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Old 08-29-2014, 07:16 PM
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Took up riding when I turned 50. Bought a new Road King as first bike and loved it. Sold it to buy a Heritage Springer 2 years later because I LOVED the look. Sold it in 07 and haven't ridden since. Now retired(62) and wanting to ride some. Never ridden a small bike (except in the cycle safety course(hated it). I'm a big guy 6 ft 250 lbs but don't want another Harley(can't afford it) so am considering a used metric. Don't want anything heavier than a Road King and preferably lighter...but need some storage room and comfort . Looking for recommendations as to what to look at. Always loved the Goldwing look but that's even heavier than a HD.
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After I sold my electraglide I bought a Kawasaki KLR 650. So nimble dependable, and fun. Its a dualsport, I loved to ride on bumpy dirt roads. No idiots and the long travel suspention soaked up the bumps. There are so many after market goodies, you can make it meet any need. Way more fun than a Hog. I put 70,000 miles on the 2 I had.
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Check out the BMWs like their 1200...awesome bikes...plenty of storage with add ons.

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Plenty of room but lighter. Easy on the wallet.

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Check out used Suzuki Bandits, especially the 1200cc version...
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There are many out there. Boulevards, V - Stars, etc. will have sitting straight up where a sport cruiser like my FJR 1300 will have a little lean. Depends on style really.
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Storage room, comfort, lighter weight,V-twin plus much more performance than you'd expect...take a close look at a Suzuki V-Strom. They are marvelous bikes and I'd still have mine if I were as tall as you.

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It really depends on what kind of riding you are planning on doing. Are you planning on long runs or just short runs? I'm 6' and 150 lb. and have been riding a Honda 97 Spirit since well May 8 1997 with my wife at a whole 100 pounds. This bike has 116,000 miles on it and the wife has at least 80,000 of those miles on the back seat. We haven't really done any real riding in the last 5 or 6 years or so because we've been everywhere within a 3 day riding range. I would say it is a smaller bike at 1100 cc but it works really well for us. I have been as far west as Colorado, twice, into Texas and many other states and with wife and I have been up into Maine, her longest trip. If you are going coast to coasts with your bride this bike would be too small. I could do it sole easily. I do have saddle bags and a "T" Bag which comes with a roll that straps one top. We can carry everything we need for a 2 week ride with one stop at the laundry mate.

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Storage room, comfort, lighter weight,V-twin plus much more performance than you'd expect...take a close look at a Suzuki V-Strom. They are marvelous bikes and I'd still have mine if I were as tall as you.

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A second vote for the Suzuki V-Strom. I have been riding H-Ds for years and about three years ago decided that I 'needed' a smaller/lighter bike for everyday use going to the store, etc.. I bought a used 650cc V-Strom and really like it so much the big H-D just sits in the garage unless Mrs. Big Cholla is going along. I'm a little smaller than you are so the 650cc has proved to be just what I 'needed' :-). I would recommend you go for the 1100cc model. All sorts of bags are available. I went with hard side bags and a big semi-soft top bag. I can carry so much stuff that lately I have been going to the pistol range on the Suzi. ............ Big Cholla
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A second vote for the Suzuki V-Strom. I have been riding H-Ds for years and about three years ago decided that I 'needed' a smaller/lighter bike for everyday use going to the store, etc.. I bought a used 650cc V-Strom and really like it so much the big H-D just sits in the garage unless Mrs. Big Cholla is going along. I'm a little smaller than you are so the 650cc has proved to be just what I 'needed' :-). I would recommend you go for the 1100cc model. All sorts of bags are available. I went with hard side bags and a big semi-soft top bag. I can carry so much stuff that lately I have been going to the pistol range on the Suzi. ............ Big Cholla
I second, I mean, third the Suzuki V-Strom.

I have a two bikes in the stable, a Harley Electra Glide Ultra and a V-Strom. Mine is also the 650cc and these bikes are just about bullet proof, very low maintenance, great fuel mileage, realitively light weight and nimble, and a lot of fun to ride. I've made a number of overnight and several multi-day trips on my V-Strom without any issues at all. The 650 Strom runs very, very smooth.

