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Old 12-21-2013, 02:32 PM
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statement from our "Leaders" regarding the Short Hills, N.J. shooting of the young lawyer in front of his wife at the upscale mall several nights ago. Wonder where they got the guns? I thought N.J. was on top of this gun violence thing?
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statement from our "Leaders" regarding the Short Hills, N.J. shooting of the young lawyer in front of his wife at the upscale mall several nights ago. Wonder where they got the guns? I thought N.J. was on top of this gun violence thing?
Sounds just like what is going on increasingly in the U.K.
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:23 PM
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There won't be a media follow up. They made arrests and that'll be the end of it. Don't fit the liberal cast of "crime." Joe
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It's very difficult for me to express what I think about this case without violating the rules here.

The "it-can-happen-anywhere-crowd" is already hard at work telling us to ignore the elephant in the room...and I find that almost as outrageous as the crime itself.

I hope justice is done...eventually...some way...
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I wonder in NJ had a "stand your ground " law and concealed carry; and the young gentleman had exercised his option to protect himself and his wife would there be a different spin on it?
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Apparently the carjackers were part of a ring.

Four taken into custody in fatal Short Hills mall carjacking in New Jersey - NY Daily News
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I wonder in NJ had a "stand your ground " law and concealed carry; and the young gentleman had exercised his option to protect himself and his wife would there be a different spin on it?
My take on the story was he was ambushed. A gun will not help if you are shot four times before you know there is an attack going on. It was a sad ('outrageous') story.

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My take on the story was he was ambushed. A gun will not help if you are shot four times before you know there is an attack going on. It was a sad story.
With all due respect, I would substitute the word 'outrageous' for the word 'sad' in your post.

When someone dies after an illness, or is killed accidentally, that's sad. What happened here was an outrage, the kind of thing that would have been unthinkable in this country only a half-century ago.

As the father of two sons who are about the same age as the victim, I cannot imagine how his family feels. And the more I think about this crime, the reality of it, and the social and political conditions that made it possible, the angrier and more upset I become...
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My take on the story was he was ambushed. A gun will not help if you are shot four times before you know there is an attack going on.
He let his wife in the vehicle and was walking around to his door. I can't believe he had zero awareness. I think he was "hoping" to get in and drive off before they moved on him. Armchair quarterbacking is easy for us but if he was packing it could have turned out differently. Joe
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you have a long wait on your answer from the authorities or any of the usual news organizations I think.
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I say that this a Race crime. If it was the other way around their would be plenty of news covering this murder.
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I know of two political big mouths who will remain silent on this one.
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