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Painful!
While I love the beauty of a Smith revolver I find that everytime I pull the trigger on one (loaded of course) the knuckle of my middle finger gets slapped painfully. This has happend numerous times and with several models (.357 buff here). I'm told it is a problem with the triggergaurd shape on Smith's but have my doubts.
Anyone else experience this or have a fix for it? I hate flinching but that is what it is driving me to and I sure as heck don't wanna give up my revolvers.
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08-29-2014, 05:54 AM
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It is the grip. I can't shoot any S&W without target grips.
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A grip adapter such as Tylors T-Grip or another brand. I have them on all my J-Frames and some K's and my 1917. They change where you place the top of your hand a little and lower your knuckles by about 1/2 inch, and that moves them back about 1/4" of so. They used to be inexpensive, but have jumped to around $35 plus now. They are great for CCW as the don't snag on cloth like rubber grips do. Ivan
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08-29-2014, 06:41 AM
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Take a look at images of the typical Magna service grips and a target grip and you will see that a good 3/8-1/2 inch of the space under the frame at the rear of the trigger guard is "filled in" by a target grip. Same thing happens when you add a Tyler T grip filler to a revolver wearing Service grips. Believe me, it does make a HUGE GIANT difference because you won't get your knuckle smacked even once no matter how stout the ammo.
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08-29-2014, 07:03 AM
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CAUTION! Tyler T-Grip company has been, shall we say, remiss, in delivering the goods in a timely manner. There are threads with hundreds of pages detailing the years-long wait time, no-shows, and hassles. They deal with Checks only, they have no no telephone or email, and you get them when and if you get them. If you chose to deal with them, you now know what you're dealing with.
Tyler T Grip company shutdown - shipping again
There is one forum member who got so fed up that he started his one company: BK Grips. I have not used them but folks seem happy.
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08-29-2014, 07:21 AM
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Dang! Talk about response time! I'm barely awake and already I know it isn't "me" and there is a fix! Thanks all. I now have some info to research....and there's this model 19 I've been eyeing.........
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Difference in Grips
Here are pictures of my S&W M28 Highway Patrolman with the standard grips and the over-size target grips. You can see how the grips change the way your hand is place on the the revolver. I can not shoot the .357 mag. with the standard grips. I have to put the over-sized grips on it so it is comfortable to shoot.
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08-29-2014, 11:40 AM
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The grips have to fit!
When S&W provided better grips, there was a better fit of the hand. Coke grips are no longer made by S&W, but Kurac (member here) makes them.
For off the shelf, I like Hogue, but many like Ahrends and others.
The stock grips S&W provides these days are trash IMO.
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08-29-2014, 12:26 PM
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If you want to shoot get Pachmayer rubbers grips if you want to look at pretty grips (stocks) then wood.
Their new Diamond Pro is very nice synthetic if you don't mind it made in China I bought a set and they are great.
Pachmayr® Pachmayr your primary source for quality handgun grips and recoil pads
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Anyway we can get a pic of the grip you use in holding a revolver. I'm not referring to the stocks but the way you grip the gun.
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When I shoot a lot of rounds (3.5gr BE, 158gr LSWC) thru my 642, I sometimes wear "mechanics gloves" to absorb some of the recoil.............the trigger guard gets my finger too. Don't know if it would work on other models.
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If you want to shoot get Pachmayer rubbers grips if you want to look at pretty grips (stocks) then wood.
Their new Diamond Pro is very nice synthetic if you don't mind it made in China I bought a set and they are great.
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Another vote for Pachmayrs. Not pretty (though not as ugly to my eye as some others), but excellent for secure hold and recoil absorption. I've used the same set of Compacs for sixteen years of daily carry, and they're still good. I recently bought a set of the Presentations for a Model 10. They most definitely aren't pretty, but they give a much more comfortable hold for my messed-up hands. Both models nicely fill the space behind the trigger guard.
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The Tyler T Grip will improve the grip for the majority of people although a rare few do still have a problem even with it. You have to accept that it's a very small & lightweight gun shooting a relatively good self defense round.
Last year I finally broke down and had a custom set of Ivory grips made for my 60-7 which are a bit oversized and have eliminated the need for the Tyler T grip (for me). By eliminating the T grip there is more relief between the back of the trigger guard and my fingers so I no longer have any contact with it when the gun is fired - - even with Buffalo Bore +P's. Now you don't necessarily need Ivory (I just love it) but wood will work fine as well. I sent the grip maker my specific specifications in thousandths of an inch indicated on a drawing just where I wanted the grips to be larger and he actually listened to me and made me exactly what I wanted - a rarity these days! The extra work cost me a few choice cigars but it was worth it.
PS: It's hard to see in this photo, but while the grip does not extend past the frame, it is THICKER than Factory grips and fills my hand perfectly.
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Man, you gotta...
Man, you gotta get that fixed! I can't stand the thought of one of my S&Ws hurting me. That is unless I ASK for it.
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Try some Pachmayrs. Have used several models and some of their competitors on multiple guns.
Anytime recoil is coming or you just don't want to mess up your nice grips, it's rubber time!
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Put your knuckles on a diet. Seriously, I have slim surgeons'/pianists' hands and I get less beat up with handguns that all of my friends with ham hands. I never get slide bite, either. It baffles them no end.
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With Smith and Wessons its all in the grip, at least for me. I bought a 629 Mountain Revolver and with the round butt factory rubberized grips I found it uncomfortable to shoot. I contact John and asked him if he could make me a set of square butt target grips to fit a round butt N-frame, he said "Yes." I asked him to make me up a set and couldn't have been much happier. I did go ahead and send it off for a quadro-port job which also helped a ton with full-house "high bear encounter" loads.
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I finaly got to shoot my new to me M57 and now I have a god aweful bruise on my knuckle.. looks like its time for pachs or something. Darn its painful...
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Thanks guys. I just bought a 686 with 3 inch barrel that I can comfortably shoot. . . Unless I grip it too tightly...Then my knuckle tends to raise up higher and get whacked. Good advice in these responses and will take note when looking at other pieces.
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The correct answer is not the same for every hand and every gun, but a good starting place is that it is not the trigger guard, and classic S&W grips, both Magna and target, **** *** ****** ***** (are non-functional from the git-go). The Magna can often, but not always, be corrected with a Tyler or its equivalent. The target grips can often be fixed with a rasp, some files and sandpaper and some Tru-oil, but it is easier and cheaper to sell them here and buy new (or used) commercial grips. Usually Hogue or Pachmayr grips are the best-fitting grips around, but not for everyone, and, of course, some folks don't like what some of them are made of. Rogers/Safariland grips are also great for some folks.
Usually cheaper to buy grips for retail at a brick-and-mortar gun store where you can try them before you buy them, than to buy several pairs of nonfunctional grips at reduced prices by mail. However, eventually you get to know what works for you, and then mail-order sales may be best.
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I've never understood the design of wood grips on revolvers, regardless of the brand of revolver. I don't personally know anyone who didn't swap them for something else.
The wide at the bottom, skinny at the top shape makes the angle all wrong, hard to grip, and the recoil painful. The JM wood grips on the 625 are the only ones I've found that are somewhat tolerable.
Even if you don't like the rubber grips, the shape of Hogues are vastly superior. Several companies make wood grips that are shaped similar and are probably much better than factory.
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My little 37 no dash airweight used to smack my knuckle pretty good. I adjusted the firmness of my grip. I just have the original magna's on it. I only shoot standard pressure loads too. My .357 model 65 has grippers on it and they work fine. Still had to tighten my grip some to stop the knuckle whackin'.
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