Some folks do two up touring on them but that's what my Harley Ultra is for. In fact, my wife has ridden with me on my V-Strom exactly one time and within a half mile from home she beat on my helmet and said "take me home, I don't like this thing." I think the creature comforts of the Harley spoiled her.

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Old 08-29-2014, 11:18 PM
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If you are looking for a cruiser you cant go wrong with the V Star (Yamaha) 1300 Tourer.
Tourer model includes windscreen and hard lockable leather covered bags. This bike LOVES the highway.
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My favorite bike I had was a Suzuki 1200 bandit. She's a touring bike with the heart of a motorbike.

If I ride again it will be another Suzuki bandit or if I reach my weight loss goal of 250# I'm thinking of a MV AGUSTA F4. She's the Lamborghini of motorcycles.
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If you're wanting to stay with a cruiser, take a hard look at the Kawasaki Nomad. It's in the same weight range as the Harley. For something lighter, the Kawasaki 900.

I always thought that if I got back into riding, something like the 650 V-Strom looked appealing.

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I picked up a used Wing two years ago (then found out my back wouldnt let me ride for more tan 20 minutes...my arms go numb) in a swap. I was shocked at how well t b ey handle! Heavy, though.....if I could still ride I'd be wanting a new Indian.
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I know you said you didn't want another Harley, but you said it was because you couldn't afford it. Have you checked into the used Harley market lately? It has changed quite a bit since 07. Sure used 103s are expensive, but pre 09 96s and 88s before that have come down drastically in price, and they are still wonderful machines. Just a suggestion and I hope you find what you want. Riding is one of life's pleasure that I wouldn't want to give up!
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Another vote for the 650 V-strom, the KLR650, or my favorite 650-class dual sport bike, the Suzuki DR650. Any one of these will allow you to ride places you would never think of taking a Harley.

I recommend against cruisers of any make, because the feet-forward riding position does not afford good control of the bike, and makes it difficult, if not impossible, to stand on the pegs when encountering an obstacle.
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I too had my eyes on a V- storm as an upgrade from the KLR. I am seeing a pattern here. Don't get me wrong those cruiser bikes are great on smooth pavement, but a dual sport opens up a lot of roads you didn't know existed. BiggB
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I know you said you didn't want another Harley, but you said it was because you couldn't afford it. Have you checked into the used Harley market lately? It has changed quite a bit since 07. Sure used 103s are expensive, but pre 09 96s and 88s before that have come down drastically in price, and they are still wonderful machines. Just a suggestion and I hope you find what you want. Riding is one of life's pleasure that I wouldn't want to give up!

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I'm just getting started on an 83 Goldwing. I thought maybe that I should have my head examined for getting a bike 200 lb. heavier than my old one (74 BMW) but it's surprising how light it feels when you're moving. With that big, flat engine down low and the gas tank under the seat the center of gravity is really low. Once you get past 83 the Wings really started to pick up weight. I believe 84 is the newest that you can get a standard (no fairing and luggage). Craigslist always has a bunch of old Wings for sale cheap. (BTW, I'll be turning 60 in a few months)
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Sell off a few guns and get the 2015 Road Glide. Everything else is a compromise. They are ~$20k but you get a lot of bike that'll do everuthing you want and do it well. At the end you will still have resale value to boot. I would be buying one this weekend if I hadnt just put $2500 worth of Andrews cams and tuner into my 09 FLHP.

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As others have said, take a look at the BMW boxers. My old R90S weighs about 450 pounds. When I was riding a lot I could put it back upright if something happened that it tipped over. I am not sure BMW still takes the weight issue as serious as they used to, but I'd bet they are lighter than similar displacement Japanese brands.

I am not far from your age and also thinking about a new or new-to-me road bike. The kids are in college now and I have some time to do that sort of thing. I think I have "given up riding" long enough.

I like a bike that I feel I can control, not a bike that overpowers and controls me. When they get too heavy, too uncomfortable, or even too powerful, I lose interest. (I don't need a 180+ MPH street bike.) I'll be having a look at the new and not-so-new Beemers, probably this winter some time.
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I had a Kawasaki 1500 Vulcan. It was nimble for it's size and a ridiculous value. Any of the Kawa cruisers 900cc and up are a great ride.

