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09-21-2014, 08:16 AM
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Know your enemy, study your enemy, communicate with your enemy. Then kill your enemy!!! Only thing that has worked over history...Talk is cheap and obviously non productive...
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09-21-2014, 08:42 AM
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I don't think an armed American populace will have much of an effect on a terrorist attack here. Not saying it would hurt, but I don't think those 6 Jihadis with AKs and frag grenades will be impressed or intimidated by my snubby.
I always thought that OBL missed the boat on 9/11. As horrifying as that attack was, it was still "peripheral" to middle-America. A coordinated attack on the twin towers and a middle school in Nowhere, Nebraska would have had a much more psychological effect on our country, for very little detriment to their resources.
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09-21-2014, 09:23 AM
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You could be right..However the Twin Towers had a effect on me...To think that a group of religious fanatics could wreck such a long reaching devastation and loss of life absolutely floored me...I had seen a lot, but never an attack on our very way of life....This was an act of war...The fact that it hasn't been acted on as a act of war amazed me...No matter all the rhetoric it was a declaration of war. Certainly a different kind of war, but war it was..IMHO
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09-21-2014, 10:00 AM
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Certainly not minimizing the severity of 9/11.
Moreso looking at it from the enemy's strategic perspective. I think the 9/11 attacks affected New Yorkers and farmers differently is what I'm saying.
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09-21-2014, 08:35 PM
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Ultimately, its us or them, and the sandals won't fight without the boots. I sense steep "mission creep" in our future.
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09-21-2014, 09:28 PM
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Just think of the tens of thousands of soft targets in the U.S., that small teams armed with small arms and granades, could really do a JOB on. Schools, malls, sporting events, theaters etc are soft and unguarded and/or gun free zones. Add small amounts of C4 or other plastic explosives and you have power stations and the electric grid, trains, buses, waste water plants, fresh water systems, oh and nultiple forest fires are easy to start and don't take much in equipment. I would call them a big threat. To top it off our southern border is wide open. In some states the drug cartels already control no-go zones on the N side of the border.
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09-21-2014, 10:08 PM
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Seems there are 3 main groups alqeda, isis, and newcomer khorasan. all competing to see who will attract the most followers and money by commiting the biggest atrocities. A big hit on the US would get the most attention, I hate to say it but I think sooner or later it is coming. Everyone needs to be watchful and very careful.
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09-22-2014, 03:19 PM
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Well, this should come as no surprise and its nothing much new, but ISIS has now released a recording to their followers to kill us and any coalition member states citizens at home, in their bedrooms by any means.
Wow! Surprise, surprise. It sounds like they are upset with us.
I guess I'll be carrying one of my high cap guns for a while.
This gets old!
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09-22-2014, 03:33 PM
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These low life scum need to be eradicated by all means needed for total extermination but I'm afraid our Washington Elected Elite doesn't have the spine to do what needs to be done!
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They might if the next one who jogs across the front yard and into the front door is one of them.
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We need to make an example out of them by any means necessary. Unfortunately we now fight wars by rules, to win votes and show the bleeding hearts how humane and civilized we are.
They hide behind women and children, they are cowards. We gave them a taste of what we are capable of doing during the first Iraqi war and their fathers and grandfathers surrendered in droves. Unfortunately before we had finished it all we let the politicians take control.
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09-22-2014, 07:58 PM
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True, very true! We need to go in and take them out and anyone who gets in the way. Those people in those countries need to belly up and start taking responsibility for themselves,also they need to start picking up more of the tab.
They have the oil and they have the money. No more baloney from them!
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09-22-2014, 09:47 PM
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This is why.....
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The folk that pay for the Fear Channels want you to be in fear to advance their agenda.
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This is a good reason to fight with our heads and not get drawn into war the way THEY want it. We don't need to be too predictable.
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The bombing is under way gentleman. The US and five Arab countries are bombing as I write this.
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09-22-2014, 09:59 PM
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Bombing won't win this, just as it has never won a war. Unless, of course we are willing to use nuclear weapons. Which I don't think will happen.
