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Terms that gnaw on my nerves
Maybe I am just getting old,but as watching Bryan Williams on news the subject of the unfortunate aircraft downing came up.He referred to the "jet liner" and that was ok,but why do he and the newer people refer to "bomber jets" and "fighter jets".That to me is like talking about "truck diesels" or "train electrics".I have always been an aviation enthusiast and have been flying for 65 years and flew JET FIGHTERS and that's what everyone called them until the last few years.Makes me want to get a "rifle assault" or ""gun machine". Sorry,maybe I need to eat supper.
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Let's see if I can do this. I have a heavy duty peeve with the reports of civilians getting killed in certain areas of combat activity.
They are all Civilians! They are very specific rules of international law which define Military Combatives. When you fight for a terrorist organization you do not meet that criteria.
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There are no more REPORTERS.
Just a bunch of talking heads who have no idea what they are talking about.....just blah,blah,blah..............
They are hired for looks or heritage only. Must be politically correct on the big tube!!
I NEVER watch TV News.................it all sucks.
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Could they be regionalisms? Like soda, pop, and coke? Everyone is from somewhere.
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What irks me is when the 'newscasters' feel the need to bore viewers with inane stuff that everyone knows.
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"Could they be regionalisms?" If you mean like the "yous" and "yous guys" in the Philly area, it still isn't correct grammar. That seems to have escaped the "Editors" of most media these days. The "Ivy League" education most these people get, didn't allow for this poor grammar and 'make it up as we go' style of reporting. This is coming from the management going for ratings instead of maintaining a standard that the people will emulate. At these rates the country will again fall into regional dialects that won't be able to understand each other (as it was in the civil war times). The movie industry chose the mid-west accent as a standard and that slowly became the almost national form of pronunciation. Now we are reverting to "Regionalisms" again and soon "Bad" means 10 things across the country (I can think of 3 already). Rant over, without apology. Ivan
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Could they be regionalisms? Like soda, pop, and coke? Everyone is from somewhere.
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It's not how they say it, it is what they say.
It bothers me and apparently it bothers some other people too.
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I hope you did.
I understand what you're saying, it's just that now I have a peeve I hadn't really thought about before.
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It used to bug me when people called the Metrodome the Metronome, but I'm over it since they tore it down.
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My pet peeve is adding the word "at" at the end of a sentence that does not need it. It's "Where are you?" not "Where are you at?".
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How about harrasment pronounced harrisment? Would you say "I was harrised?" Or don't harris me? Or she was being harrised? Apparently that pronunciation is so common even my phone's autocorrect is changing harrasment to harrisment but then it also sometimes does things like chance us to is, which makes no sense because us is a perfectly legit word spelled correctly so why would you even suggest changing it.
I forget what word it was but I was watching some interview and the guy being interviewed pronounced a word in an unusual way, perhaps a regional thing or a non native language thing, and the interviewer from that point on also pronounced it that way. Struck me as quite an odd thing to do.
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I always considered the talking heads on TV news to be a bunch of dorks, Ahem, I meant to say educated dorks. If they knew as much as they claim they would not make the gaffs or errors. The gal on MSNBC last night is an example.
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My pet peeve is adding the word "at" at the end of a sentence that does not need it. It's "Where are you?" not "Where are you at?".
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One that caught my ear when I came to the US was "change that out" for replacing a part. If you are going to replace something surely it is implied that the original comes out, there's only room for one in the hole.
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How about harrasment pronounced harrisment? Would you say "I was harrised?" Or don't harris me? Or she was being harrised? Apparently that pronunciation is so common even my phone's autocorrect is changing harrasment to harrisment but then it also sometimes does things like chance us to is, which makes no sense because us is a perfectly legit word spelled correctly so why would you even suggest changing it.
I forget what word it was but I was watching some interview and the guy being interviewed pronounced a word in an unusual way, perhaps a regional thing or a non native language thing, and the interviewer from that point on also pronounced it that way. Struck me as quite an odd thing to do.
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You beat me to that one. It's harASSment. (hope that one doesn't get me another ding).
Missus Fan was talking about the ottomans in our living room yesterday and kept calling them Autobahns. I said "Doll, that's a highway in Germany".
I still love her though.