I have a buddy about your size. He bought a 650 Yamaha. Nice bike, but he looked like a circus bear riding a bicycle and it was under powered for his size going up steep hills, etc. Be careful you don't "under buy" size-wise and power-wise. Looks matter!!!!!
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The Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero is a wonderful touring and around town motorcycle. It's 1700 cc V twin is plenty poweful and it has all the electronics to entertain on those long rides. Locking hard side bags and fairing. Look them up on the interweb, they are undervalued in my opinion...... Been through Harley, Honda, BMW, Kawasaki, etc. during almost 35 years riding motorcycles. Currently riding a 2011 red Vaquero. It's a good one.
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If you are only using it to take 5 or less kids to school...this 90cc should work.

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Sit on bikes you are considering and start with any bike that feels really comfortable. Getting a bike that is too big, or too small, and that includes the weight of the bike, the height of the seat and the reach to the bars, is just looking for aches and pains later on. Unless you are a speed freak, even a smaller displacement bike can do the job, but generally larger engines, running at lower rpm, will be smoother and more comfortable for riding (especially at higher highway speed). If you plan on having a passenger much of the time, make sure you have a decent passenger setup, including more than a mini-seat and ideally a passenger backrest and something to grip on. Lots of bikes today have ABS, and this adds a nice safety factor, especially if you ever have to really grab the brakes to stop in an emergency. And you can add a windscreen and nylon or leather bags to almost any bike. Hard bags that lock are ideal, but if you are not making long trips often, textile or other non-locking bags work fine (not too many people mess with other people's bikes. I've left my bike overnight at motels many times with leather bags that cannot lock and have never had a problem.)

Right now I ride a Triumph Thunderbird. I'm 71 and not as strong as I used to be, but I find this bike easier to handle, even at low speeds, than some lighter and smaller bikes that I have owned. Used Triumphs may not be easy to find, but any of the cruisers are a good choice for you: Thunderbird, Storm, America, Speedmaster. Star (Yamaha) makes some nice cruisers, as does Suzuki. Personally I like these better than the comparable Hondas and Kawasakis. Any of the Japanese brands will cost less than similar HD's, and in my opinion, are a better value and choice.

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As others have said, take a look at the BMW boxers. My old R90S weighs about 450 pounds. When I was riding a lot I could put it back upright if something happened that it tipped over. I am not sure BMW still takes the weight issue as serious as they used to, but I'd bet they are lighter than similar displacement Japanese brands.

I am not far from your age and also thinking about a new or new-to-me road bike. The kids are in college now and I have some time to do that sort of thing. I think I have "given up riding" long enough.

I like a bike that I feel I can control, not a bike that overpowers and controls me. When they get too heavy, too uncomfortable, or even too powerful, I lose interest. (I don't need a 180+ MPH street bike.) I'll be having a look at the new and not-so-new Beemers, probably this winter some time.
There is some good advice in there. While I am no particular fan of the latest BMWs (good bikes but way too expensive for what you get), there are lots of middle-aged airhead and oilhead boxers out there. The airheads are especially friendly to the guy who does his own maintenance. It's not hard to find a bike for $2000-5000 that still has 100k miles left in it.
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My first '99 Suzuki 1200cc bandit air cooled was the one to have. Now the new one is 1250cc water cooled. I may look at one for the spring.
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Used twin cam ? Not familiar with that one. I really want to duplicate the riding position of my old 03 Road King for less money with less noise. Don't necessarily need or want a v twin...just don't want anything bigger than a Road King.
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So was thinking metric, shaft drive, smooth etcetera , but I'm really confused with all the choices. Before I go out and test ride I'm needing a place to start.
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If your looking for a cruiser there's a new kid on the block that's taking the market by storm. The new Indian motorcycles are gaining in popularity and there rising market share in sales. For a cruiser it's the Indian all the way.
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Or, you might consider something like this. More fun than should be legal!

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Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 or FJR 1300, Ditto on Suzuki V Strom either 650 or 1000, the "Bandit" 1250 standard, Honda CB 1100. I'd stay clear of any European make, high maintenance cost and recall issues (BMW).

