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Need advise from the Expert Turkey cooks here please.
Ive never cooked Turkey before--and bought a turkey breast yesterday--no cooking instructions. This breast weighs about 3 & 1/2 pounds--is boneless.
Ive cooked raw chicken breasts many times so figure that cooking the Turkey--will be similar. Well,I did a little looking and I got cooking temps between 350 to 450 from between 2-3 hours.
Im confused and dont know which to try??? Also, do you have to add a bit of water to the pan when cooking such a large piece of meat? Im using some fantastic dry rub on it.
Anyway,will you all please straighten it out for me and please let me know what oven temp to cook this at and how long? and wether I need to add water to the pan?
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Best regards and HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
BTW--im doing this for a Vietnam vet/friend of mine who is coming over who also has no family to go to.
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Call ButterBall, they have a hotline for all sorts of turkey questions
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If you cook that turkey breast that long, it will be like the one in National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation!
That would be for like a 12-15 pound bird, call the Butterball hotline.
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A turkey dinner is actually one of the easiest large meals to make. It just takes some time, most of which can be spent in the kitchen with a glass of wine in hand while we act like we know what we are doing.
For a whole roasted turkey I have come to rely on the "oven bags". These make the job almost too easy to do. Follow the written instructions (noting the differences in cooking times for stuffed or unstuffed birds). Cooking any part of a turkey without the stuffing seems to me a waste of time, but I know some others do it.
For a turkey breast I would recommend a roasting pan with cover, about 1 hour at 325-350F per pound with cover in place, then remove the cover and allow 30-45 minutes or so in the oven to brown the surface. I would start the breast by rubbing with butter (or margarine for you health Nazi types), then a sprinkling of Lowry's seasoned salt, and a bit of sage. An onion, cut into chunks or quarters in the pan with the breast will add some interesting flavors, as will chopped celery.
The pan drippings in the roasting pan will make the best turkey gravy you're likely to get. Low to medium heat in a skillet or sauce pan, add some flour dissolved in warm water (tablespoon of flour to a pint of water), keep working with the wisk as it thickens, salt and pepper to taste. The gravy is good for mashed potatoes, dressing or stuffing, or for hot turkey sandwiches as leftovers (the leftovers are some of the year's best eating of the season).
I would serve that roasted turkey breast sliced thin alongside mashed potatoes, candied yams, green bean casserole, and (if you have to do it this way) "Stove-top Stuffing Mix" done in a casserole dish in the oven alongside the breast. Some nice bread or rolls, maybe a little cranberry sauce on the side and a few black olives, followed by the pie of your choice, should satisfy any appetite.
If you are a wine drinker I would recommend a nice crisp California chardonnay or Chablis, maybe a rose or white merlot. Something a bit crisp, not too sweet.
Then lay down on the couch or stretch out in your La-Z-Boy and enjoy the game with a 6-pack of your favorites.
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Kid...I usually butterfly boneless turkey breast, roll it with stuffing and tie it up with the skin around it. Yes, you can put water on bottom, but I hold the breast up on a rack. As the meat cooks you can use the water to bast the breast. Makes for a good lookin', good tastin' bird.
Best way to cook turkey or any meat is to use an instant meat thermometer. I usually start it at 425 for about 15 minutes to brown then reduce to 325 or so.
Plenty of videos on youtube. Google can get you to the promised land here.
Hope that helps a bit. Good luck and happy Thanksgiving my friend.
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Ray, you make a fella hungry. Luckily we aren't far away from a turkey fix now.
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Hi Larry,I do and sure will. Sometime on Wed--ill be making a run to HEBS for anything else I might need. Cant find my expensive wisk--so need another too.
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Google "Romancing the Bird" by Alton Brown and the Food Network. Best...turkey...ever.
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Danke-and I will before I leave for home today. I tried to look up but couldnt spell the guys naemI wanted. Its soemthing like: lagasi???? used to have ashowI watched on the Food Network--about 5 or more years ago.
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Danke-and I will before I leave for home today. I tried to look up but couldnt spell the guys naemI wanted. Its soemthing like: lagasi???? used to have ashowI watched on the Food Network--about 5 or more years ago.
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Emeril Lagassi. The spelling may not be correct.
The episode I told you to google calls for brining the bird and that can only be done with a fresh turkey, not one that has been processed with water, salt, etc.
Also, ignore the pop-up timer.