Yes, she's a blonde.
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Or how baseball broadcasters MUST use the word "allude." (...as you alluded to previously, Tim...) I never saw or heard this word until it became de rigueur to use it recklessly on BB telecasts.
Reminds me of the high school classmate who would "lard" his replies with "high-falutin" words he had just read. One day he met his match with a mispronunciation. The counselor, a brilliant man, replied: "The word is pronounced 'xxxxx', Mike, and incidentally, it's the wrong word."
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i've mentioned this......
I've mentioned this, but it irks me so:
Nuclear = New + Clear or New + Clee + Are
It is NOT = New + Kew + Lar
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There are no more REPORTERS.
Just a bunch of talking heads who have no idea what they are talking about.....just blah,blah,blah..............
They are hired for looks or heritage only. Must be politically correct on the big tube!!
I NEVER watch TV News.................it all sucks.
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Don Henley nailed it with "Dirty Laundry". And that was 30 or so years ago!
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My pet peeve is adding the word "at" at the end of a sentence that does not need it. It's "Where are you?" not "Where are you at?".
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Mine too, you do NOT end a sentence with a preposition.
That being said most kids now-a-days would not know a prepopsition if it walked by and said "Howdy"
My dear mom, a school teacher, used to alway say between the "A and the T" if I asked where was it at.
And she always told me "Do not say AIN'T, because AIN'T ain't right."
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Don't get me started on local pronunciation. Where I now live, it's INsurance, not inSURance as its supposed to be. I'm used to it after 30+ years, but it still leaves me shaking my head! On the subject of reporters, gone are the days of the greats like Walter Cronkite, Roger Mudd, Charles Kuralt and others I admired as a young man. They didn't just read off a script, actually researched some of their material and weren't just talking heads and ad libbers who flubbed their way through a broadcast. News isn't the same anymore, but, at 66, nothing is. "And that's the way it is".
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I remember when you could not tell one radio or TV announcer from another and definitely could not tell what area of the country they were from because they all had very fluent diction and pronunciation. I can also remember when the use of the word ain't would get you a D in English class now it is apparently so common it is even in the dictionary but it still does not make it right in my way of thinking.
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How did they get on TV?
I remember one talking head reporting something about Montevideo, Uruguay. Montevideo is pronounced Monti-v-day-oh.
The talking head referred to it as "Monty-video, as in video game.
Then, there's the matter of train and boat drivers. You don't drive either. Trains are run or operated by motormen or engineers.
You may sail or pilot a boat. Don't try driving one.
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Let's review...(I'm stalling)
At the end of the day....(I'm erecting a straw man)
So, to sum up.....(I'm going to repeat the lie I just said, using some different words)
Let me be clear.....(now that you are wondering what the devil I've actually said, here's some more)
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The local TV news around here will report a story...then go to Facebook or some other blog or comment section on the internet and report what random people are saying about it!
Idiots!!!!! (would do a mad emoticon if I knew how).
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Let's see if I can do this. I have a heavy duty peeve with the reports of civilians getting killed in certain areas of combat activity.
They are all Civilians! They are very specific rules of international law which define Military Combatives. When you fight for a terrorist organization you do not meet that criteria.
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Yeah, like innocent hostages being killed by police.
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Don't get me started on local pronunciation. Where I now live, it's INsurance, not inSURance as its supposed to be. I'm used to it after 30+ years, but it still leaves me shaking my head! On the subject of reporters, gone are the days of the greats like Walter Cronkite, Roger Mudd, Charles Kuralt and others I admired as a young man. They didn't just read off a script, actually researched some of their material and weren't just talking heads and ad libbers who flubbed their way through a broadcast. News isn't the same anymore, but, at 66, nothing is. "And that's the way it is".
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Walter Cronkite? Really? I had no use for him after what he said on air about the Viet Nam war towards the end of it. Glad he's gone and hope he's roasting down under.
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The whole world is going to hell and I should be worried about proper grammar? What I dont like (even on fox news) is being told or influenced on how I should think about some event. Just give me the facts as Sgt Friday would say. What do I care what Juan Williams take on the latest event is? Why dont they ask me MY opinion? I have lived in some isolated areas of life where I probley have more "experiance" to form a opinion than those high paid contributors do and I will work cheaper.