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Used twin cam ? Not familiar with that one. I really want to duplicate the riding position of my old 03 Road King for less money with less noise. Don't necessarily need or want a v twin...just don't want anything bigger than a Road King.
Thanks for all the replies so far,
So was thinking metric, shaft drive, smooth etcetera , but I'm really confused with all the choices. Before I go out and test ride I'm needing a place to start.
The Twin Cam is the motor you had in your RK and Springer. Those engines are pretty much bulletproof.
Maybe a Dyna Low Rider( also a Twin Cam motor) would suit you, powerful and comfortable. Storage would require some sort of saddlebag setup though.
Metrics I have no clue, never was interested at all.
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This one got my attention on ebay. Sold for 5300.00 2008 with between four and five thousand miles.
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Let me preface this by stating that I have always owned Harley's and currently own an 2008 Ultra Classic.

I went to Americade in Lake George this past June and rode the new Indian Chieftain - WOW! The 111 cubic inch engine is not only more powerful and smoother than the HD's but their 6 speed tranny is SUPER SMOOTH as well. The Bike had many accouterments including electrically operated saddle bag locks, heated seat and grips, a gorgeous paint job that is now available in two tone, and has a beautiful leather hand stitched seat. Their new model, The Roadmaster is also equipped with GPS, a Bluetooth radio, and a Tour Pack. I could not believe how smooth and powerful this motorcycle was. I was also very very impressed at how well it handled. We just had an Indian Dealer open up near me and I might have to go and check one out. They are priced slightly less than the H-D equivalent. There is also a Factory Stage One option if you so desire which will add another 10HP and is Factory tuned.

The new Indian Chieftain is QUITE IMPRESSIVE!!!

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...So was thinking metric, shaft drive, smooth etcetera , but I'm really confused with all the choices. Before I go out and test ride I'm needing a place to start.

Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha (Star) and Suzuki all offer cruisers in a similar style to what HD sells, for less money. Some have belt like HD while others have shaft. The ones 750-1000cc will be a good deal lighter than your old RK. I wouldn't expect to be offered a test ride from any of the metric manufacturer dealers though.
As mentioned a nice used HD a few years old can be often found for 1/2 price of a new one but there's the weight.
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As easy as falling off a bike.........
I would read and reread this post. I always loved riding motorcycles, but I'm about to get old enough that I love not being in plaster of paris even more.
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As easy as falling off a bike.........
I would read and reread this post. I always loved riding motorcycles, but I'm about to get old enough that I love not being in plaster of paris even more.
I was thinking the same thing, find other ways to have fun. I'm thinking about hanging up my helmet soon, and I am younger than you are.
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I, too, recommend the Wee-Strom. I had a 2007 model, loaded it with a Givi windscreen, and Givi hard saddle bags, along the the Givi case saver/crash bar. I road that bike a lot of miles, and the only thing done to it besides regular maintenance was to replace one battery. I traded it in on a new 2013 Honda CB1100. This too, is another good choice. The only thing you might think about is that they both require chain maintenance. You lube the chain every 400 or 500 miles, and you have to occasionally have to adjust the chain, when slack gets to be too much. Otherwise, just your regular maintenance at the intervals advised in the owners manual, and your good to go. Besure and sit on the bike before you buy, as the V-Strom has a rather tall seat height, and you might not be able to "flatfoot" at red lights and stop signs. Both Suzuki and Honda make good quality products. I've owned every thing out there, except a Kawasaki, and can't give my experiences on one. Everything out there is good quality wise, even Harley in this day and time. I speak from a lot of experience as I'm 65 yoa, and have ridden for many, many years. One can choose a good motorcycle from many price ranges, but we have to let our wallets be our guide........
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As easy as falling off a bike.........
I would read and reread this post. I always loved riding motorcycles, but I'm about to get old enough that I love not being in plaster of paris even more.
I've ridden bikes all my life and have to agree that at my age, it would take way too long to come back from a crash. I went through one in '95 and don't need it now.
Besides, think that link is about a bicycle crash.
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I've been riding motorcycles for some decades. I've never been a HD guy myself. I would suggest that you ask yourself one simple question; am I going to ride it on the highway or not?