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A turkey dinner is actually one of the easiest large meals to make. It just takes some time, most of which can be spent in the kitchen with a glass of wine in hand while we act like we know what we are doing.
For a whole roasted turkey I have come to rely on the "oven bags". These make the job almost too easy to do. Follow the written instructions (noting the differences in cooking times for stuffed or unstuffed birds). Cooking any part of a turkey without the stuffing seems to me a waste of time, but I know some others do it.
For a turkey breast I would recommend a roasting pan with cover, about 1 hour at 325-350F per pound with cover in place, then remove the cover and allow 30-45 minutes or so in the oven to brown the surface. I would start the breast by rubbing with butter (or margarine for you health Nazi types), then a sprinkling of Lowry's seasoned salt, and a bit of sage. An onion, cut into chunks or quarters in the pan with the breast will add some interesting flavors, as will chopped celery.
The pan drippings in the roasting pan will make the best turkey gravy you're likely to get. Low to medium heat in a skillet or sauce pan, add some flour dissolved in warm water (tablespoon of flour to a pint of water), keep working with the wisk as it thickens, salt and pepper to taste. The gravy is good for mashed potatoes, dressing or stuffing, or for hot turkey sandwiches as leftovers (the leftovers are some of the year's best eating of the season).
I would serve that roasted turkey breast sliced thin alongside mashed potatoes, candied yams, green bean casserole, and (if you have to do it this way) "Stove-top Stuffing Mix" done in a casserole dish in the oven alongside the breast. Some nice bread or rolls, maybe a little cranberry sauce on the side and a few black olives, followed by the pie of your choice, should satisfy any appetite.
If you are a wine drinker I would recommend a nice crisp California chardonnay or Chablis, maybe a rose or white merlot. Something a bit crisp, not too sweet.
Then lay down on the couch or stretch out in your La-Z-Boy and enjoy the game with a 6-pack of your favorites.
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Muchos gracias. I do have some bagged Pepperidge Farm stuffing handy, will be making mashed potatoes from some russets I have, and have some corn on the cob, and two choices for pie (Cherry lattace--and apple-lattace) and ill be making cornbread as well as wheat roles. Cornbread from scratch--rolls froma Pilsbury or Grandes--can.;-))
I almost forgot, does Courvosier Cognac sound good? I still hae a little left that I got in germany 14 years ago.
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These guys know how to cook the Turk!
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Kid...I usually butterfly boneless turkey breast, roll it with stuffing and tie it up with the skin around it. Yes, you can put water on bottom, but I hold the breast up on a rack. As the meat cooks you can use the water to bast the breast. Makes for a good lookin', good tastin' bird.
Best way to cook turkey or any meat is to use an instant meat thermometer. I usually start it at 425 for about 15 minutes to brown then reduce to 325 or so.
Plenty of videos on youtube. Google can get you to the promised land here.
Hope that helps a bit. Good luck and happy Thanksgiving my friend.
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Thank you much and does help. Ill try a few vids when I get back here early tomorrow--before doing final shopping at HEBs for anything I still need. I dont have internet at home because of ongoing nearby construction--so allplanning will have to be done be eary after noon Wed.
HAppy Thanksgiving to you as well, and hope it all is perfecton all accounts.
Im hoping to have Fred--the nam vet--over by about 4. He has to go to "joints" to get anything for the holidays. I know he'll enjoy this. I tried getting him out with a few friends of mine about 2 years ago--but he doesnt like being with too many unfamiliars...
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Emeril Lagassi. The spelling may not be correct.
The episode I told you to google calls for brining the bird and that can only be done with a fresh turkey, not one that has been processed with water, salt, etc.
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Muchos gracias amigo,and thanks for the corect spelling. Mine was cut fresh yesterday so shoud be good.
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Get a thermometer to inset into the turkey it will eliminate the guess work. Then get a big pot fill with peanut oil or some other high temperature oil outside bring temperature up to 375° F take thawed and completely dry turkey and insert it into the oil slowly. The turkey is done when the dark meat is at an internal temperature of 175° F to 180° F and all white meat is at an internal temperature of 165° F to 170° F. Fried turkey is very tasty. Use brine solution the day before.
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My wife like the "New style" cooking bag with a tie/tie.
A few veggies, a little flower, the bird and 350 degrees per
the stated amount of time per pound.