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Cargo jet
Passenger Jet
Fighter jet
Works for me without losing too much sleep over it.
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Exactly the same, enough said.
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A person who sell real estate is a REALTOR. Two syllables. Not a real-a-tor.
I've noticed that lately people are confusing leery and wary and coming up with "weary" as a word for being leery or wary about something. I am weary of hearing it.
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We have issues not problems in this thread, why? Loved one pass away they don't die, why? Is it because we must be a kinder, gentler, people? Why do we avoid certain words? They are perfectly good words.
Why must the "talking heads" make the news dramatic? "Today a man was shot with a GUN on the street!" Drama! As has been said "just the facts, ma'am." On one of my local channels one of the weather guys looks like he's dancing or needs to visit the little house out back. He'd be more convincing if he'd stand still but I guess his boss thinks it's great. I turn him off.
I'd appreciate it if the "talking heads" would learn how to pronounce the names of the areas and towns they are talking about before they speak.
Sorry for the rant.
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I use the word "ain't" as a word of emphasis, as in "That just ain't right" for example.
The word that bothers me is "wheelgun" to mean a revolver. I ain't got no wheels on any of my revolvers.
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A review of aviation writings shows the common usage previously was "jet aircraft","jet fighters" and "jet bombers".it would be interesting to see just when and by whom the change in nomenclature was made.
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WHAT???!!! They tore the Metronome down. Where are they going to play ballbase now? Will it still be by the aerodrome where all the flying machines go forth and back? I'll bet the soda sales people were upset.
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I love "Aeroplanes" that use petrol and use Aerodromes. How come we dont speak english? I thought they talked proper. Evidently when words get "*******ized" a hundred years ago and became accepted are now okay and modern all new attempts are now wrong?
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Webster's: re-al-tor. Even real is a 2 syllable word, but reel is one syllable. Now, eat you potahtoes.
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Anonymity.....
"The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to...blah...blah, etc...."
I don't care why he refuses to have his name mentioned so don't waste my time telling me why.
90% of news stories use this "condition of anonymity" baloney. Of course, the reporter can't say, "We can't tell you who told us this confidential bit of news but..................."
And how about "shell casings" to describe the brass picked up by the cops at the scene of the crime?
Then there's "...between he and I".
Or "different than.........."
Okay, that's enough.
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Well as long as we are on this subject. Probably is spelled P-R-O-B-A-B-L-Y not PROLLY and is pronounced PROB-AB-LY. Now I need to go eat a snickers.
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What do I care what Juan Williams take on the latest event is?
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Don't even get me started that that "reporter" - NAH, whatever. He changes sides from demonkrat to republican each year or so and all of his "takes" are at least a half bubble off of plumb!!!
The man is weird....................
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07-19-2014, 02:14 PM
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Thought of two more words people pronounce wrong and I always correct them on it.
Creek It rhymes with stick, not seek.
Pumpkin. Rhymes with dunkin'.
At least that's the way we Iowans say them.
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Now that we have had our grammer lesson. I would like to say that it realy gets my ire up when ever some one refers to a shotgun as a (shotty).
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I have a question.
Why is it that when I see someone write about their Remmie or their Mossy or their Springer or their Deagle, I want to reach through the monitor, grab them by the throat and strangle them.
Yet I own several Huskies. I own Remingtons, not Remmies, Winchesters, not Winnies, Springfields, not Springers. But I own Huskies.
Why is that?
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I hate it when some try (but fail miserably) when trying to say the word:"Nuclear." Some say its Nuqular.
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"Income disparity." Every time I hear some self-important fool drone on about it, I figure add my annual income to Warren Buffet's and divide into 2 halves. We'd both have exactly the same amount and "disparity" disappears. Joe
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The very English way of saying harassment is: Harrisment. Then again ask any Briton & they'll tell you we're all wrong. We drive wrong way, spell everything improperly, no "u" in our spelling. They say 'in hospital' vs. our 'in the hospital'. Gas is flatulence, not petrol for your auto. Etc.
Ironic since we Yanks tend to pronounce as it's spelled whereas the Brits say it however they want.
An Englishman once told me: "We're two English speaking nations divided by a common language."
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