No matter what we do, we are going to have to be willing to accept the reality that some civilians will be killed.
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The bombing is under way gentleman. The US and five Arab countries are bombing as I write this.
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09-22-2014, 10:11 PM
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Remember the Highway of Death, they need to relive the experience!
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09-23-2014, 12:11 AM
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I think it's a bigger threat of mind numbing hype and a disservice to the population.
Their method is no different than that of any other radical group.
Recruitment within the target country is nothing new.
After this one is delt with, another will form right out of the same play book.
It becomes a setup for more intrusion upon our personal freedoms as the panicking zombies of our population cry out for protection against the hyped up threat.
Meanwhile, murders attributed to terrorist activity still represents a tiny fraction of the body count, already in progress, due to the pre existing problem of gang related crime.
Where's the outrage for that?
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The bombing is under way gentleman. The US and five Arab countries are bombing as I write this.
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I thought I heard that even the French were kicking the tires and lighting the fires in this one.
That might frighten me more than isis
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I watched the 60 minutes report on Isis last night. it was pretty straightforward. I am just stating what they said-We should not have pulled out and Isis makes 6 million a day and with that kind of money they are and can recruit anywhere.
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If you join them and pose a threat to the greatest nation on earth then they all need to be exterminated. No matter where you come from.
But I agree. If people join such groups they should lose everything, for ever. If they like it so much then please, join them 100%. Learn their language, live their lifestyle and enjoy your goat.
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But then what would Hollywierd do without the Jane Fonda wannabe's?
Seriously I don't know what it will take to smoke them, but smoke them we must. I do like the idea of letting some other country send their kids to carry the weight for a change. I paid my dues and volunteered for everything I could, my sons paid and one was lost. I really don't want to have my grand daughter feel the heat of the middle east, ever.
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But then what would Hollywierd do without the Jane Fonda wannabe's?
Seriously I don't know what it will take to smoke them, but smoke them we must. I do like the idea of letting some other country send their kids to carry the weight for a change. I paid my dues and volunteered for everything I could, my sons paid and one was lost. I really don't want to have my grand daughter feel the heat of the middle east, ever.
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I don't know. If I would be younger and in better shape I would sign up again. Fighting evil. That's just what good guys do.
The POTUS has many advisors and he should be in a very great position to make a decision regarding this threat. Well, he did. Lets see what it does.
But once you cut off the head of this terror snake, another head will grow back. Or a totally new snake will evolve. We've been there, over 70 years ago, in Germany. Hitler evolved out of chaos and the fact that people didn't know where to go and what to do. He had the ultimate power over everything.
Fighting the middle eastern terrorists will - unfortunately - be a never ending story.
Most hate us b/c they are jealous. Then you have the oil war and religion, believes and butthurt people that just want revenge b/c they are too stupid to have a normal life.
I'd like to post my political view on that issue, but I'm sure that will not go by w/o getting suspended (again) or even banned for life.
And ya'll know I can't live w/o you guys and gals...
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I'm guessing that a permanent glass tribute to the ME won't get the go ahead. But how about a more conventional cure for these radical zealots taking over Iraq as a launching point for a worldwide Islamic caliphate? I'm thinking a secular murderous dictator who kills trouble makers and their entire families, tosses malcontents off roofs for entertainment and a village gassing now and then. And as a bonus, there would be a permanent enemy of Iran to wage endless war with. Oh wait...
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The Pakistani government orchestrated a ground level attack by deniable "terrorists" in Mumbai a few years ago. In Indian circles, this is still mentioned by some as a reason behind arming themselves.
For those that don't recall, Forstchen, a friend of Newt Gingrich, was last making money over hyping the threat of EMPs. That was despite the United States having a fully functional defense in place against high altitude EMPs. So why was the threat hyped? Because you want your enemies, if they attack, to do so in a relatively ineffective manner.
The militarized police that people often complain about will suddenly be welcomed with open arms if Mumbai happens here. But in some places, Detroit or Chicago...it might not even be noticed amidst the normal killings.
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