When the "scalper" puts the ammunition on an auction site and lets other people bid the price through the roof it's not fair to hold him accountable for that.
He's just selling an in demand product for what the market will bear
Sad experience today
- Thread starter spad124
- Start date
When the "scalper" puts the ammunition on an auction site and lets other people bid the price through the roof it's not fair to hold him accountable for that.
He's just selling an in demand product for what the market will bear
Covers my thinking. I don't rush into the store and buy everything they have. In fact, I can't remember the last time I purchased .22s, but I have more than I need right now.
I'd have been happy to give the folks a box or two of .22s if I had been standing there. Was the kid looking for .22s on his phone? Sounds like something my son might do.
Ok, my use of the word "hoarder" is in my post not the best word choice. Apologies. Change that to "gouger" or "scalper".
The dad didn't strike me as a regular shooter, probably has a 22 and a 12ga, maybe handed down from his dad, but rarely uses them. They walked away before I thought to offer them some off the 22 I have. Slow brain function on my part, plus I live about 15 miles away. However, I have given away 22LR before to people I know who weren't able to find any.
Personally, I used to just buy a box of ammo in any of the calibers I have when it went on sale. So, yes, I have some. But today in the area I live in 22LR is still hard to come by. All other ammo is back on the shelf and prices have dropped to just about pre-panic levels.
Good point about the all the AR/AK copy 22s that were sold and the ammo consumption they go through. I used to see quite a few of those being sold before Sandy Hook, although now they seem to sit on the LGS's racks. Feeding those in a regular basis would certainly increase the demand. I'll admit I, and my 22 year old son, are in the "let's be as accurate as possible" crowd and not the "let's launch as many as possible" crowd.
sipowicz
Member
I have a friend who has stockpiled about 50,000 rounds of .22 over the years. He has already given me a few bricks and I still have one left...if I shoot that, I'm sure he will give me more. So I don't consider him a hoarder...just someone who saw the writing on the wall years back since you never know in Cali when some idiot is going to pass a law telling you how much ammo you can buy.
Last edited:
Faulkner
Member
Gotta disagree with you . . . I may not like the fact that a guy blasts through a whole bulk pack of ammo for no good reason, but if he bought and paid for them he has the same right that I ought to have to drink a 20 oz soft drink in New York City if I was a mind to. I don't need or want the government telling me how many rounds I shoot or in what capacity magazines I shoot them from because it's a slippery slope for them to ban the next legal activity I do they don't happen to like.
I stopped in to the local GM the other day. No bulk packs, but an ample supply at $7.99 for 50. I didn't see any limit on purchasess. At that price, they were obviously not flying off the shelves, but a guy who wanted to pick up a couple hundred rounds could do it.
rojodiablo
Member
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2011
- Messages
- 1,759
- Reaction score
- 1,190
Locally??? The greater Los Angeles area is pretty barren. Gotta figure, with probably 6-10 MILLION shooters in the greater area here, any glitch in ammo supply makes for a shortage. It's strange, and I have had more than 1 friend say they would gladly swap 2 for 1 22 for 556 ammo, just to take their kids out for the day. When this is the case....... I cave in and give the kid a pack for their birthday present. I would keep enough 22 to have several target sessions with my sons and their friends. At this point, I am also eyeing the stores and seeing that the only 2 real shortages at the moment are 22lr and 9mm target ammo. Seems most other items have settled down supply-wise.
Triathloncoach
Member
You know, bullets aren't scarce, life saving medicine. And while I can make the unfortunate claim to have voted for Obama. (fooled me) I believe in the free market. Tell Dad to pay a little more, and if he can't afford that he should sell his gun and pay for groceries.
Socialism this is Luke.
Socialism this is Luke.
Triathloncoach
Member
Amen to a reality check
Every time this topic comes up I think the same thing.
This is how a free market economy works and I'd rather do with out than have some outside agency impose a limit on me in the name of "fairness".
If some people (not me) were able to see the trend coming and stock way up at a relatively low price and are now selling at the much higher price that people are clearly willing to pay don't fault them for that.
It's no different than getting in on the ground floor of Microsoft.
This is how a free market economy works and I'd rather do with out than have some outside agency impose a limit on me in the name of "fairness".
If some people (not me) were able to see the trend coming and stock way up at a relatively low price and are now selling at the much higher price that people are clearly willing to pay don't fault them for that.
It's no different than getting in on the ground floor of Microsoft.
ChattanoogaPhil
Member
- Joined
- Oct 18, 2009
- Messages
- 14,601
- Reaction score
- 20,622
Well... its been my observation in life that a perceived unrealistic contingency today can be reality smacking me upside the head tomorrow.
The floor joist in my homes have always sagged under the weight of lead. I've never regretted buying ammo. To the contrary, when I look at the price sticker of a box of ammo I'm going to shoot today that I bought years ago, I typically regret having not purchased more than I did.
Seems to me that the ones who are running around like chickens with their heads cut off looking for ammo and those scolding others for having "more than they need" might consider the next unrealistic contingeny a good idea to plan for.
