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Old 02-01-2014, 06:02 PM
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If one who serves their first year is not considered a rookie anymore then I am not one but still may be considered a "novice."

First off, is it "grips" or "stocks?"

Now to my question. I bought a new Ruger LCR 357 with Hogue Tamer grips from the factory. I really like them and do not know if I could handle it without them? Later in the year, 2013, I bought a friend's Ruger 357 Security Six from his estate sale. It has Pachmayr grips.

A good friend and gunsmith remarked that the later is much better than the former. Why would he say that about the Pachmayr grips if one compares "apples to apples?"

I have priced both and they are for sure more expensive. But does more expensive translate into "better" in this case?

Give the old guy a little help please.
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:07 PM
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Smith & Wesson has always called them "Stocks". There is a writeup about that very thing, in the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson.

Ruger knows what they are doing, in using the Hogue "Tamer" grips (Ruger calls them "grips"). I think that the Hogue grips are superior, but I am one in many millions of voices.
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:22 PM
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Steve Herrett Gun stocks by Herrett's Stocks, Inc. said in some magazine article I read years back, "They're 'stocks'. I carry my spare clothes in a 'grip'."

I see his point, and recognize his point.

But I still call 'em grips.
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I was brought up with 'stocks' whether it be on pistol or rifle but as time has passed, it seems 'grips' is used when talking about pistols and 'stock' when talking about a rifle. Either is correct, I guess. I prefer wood on my pistols so can't comment on Hogue vs. pachmayr.
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Stocks go against your shoulder, grips go in your hand. YMMV
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Generally if they're rubber I call them grip(s). Wood and they're "stocks." I guess a Dan Wesson would have a "stock." .

I think semiautos have "grip panels?"
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Hello all:

If one who serves their first year is not considered a rookie anymore then I am not one but still may be considered a "novice."

First off, is it "grips" or "stocks?"

Now to my question. I bought a new Ruger LCR 357 with Hogue Tamer grips from the factory. I really like them and do not know if I could handle it without them? Later in the year, 2013, I bought a friend's Ruger 357 Security Six from his estate sale. It has Pachmayr grips.

A good friend and gunsmith remarked that the later is much better than the former. Why would he say that about the Pachmayr grips if one compares "apples to apples?"

I have priced both and they are for sure more expensive. But does more expensive translate into "better" in this case?

Give the old guy a little help please.
Hello,

I am still in a quandry as to which is the best of the two brands?

Ideas?

Thanks.
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:04 PM
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That's one of those very subjective questions for which there is no one correct answer for everyone.

The one that fits your hand and feels better to you is the better of the two for you. It could be the exact opposite for someone else.
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I am still in a quandry as to which is the best of the two brands?
Neither. Grips are mystical. Stocks, too. Fit in the hand, affect on firearm dynamics, perceived recoil -- all hugely subjective.

The best is the one that works for you.
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:11 PM
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On the "stocks" vs "grips," my opinion is that for handguns the two are interchangeable, with the primary difference being that the supercilious among us insist upon "stocks."

(The truly correct term is "squeezoes," although to be frank so far I am the only known person, dead or alive, who understands this particular point of fact. )
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Rhetorician, you may not know this, but you have ventured into one of the great mysteries of all time. It's right up there with the .45 Colt vs. .45 Long Colt debate, clips vs. magazines, and Mary Ann vs. Ginger.

As Juliet Capulet says in Act II, Scene 2 of Romeo and Juliet, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." So, whether you call 'em "grips" or "stocks," they serve the same function...it's somethin' you hold on to.

Now, Pachmayr or Hogue? I've had both, and personally, (and let me emphasize personally) I prefer the Hogue grips. Why? Heck if I know. Why do some guys prefer blonds to redheads? Your guess is as good as mine.

Bottom line...try 'em and see which one you prefer.
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You all forgot to mention "Handles" and "Goodyears"
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If you put a Tyler on a Ruger it's grip adapter.

If you put a Tyler on a S&W it's a stock adapter?
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