always "roll my eyes" and tell them for the 1000th time that I wasn't fishing, I went hunting and that I "killed" such and such or that I didn't "kill" anything.

Don

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I consider shooting deer under a corn feeder "harvesting." This may ruffle feathers, but shooting deer under a feeder while sitting in a deer blind is not hunting in my opinion. I have shot a few (2) deer under a feeder, and several hogs, and I don't see a problem with it. In-fact some people can only ethically kill an animal while it is holding still under a feeder, just don't call it "hunting." This style of "hunting" is closer to target practice, or picking out a lobster from a tank seeing as all sport and most skill is removed. What I consider hunting is walking/stalking land that requires you use cover and keep track of your wind.

Here it is so close to Christmas and discouraging words, about "words" are being spoken. If we all not all careful, we will end up like Phil on "Duck Dynasty" with our role on the show suspended until further notice.

So much for the first amendment. Phil needs to talk to Paula.

By the way, I vote for "Kill" versus "Harvested"! I only hope my role on the reality show isn't suspended! Oh wait, the reality is that I don't have a reality show but, I live in the world of reality!

Caj,

I can just picture it. Salt marsh, trolling motor easing along, you come around the point, working a Shartreuese cigar minow for reds and almost run into Troy from Swamp People. "He Caj, you harvestin any" says Troy in the deep cajun dialect. A new buzz word is born. Sorry, "My Bad."

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Dis B. Leaf

Havesting. That's what you do when the deer is in your garden.

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Torn & Frayed

LOL I'm sure many of you have seen/read the recent Bambi lovers society crisis... "no animals were harmed in the making of this film". Right from the start it's been a lie from an organization fraught with lies, corruption, fraud, payoffs and LOTS of maimed and dead animals despite claims otherwise (for the right price of course).

It seems like the bad guys are not harvesting as many convenience store clerks in my neighborhood as they used to. Doesn't that sound nice.

I'd say you have not so much a problem as a peeve.

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I can't think of "harvest" without thinking
I am the harvester, the rabbit is the harvee....

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I have a 16 ga. Model 1912 Winchester harvester. It was made in 1915 so it's an almost 100 year old harvester. Hunted with it the other day. It's a fine handling harvester. It's a hoot hunting with a harvester that's essentially a century old. I do have to get short shells for it. It's a 2 9/16" chambered harvester. They sure don't make harvesters like they used to.

My favorite harvester is my 16 ga. AyA SxS harvester. I also have a little 28 ga. SxS harvester. I use it a lot grouse hunting in the mountains because it's so light. When I duck hunt I use a 12 ga.Beretta gas harvester.

They all kill stuff right pretty.

Better answer than "Nobody you knew..."

Shouldn't that be "grouse harvesting" and "harvest duck"?

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I always take precautions

I refer to what I do as "murdering deer." The PETA people won't get anywhere near me, and that's the way I like it.

I don't think it's necessarily a PC or misused term. From the Oxford English Dictionary, the last word (no pun intended) on words:

harvest: definition of harvest in Oxford dictionary - American English (US)

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I have a 30/06 harvester.....actually it's a M1 Garand made in the 50s by International Harvester. I guess that anything shot with it would be "harvested".

I see the common usage of words and terms being "changed" all the time to reflect PC values....sadly I don't think the Oxford English Dictionary is imune to that trend. 35 years or so ago the #1 definition of Gay was as an adjective meaning light hearted and carefree...that's not the #1 definition today.

I detest political correctness run amok ...... we hunt and kill animals, we catch fish, & we harvest crops IMO.

But to each there own and we all have our own prefrences.

Don

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To play Devil's advocate - - OED ain't the standard which once it were:

ain't: definition of ain't in Oxford dictionary - American English (US)

We go out and "neutralize" them.

The DOW in CO has used harvest as long as I can remember.Always thought it was silly.Had an uncle that raised hogs when he was a young man,I can't quite picture him using that term lol.

And you can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant.

Exceptin' Alice.

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In some states...well, never mind, that's illegal anyway.

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Oh well, what the hell.

"...rejoicing..."

That's a bit like saying "I liberated a Twinkie from the packaging".

No, I ripped that sucker outta it's wrapper and woofed it down in one bite.

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A quick look at Google Books finds the phrase "deer harvest" used as early as 1913 in an old California Fish and Game bulletin: Game Bulletin - Google Books

Here's a "turkey harvest" discussed in 1920: The Breeder's Gazette: A Weekly Publication Devoted ... to the Interests of ... - Google Books

A search for "trout harvest", "squirrel harvest", etc. harvests (see what I did there? ) similar results dating long prior to the PC era.

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I have been known to sit in the restaurant and order "murdered baby cow parmesan". It confuses the waitress and annoys my daughter.

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I always take precautions

That's OK with me. You can go hunting and havest something and I'll go hunting and kill something. Kinda like you say to-mah-toe and I say to-may-toe.

Don

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Growing up we harvested corn, wheat, potatoes, apples; we butchered cattle, hogs and chickens. We hunted deer, you either got a deer or you didn't. it was understood that butchering and hunting was killing a living breathing creature.

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Now you mention it, I had an International Harvester pickup,(long time ago, when buffalo roamed) and I hit a young buck while heading to the ranch up in Real County, I stopped and tossed him into the bed, so I'm gonna say that deer was truly "harvested".

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I hear you. I have a few of those little words/phrases that irritate me too. One of them is "clearly". These are harmless little things that don't even deserve a second thought but for some reason or other a lot of people find them irritating.

I think I know why. Could it be because the people that use these terms are generally the type that get on our nerves anyway? Do they hear them said by others and then try to impress us with how cool they are by using them in conversations? Does it irritate us even further that they don't even realize that to us they are not cool, they are IRRITATING twerps? Some people just feel compelled to find new ways to say things. But I ask you...Who needs it?

Well, maybe not in every case but I'd be willin' to bet that this is the case for some people....I know some of them myself.

After I got all this figured out I started trying to not let it bug me so much. I'm not quite there yet but I'm workin' on it.

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Right, it's been a conservation term for generations. I'm sure it sounds more PC today, but strictly speaking it's always been a technical term used in setting bag limits and preserving the health of herds of game.

Having said that, in my hunting days I killed critters, and called it that without apology.

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Yeah, when we attended Powels Chapel, my little brother Dan sang bringing in the Sheets, Mom washed "every day" and hung sheets out on the line.

Harvesting an animal is not a new term. And I think it is technically correct to use it not for PC reasons but because that is really what you are doing. Yes you killed a deer you also harvested the meat from it. But I use kill instead of harvest all the time. But when you really think about it harvest is a much better term for the activity. Think of this but lets first agree that plants are living organisms yes, then when a farmer harvests his crops for use consumption or other wise does he kill them yes he does. Just like you killed a deer or any other game animal. Its a technical term used in wildlife management. To harvest is to use that animal, its meat and/or hide or what ever for what ever. To kill is to shoot it and just let is lay there. If it helps make the sport seem less barbaric to the people who are against it isn't that just a plus for us.

I think harvest is a good term for the politicians who fund fish and game programs. Sort of instill the idea that management efforts provide a "harvest". Sounds nice we have provided abundance all you have to do is go and bring it in.

Me too. I thought it was written by ladies while doing laundry.

Go out and harvest the enemy.

So, is it only 'harvesting' if the animal is dressed out for consumption?

Or does shooting undesirable but inedible varmints (like coyotes) also count as harvesting?

If yes, then pretty much every animal on the planet is harvested eventually, whether by hunter, predator, accident, or old age.