Arik
Member
I love a good "Omg no 22lr" thread. 2nd only to "should I use +P, and right in front of "what gun for bears"
Triathloncoach
Member
You live in NY so you have no choice, but to me driving and waiting has a significant cost. I'll pay a flipper.
you forgot 9mm V .45 and AK V. AR
Arik
Member
It's still early in the morning. I'm not thinking straight
ChattanoogaPhil
Member
- Joined
- Oct 18, 2009
- Messages
- 14,601
- Reaction score
- 20,622
Right.
And there is one place around here that always has supply, Benton Shooters. It's $50-$80 a brick, but they got it. Some guys will complian that he's gouging, but when gramps wants to take the grand kids out to shoot there's a local solution. Otherwise, the alternative would be what the OP described.
SW_shooter
Member
A couple things.......
Around this area (southern DFW) .22lr is still difficult to find if you don't stand outside the store at 6:30 in the morning. Of course I can go to the next gun show and buy that same 22 at .12 to .15/round. I personally just refuse to pay that price. I don't order it online as I don't see it as that desperate of a situation.
Second, call yourself anything you want but if you have thousands of roounds of something you are hoarding.
Webster's Dictionary says:
1hoard noun \ˈhȯrd\
: a large amount of something valuable that is kept hidden
2hoard verb
: to collect and hide a large amount of (something valuable)
Synonyms
cache, stash, stockpile, store
Third,
Please stop telling me that because I can't tell the future and know when the people of this country are going to go nuts and buy everything in sight that I live under a rock or am just not prepared. I also have to worry about food, electricity, house payment, insurance, etc.. I don't have the financial ability to buy tons of everything I use or want. I wish I had your wealth and fortune telling abilities.
I'm a reactionary person these days, so I buy ammo and guns when I see something I can afford. Yes I have more ammo than I can shoot right now so I am hoarding. I try to hoard money too but that ain't working to well these days.
Around this area (southern DFW) .22lr is still difficult to find if you don't stand outside the store at 6:30 in the morning. Of course I can go to the next gun show and buy that same 22 at .12 to .15/round. I personally just refuse to pay that price. I don't order it online as I don't see it as that desperate of a situation.
Second, call yourself anything you want but if you have thousands of roounds of something you are hoarding.
Webster's Dictionary says:
1hoard noun \ˈhȯrd\
: a large amount of something valuable that is kept hidden
2hoard verb
: to collect and hide a large amount of (something valuable)
Synonyms
cache, stash, stockpile, store
Third,
Please stop telling me that because I can't tell the future and know when the people of this country are going to go nuts and buy everything in sight that I live under a rock or am just not prepared. I also have to worry about food, electricity, house payment, insurance, etc.. I don't have the financial ability to buy tons of everything I use or want. I wish I had your wealth and fortune telling abilities.
I'm a reactionary person these days, so I buy ammo and guns when I see something I can afford. Yes I have more ammo than I can shoot right now so I am hoarding. I try to hoard money too but that ain't working to well these days.
Alpo
Member
I have a problem with people saying, "You are a BLANK, because the dictionary defines it as this". I don't trust dictionaries, since they have decided that "disrespect" is a verb (it's not, it's a noun), and "dis" is a word. The only time "dis" is a word is when saying "dis and dat".
But if it makes you feel better to think of my stash as a "hoard", and me as a "hoarder", by all means do so. I don't care. What I do care about, however, is when people think that a hoarder is a bad thing.
This goes back to WW2, when everything was in short supply, and if you had "more than you need", you were an evil hoarder, and you really needed to share that gasoline, or sugar, or whatever, with your "less-fortunate neighbors".
Screw my less-fortunate neighbors. They had the chance to buy 22s at 75 cents a box, just like I did. They chose to spend their money on big-screen TVs and Iphones. That's fine. That was their choice.
My choice was to spend my money on ammo and components. Now you find that taking your big-screen to the range does not work out very well, but I can still go make noise if I want.
How is that my fault?
Oh the evil evil ants, hoarding all the grain, and refusing to give the poor starving grasshopper any. SHAME UPON 'EM.
Y'all make me tired.
But if it makes you feel better to think of my stash as a "hoard", and me as a "hoarder", by all means do so. I don't care. What I do care about, however, is when people think that a hoarder is a bad thing.
This goes back to WW2, when everything was in short supply, and if you had "more than you need", you were an evil hoarder, and you really needed to share that gasoline, or sugar, or whatever, with your "less-fortunate neighbors".
Screw my less-fortunate neighbors. They had the chance to buy 22s at 75 cents a box, just like I did. They chose to spend their money on big-screen TVs and Iphones. That's fine. That was their choice.
My choice was to spend my money on ammo and components. Now you find that taking your big-screen to the range does not work out very well, but I can still go make noise if I want.
How is that my fault?
Oh the evil evil ants, hoarding all the grain, and refusing to give the poor starving grasshopper any. SHAME UPON 'EM.
Y'all make me tired.
venomballistics
Member
Well FWIW, the TV and iPhone are out of warranty and broken by now.
ChattanoogaPhil
Member
- Joined
- Oct 18, 2009
- Messages
- 14,601
- Reaction score
- 20,622
/\ A lot of truth right there.
Last time I took the wife out to dinner and a movie it cost me $100. The movie sucked and I suffered heartburn. A $50 brick will give me hours of enjoyment. Relatively speaking, it's a bargain.
budster
Member
I am sick of the hoarders too. I've had it with them.
Similar threads
