General Robert E. Lee. A Gentleman's Gentleman.

the ringo kid · Dec 20, 2013

The General on his beautiful Horse, Traveller.

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A nice studio portrait:

One of his most famous photos. I did this in pencil for my final exam in Art class in High School:

General Lee w; his Son, General George Washington Custis Lee, and Colonel Walter H. Taylor:

Robert E. Lee when he was in Texas:

A great painting of Lee and of the most beloved Sons of the South:

Lee's Wife and daughters:
Mary Curtis, & Agnes--third daughter Annie has no known existing photo:

They don't make them like him anymore.

sheepdawg · Dec 20, 2013

A lot can be seen in the way the Union troops treated him at Appomattox. A true American gentleman and hero. His tactics are still studied by militaries throughout the world.

I'm afraid his most honorable reputations are being sullied by today's liberal professors and history rewriters.

the ringo kid · Dec 20, 2013

sheepdawg said:
A lot can be seen in the way the Union troops treated him at Appomattox. A true American gentleman and hero. His tactics are still studied by militaries throughout the world.

I'm afraid his most honorable reputations are being sullied by today's liberal professors and history rewriters.

Amen to all of that. I remember part of a story of one of his exploits as an Engineering officer during the War with Mexico. I need to refresh but, what I gathered from that story, was he was NOT, short on bravery.

To this day, he is my most favorite General of all time.

Faulkner · Dec 20, 2013

I have a picture of Lee hanging in my office.

Philadelphia Patriot · Dec 20, 2013

Not to get too off topic, but what do you guys think about Longstreet? I want to start studying him next, but I have heard some of the material on him is biased, blaming him for losing the war for the Confederacy.

the ringo kid · Dec 20, 2013

Faulkner said:
I have a picture of Lee hanging in my office.

Sometime in the new year, im going to be buying a couple Lee prints from Don Stivors, Dale Galleon and Don Troiani--all will have Lee in them.
This is one of Troianis works im looking at:

And another:

This one looks great to and is by an artist ive never heard of before, Bradley Schmehl.

Paul Strain is good too:

These are the Stivers
Lees, I like:

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The other:

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On a separate note, I like this Don Stivers print about British Major John Andre after he was captured during Operation? Gustavus:

sheepdawg · Dec 20, 2013

Longstreet will forever be tied to the Confederate loss at Gettysburg, whether deserved or not, for failure to attack a position early in the morning as ordered by Lee and disagreement with Lee about Pickett's Charge.

Still he is considered by most to be one the best generals of the American Civil War.

He lived to the ripe old age of 82 even though he had been severely wounded in the war.

Philadelphia Patriot · Dec 20, 2013

sheepdawg said:
Longstreet will forever be tied to the Confederate loss at Gettysburg, whether deserved or not, for failure to attack a position early in the morning as ordered by Lee and disagreement with Lee about Pickett's Charge.

Still he is considered by most to be one the best generals of the American Civil War.

He lived to the ripe old age of 82 even though he had been severely wounded in the war.

That's the impression I got. Having Lee at the head, the daring Jackson on the right, and the (what I consider from what I have read thus far) cautious, practical Longstreet on the left you have a pretty solid structure. I didn't even mention Pickett or Jeb Stuart yet...

S&W45Colt · Dec 20, 2013

sheepdawg said:
Longstreet will forever be tied to the Confederate loss at Gettysburg, whether deserved or not, for failure to attack a position early in the morning as ordered by Lee and disagreement with Lee about Pickett's Charge.

Still he is considered by most to be one the best generals of the American Civil War.

He lived to the ripe old age of 82 even though he had been severely wounded in the war.

You are correct. However, the decision to continue past Day 1 was a poor one on Lee's part, Lee bears ultimate responsibility in the loss at Gettysburg. Gen Ewell, of Lee's subordinates, would be the most responsible for the loss IMO.

Longstreet had many successful campaigns, Antietam and Fredericksburg being two of them.

It should be noted Longstreet and Lee debated the coming campaigns over the winter and Longstreet was against an offensive approach, Lee overruled him and took the offensive. Some have speculated this was the motivation for Longstreet's delays, I think that's a reach. He did indeed delay, but by only a few hours, not most of the day.