Personally, my lower back won't handle more than a few hours on a bike anymore. Well, it will, but I don't do it anymore. So I migrated downward to 750's and dual sport bikes like the Honda CRF250L. I've since moved on to other hobbies and sold the last of those.

The only 'bike' I have left is a Honda Scooter with a top speed of about 50mph which does great in city traffic beating any stock car off the line, it was cheap (new) compared to anything else you'll consider, and is a ton of fun.

That's my 2 cents on motorcycles. BTW; we could talk boats too if you want Been down that road too!
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I've ridden bikes all my life and have to agree that at my age, it would take way too long to come back from a crash. I went through one in '95 and don't need it now.
Besides, think that link is about a bicycle crash.
Right, but you don't think a v-twin engine would have improved the outcome do you?
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I would read and reread this post. I always loved riding motorcycles, but I'm about to get old enough that I love not being in plaster of paris even more.
Just visited my 67 year old friend in critical condition in the hospital. Had a very bad spill on his bike and may be paralyzed. Please give serious thought to your decision.
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"You don't quit riding because you get old, you get old because you quit riding"
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Like others have said, your bike selection depends on what kind of riding you want to do. For what it's worth, I'm currently on a 2009 R1200GS, a great shaft-driven dual sport bike with the power to carry a passenger and gear. I love it! It's got ABS capability for pavement, and ESA settings to adjust for different riding styles and terrain. Costs a bit, but well worth it for me, since I live in an area with lots of county gravel and Forest Service roads. I strap camping gear on my bike and go backcountry touring whenever I have the time.

It's a nimble ride for twisty paved roads, and easily cruises at 75 mph on the highway. It makes short work of getting to your destination, and then takes you on backcountry roads I'd never attempt with a heavy Bagger. The newest BMW R1200GS models are water cooled and have more horsepower than my 2009 model.

In the same realm of big Adventure Bikes, the bargain is the new Yamaha Super Tenere that was previously mentioned. It has the features I mentioned at reduced cost over the equivalent BMW or KTM models, and the network of Yamaha dealers is a lot more extensive than either of the Euro bikes. Super Tenere reviews by bike mags have been very favorable, and if I was looking for a new Dual Sport, I'd be checking it out pretty seriously.

I'm 63. I hope I've got another 10 years of riding before I call it quits. As far as I'm concerned, those that don't ride don't know what they're missing. Say what you will, telling a rider not to ride is like telling some folks on the forum not to shoot firearms for sport. Both involve an element of risk. Sorry if your friend, a relative, or a friend of a friend was hurt or died while riding. It happens. We all take risks. BTW: I retired four days ago, and I did some technical rock climbing this weekend. Started out with a 5.7 route, after not having climbed for 25 years. It was a lot more fun than sitting in a rocking chair worrying about breaking a hip.

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If you like cruisers like your springer or Electra Glide, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha Star create the same look, and each also make a smaller version of their big cruisers. Some have been mentioned. If this type of motorcycle suits you go to their websites and look at the choices. I am a little familiar with Yamaha V-Star, they make a nice 1300 and 900 cruisers. These however are not my cup of tea.

The Suzuki Bandit, VStrom, Yamaha FZ series, are considered 'naked sport' types, can be made comfortable for long distance solo or two-up riding, and are fun for the day trips or around town riding. You do need a bit of joint mobility as the seating position is a bit tighter than a cruiser.

The Sport-Tourer of the BMW, Yamaha FJR, Kawasaki Concours, etc market is made for long distance comfort AND some good amount of sporty fun if twisty / canyon / sporty riding (as you can see in the below photo of me and the Mrs last summer on the Tail of the Dragon) is what you are looking for. They are also excellent for day trips and running to the store for bread. Yes, I am slightly biased towards the Sport-Tourers.

There is a recent class of "adventurer-tourers" made for street and off-road riding, but in my opinion these are not well thought out. The bikes are fine, but if you put tires on made for dirt they are poor (maybe dangerous) performers on the street; if you put road tires on they are no good in the dirt. You can get 'compromise tires' but that makes them only fair in both dirt and street. Just my opinion, I am sure there are folks who have these and they are happy with them.