Walk away and come back when the timer goes off.........
The bag locks in the moisture and holds any juices for gravy.
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I'm tossing one in the smoker tomorrow. 30 mins per pounds gets it just right. Juicy and tender.
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Anyone ever try a fryer yet? I saw one neighbor attempt that years ago--and caught his stairwell on fire in the process.
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Ive never done just a breast before but a must have is a decent meat thermometer. Good luck hope everyone has a great a Thanksgiving lets remeber what the day is for.
I am trying the butterball indoor turkey fryer tomorrow. 15lb bird done in a little over an hour we will have too see. Bought two new meat thermometers cant be too causious. Bird plus stuffing, green bean casserole, dare i say BROCOLI casserole, cranberries from a can (my favorite) rolls and pie.
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We have the big outdoor fryer for big birds and smaller Buttterball Digital Electric turkey fryer we use indoors. Both have their uses the electric one is easier to use. It is easier to keep the temperature under control without watching all the time. Just make sure whichever one you use you have a dry bird and lower it in slowly. The outdoor ones I've seen the after math of getting the oil too hot and lowering the bird in to fast or a wet bird with the burner burning. You never want to hit the flash point of oil with a source of ignition around. Makes for a quick fire and you better have a fire extinguisher handy and hope you can get it out.
Turkey comes out very moist for only 3-4 minuets per pound. Lots say after you eat a fried bird you never go back. I like it everyway so it doesn't matter if cooked in the oven, smoked, or fried. Here's a little info on frying a turkey. This is also the indoor fryer we have and the gas one is the slandered one you find in most stores. You wouldn't have any problem frying a breast in one of these. Plus frying anything like chicken, pickles, fries, or whatever in large amounts with little mess and you can steam in it also.
How To Deep Fry a Turkey | Butterball®
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The main thing I recommend is getting a good thermometer. For safety, the meat should be cooked to 165°. In my opinion, that is too high, but that is the recommendation. My main point is that if you're going to cook a turkey breast to 165° you want to know when you hit it because going over will make the meat even dryer than it already tends to be. The next thing is to let meat rest. A 15 to 20 min rest will do wonders for the moisture. If you cut meat right out of the oven or grill, you will have a cutting board full of juices and dry meat.
I can't recommend it, but personally, I cook poultry to about 155° (usually go a little higher) and let it rest for 20 minutes. It will raise in heat as it rests (at first) and get close enough to 160° for me to call it good.
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Put a ham in the oven with a 2 liter of Dr Pepper, half a bag of brown sugar, half a honey bear of honey and a can of chunked pinapple in syrup. 7 hours @ 350 degrees......best ham you'll put in your mouth.
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We have the big outdoor fryer for big birds and smaller Buttterball Digital Electric turkey fryer we use indoors. Both have their uses the electric one is easier to use. It is easier to keep the temperature under control without watching all the time. Just make sure whichever one you use you have a dry bird and lower it in slowly. The outdoor ones I've seen the after math of getting the oil too hot and lowering the bird in to fast or a wet bird with the burner burning. You never want to hit the flash point of oil with a source of ignition around. Makes for a quick fire and you better have a fire extinguisher handy and hope you can get it out.
Turkey comes out very moist for only 3-4 minuets per pound. Lots say after you eat a fried bird you never go back. I like it everyway so it doesn't matter if cooked in the oven, smoked, or fried. Here's a little info on frying a turkey. This is also the indoor fryer we have and the gas one is the slandered one you find in most stores. You wouldn't have any problem frying a breast in one of these. Plus frying anything like chicken, pickles, fries, or whatever in large amounts with little mess and you can steam in it also.
How To Deep Fry a Turkey | Butterball®
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You make it sound super easy. These people I was watching fry their bird--had bubbling oil--dropped in a frozen bird--and fire was everywhere.I knew--they were making a large mistake but hadnt had time to mention it. I know thats like pouring water on hot grease......
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Put a ham in the oven with a 2 liter of Dr Pepper, half a bag of brown sugar, half a honey bear of honey and a can of chunked pinapple in syrup. 7 hours @ 350 degrees......best ham you'll put in your mouth.
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My sister does that for Christmas dinner--and your right--best Ham I ever had. I didnt know it took so long to cook though.
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Oh and, I did get it covered with all the advise and hlp. Last think I was toldI need--is a roasting bag-so am about to head out for one.
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