After the war, Lee admitted Longstreet was one of the first Generals to comprehend that technological changes no longer gave the advantage to the aggressor, but to the defender.

It's an interesting what if to ask what if Lee had agreed with Longstreet and played the role of the defender in 1863. It could be argued the South would have won the war by attrition of public support in the North, a great "what if."

S&W45Colt · Dec 20, 2013

Philadelphia Patriot said:
That's the impression I got. Having Lee at the head, the daring Jackson on the right, and the (what I consider from what I have read thus far) cautious, practical Longstreet on the left you have a pretty solid structure. I didn't even mention Pickett or Jeb Stuart yet...

Bragg was the one the South would have been better off without.

bovw · Dec 20, 2013

I'm replacing a broken General Lee coffee mug for my FIL, he's accustomed to "coffee with Bobby Lee every morning" in his words. He considers General Lee the second greatest man every, behind Jesus.

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red14 · Dec 20, 2013

bovw said:
I'm replacing a broken General Lee coffee mug for my FIL, he's accustomed to "coffee with Bobby Lee every morning" in his words. He considers General Lee the second greatest man every, behind Jesus.

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I named my son Robert Edward, Lee and my father,
were/are my heroes.

''Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things.
You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less.''

''Never do a wrong thing to make a friend or to keep one.''

''I cannot trust a man to control others who cannot control himself.''
Robert E. Lee

Kinman · Dec 20, 2013

A couple of years ago I was telling someone about how boring I find driving long distances, and anything a little over a hundred miles is a long distance to me. He told me about E-Books and loaned me one that was told from Traveler's point of view...It was a great story with somebody like James Earl Jones reading the part of the horse. I think the name of the E-Book was simply Traveler. I turned it on shortly after leaving the house and hitting the interstate, next thing I knew I was approaching my destination after nearly 300 miles of driving.

the ringo kid · Dec 21, 2013

It was instilled in me by both parents as I was growing up, to be proud of all parts of my heritage. They be, American, Southern and Texan. As a kid, I had a buckskin outfit, cowboy hat, and when we went to Little Rock, Arkansas, I had my 1st Reb Kepi. As a teen, I had the Battle flag on my wall above my bed surrounded w/ swimsuit posters featuring Kathy Ireland.

Guess ill go out that way minus Kathy Ireland. :-(

goldenlight · Dec 21, 2013

I remember reading, somewhere, that he was the only person to ever make it through West Point, without getting a single demerit. Amazing.

He was a far better general than anyone else, during the Civil War.

His troops practically deified him.

I also remember reading that the Arlington Nation Cemetery is on land taken from R. E. Lee, during or right after the war.

The story I read was that it was used as a National Cemetery specifically so he could never recover the land that was basically stolen from him.

vito · Dec 21, 2013

On a personal level General Lee was by all accounts a most honorable and respected gentleman. But don't forget he made a choice to accept the leadership of the Confederate forces after first being offered command of the Union army. His loyalty to his state of Virginia was stronger than his loyalty to the United States, despite his oath of office as a commissioned officer in which he pledged his loyalty to the United States of America, not the Confederate States of America. As such he became an enemy of this country. You might not be aware that the U.S. Army War College is currently considering the removal of his official portrait from the college, along with that of General "Stonewall" Jackson, on the basis of them being enemies of this country and who took up arms against the United States.

1morethan8 · Dec 21, 2013

Should we remove this too?

jack the toad · Dec 21, 2013

vito said:
You might not be aware that the U.S. Army War College is currently considering the removal of his official portrait from the college, along with that of General "Stonewall" Jackson, on the basis of them being enemies of this country and who took up arms against the United States.

In this day and time... I'm not surprised.

Faulkner · Dec 21, 2013

Philadelphia Patriot said:
That's the impression I got. Having Lee at the head, the daring Jackson on the right, and the (what I consider from what I have read thus far) cautious, practical Longstreet on the left you have a pretty solid structure. I didn't even mention Pickett or Jeb Stuart yet...

I think one of the biggest "what if's" of the war is what if Jackson had not been fatally wounded at Chancellorsville. It is quite possible that Gettysburg could have turned out much different.

1morethan8 · Dec 21, 2013

If we keep removing the threads of our country's history...

What will be left?

General Robert E. Lee. A Gentleman's Gentleman.

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