No one mentioned GSXR or R1 or Z1000 full sport bikes (sometimes referred to as "zip-splats" , I'm guessing you are not interested in them.

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This may not be the way you ride.

My point is, when you ask for suggestions, you need to identify what are your plans for your motorcycle? That determines which class of motorcycle you might want to look at. All bikers have their favorites and one of those might work for you or might not.

I know people who have 10 year old cruisers with 2-4000 miles on them. To them a 50 mile trip three times per summer is a lot of riding. A good friend from GA just traded his HD Electra Glide with well over 200,000 miles for a new one. My 7 year old FJR1300 has over 60,000 miles on it, and being in the snow belt here in PA we only get 6 months of riding. Another friend with a 2004 FJR and rides 2-up all the time has passed 120,000 miles. Before my FJR I had one of those 'naked sport' Yamaha FZ1 and put 13,000 miles on it in 2 years. That was a blast to ride, but too crowded for long distance two-up - thus the FJR purchase

I don't think any of the bikes the posters have mentioned will disappoint, and maybe any of them will suit your needs. My first recommendation, as also posted, is to go to the dealers and sit on the bikes.

And to those who want to start decrying the motorcycle as a murder-cycle, don't bother. Motorcycle are inanimate objects. Just like a gun. Just like an automobile.
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If you like cruisers like your springer or Electra Glide, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha Star create the same look, and each also make a smaller version of their big cruisers. Some have been mentioned. If this type of motorcycle suits you go to their websites and look at the choices. I am a little familiar with Yamaha V-Star, they make a nice 1300 and 900 cruisers. These however are not my cup of tea.



The Suzuki Bandit, VStrom, Yamaha FZ series, are considered 'naked sport' types, can be made comfortable for long distance solo or two-up riding, and are fun for the day trips or around town riding. You do need a bit of joint mobility as the seating position is a bit tighter than a cruiser.



The Sport-Tourer of the BMW, Yamaha FJR, Kawasaki Concours, etc market is made for long distance comfort AND some good amount of sporty fun if twisty / canyon / sporty riding (as you can see in the below photo of me and the Mrs last summer on the Tail of the Dragon) is what you are looking for. They are also excellent for day trips and running to the store for bread. Yes, I am slightly biased towards the Sport-Tourers.



There is a recent class of "adventurer-tourers" made for street and off-road riding, but in my opinion these are not well thought out. The bikes are fine, but if you put tires on made for dirt they are poor (maybe dangerous) performers on the street; if you put road tires on they are no good in the dirt. You can get 'compromise tires' but that makes them only fair in both dirt and street. Just my opinion, I am sure there are folks who have these and they are happy with them.



No one mentioned GSXR or R1 or Z1000 full sport bikes (sometimes referred to as "zip-splats" , I'm guessing you are not interested in them.



This is how we ride





This may not be the way you ride.



My point is, when you ask for suggestions, you need to identify what are your plans for your motorcycle? That determines which class of motorcycle you might want to look at. All bikers have their favorites and one of those might work for you or might not.



I know people who have 10 year old cruisers with 2-4000 miles on them. To them a 50 mile trip three times per summer is a lot of riding. A good friend from GA just traded his HD Electra Glide with well over 200,000 miles for a new one. My 7 year old FJR1300 has over 60,000 miles on it, and being in the snow belt here in PA we only get 6 months of riding. Another friend with a 2004 FJR and rides 2-up all the time has passed 120,000 miles. Before my FJR I had one of those 'naked sport' Yamaha FZ1 and put 13,000 miles on it in 2 years. That was a blast to ride, but too crowded for long distance two-up - thus the FJR purchase



I don't think any of the bikes the posters have mentioned will disappoint, and maybe any of them will suit your needs. My first recommendation, as also posted, is to go to the dealers and sit on the bikes.



And to those who want to start decrying the motorcycle as a murder-cycle, don't bother. Motorcycle are inanimate objects. Just like a gun. Just like an automobile.
I'm really trying to duplicate the seating position on my old Road King with less expense and vibration and noise . Was thinking shaft drive metric. I like short rides( I hr. Or so) but like a bigger bike. Looking for better handling and no bigger than the HD.
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