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I wonder what the Germans thought--about the movie FURY?
Not to take away from Rons thread but--got me finally thinking to ask this. I wonder if anyone has heard what the Germans think of Fury? I havent seen anything negative from them on it--just one Dutch citizen who hates the fact that Americans ARE superheroes. He thinks that Carlos Hathcocks tally is not accurate--but thats a diff story which led up to a major confrontation with me and that sites Admin--and got me banned a few weeks.
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The makers of Fury didn't use a publicity stunt to raise interest in their show but now I am am betting they wish they had.
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Hasn't been released there yet. Planned for January 2015. The German title will be "Herz aus Stahl" (Heart of Steel). Since they dub everything, they frequently don't use a literal translation of the title, which would sound dumb in German in this case.
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Interesting a Dutcher takes that position.
Lots of times kill numbers are reduced afterwards.
That in no way reduces the valor of the individual who
faced the enemy in battle.
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So many movies have been made about the Holocaust. The trials at Nuremberg were broadcast around the world. The Germans are anesthetized by the sheer amount of information released to the world. From what I have seen the Japanese have gotten off easy. Even the impending movie probably won't make a huge difference in the long run.
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I have a few German and Dutch friends. Most of them don't look at any different then some of us. Different times, different places, before we were born and in some cases before our parents were born.
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I bet they hope it tanks.
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I haven't seen it....
......but you have my interest.
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Jolie and Pitt conspiring against the AXIS?
Maybe not so left wing after All!
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Shrug. Tora, Tora, Tora was quite popular in Japan. The Japanese cut had fewer images of Japanese planes going down.
Then of course there were allegedly two versions of King Kong vs. Godzilla. In the American version King Kong won, in Japan Godzilla won.
Maybe in the German version they win. End up the dominant economy in Europe. Use the Americans to keep the Russians out. Force Europe into an advantageous monetary union. Oh...wait....huh.
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They will probably wonder why with a case or two of Panzerfaust in their possession, as was shown in the movie, the Germans troops kept attacking the tank with small arms.
Generation War is an interesting German made movie about the War.
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They will probably wonder why with a case or two of Panzerfaust in their possession, as was shown in the movie, the Germans troops kept attacking the tank with small arms.
Generation War is an interesting German made movie about the War.
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That lack of detail drove me nuts. When the German soldiers were shown speed marching into that area it seemed to me that at least 25% of them were holding Panzerfausts on their shoulders. They did not have to get them from any boxes.
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Hasn't been released there yet. Planned for January 2015. The German title will be "Herz aus Stahl" (Heart of Steel). Since they dub everything, they frequently don't use a literal translation of the title, which would sound dumb in German in this case.
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Aint that the truth on translation. Their name for Hogans Heroes was: Our Caged Heroes, and their name for Gunsmoke was: Smoking Colts.
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Interesting a Dutcher takes that position.
Lots of times kill numbers are reduced afterwards.
That in no way reduces the valor of the individual who
faced the enemy in battle.
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In this guys case--hes just jealous of Americans and cant stand the fact that we helped save the world.
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I have a few German and Dutch friends. Most of them don't look at any different then some of us. Different times, different places, before we were born and in some cases before our parents were born.
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All of my German friends--including WWII German vets--look at it asthe fiction it is and hae no problems with a fairytale story.The Dutch guy just hates anything American cept soda pops and chocolates.
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They will probably wonder why with a case or two of Panzerfaust in their possession, as was shown in the movie, the Germans troops kept attacking the tank with small arms.
Generation War is an interesting German made movie about the War.
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I haventt seen that one but--I highly suggest these German titles: Stalingrad Dogs Do You Want To Live Forever, Shtraff Bataillon 999 and Die Brucke.
Each have interesting takes on the war. The German ""Remake"" of Dogs--came out in the 1990s--called Stalingrad. Its pretty close to Dogs.
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That lack of detail drove me nuts. When the German soldiers were shown speed marching into that area it seemed to me that at least 25% of them were holding Panzerfausts on their shoulders. They did not have to get them from any boxes.
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I noticed that too. Quite a few of them had Panzerfausts in their mitts. One extara detail I liked--was that Pitt used a captured STG-44. You dont see them hardly at all in movies. The first timeI saw one in a movie--was in: Battle of the Bulge. Some of (Charles Bronsons men) Major Wolenski--captured it and Dana Andrews studied it. Then in: Decision before Dawn, several Felgendarmerie carried them when hunting""Happy"" (Oskar Werner) during his E&E scenes. Other than these movies,I cant recall ever seeeing one used in an American film.
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Father in law was at D day landings and as things progressed the were bringing German prisoners on board the ship to be taken to camps. Lots of anti aircraft fire going on as the German planes would strafe and bomb our ships. It was hard to get the prisoners on board as they thought all the gunfire was to kill them. Guess after they did it to so many others they didn't like the idea it might be done to them.
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Maybe in the German version they win. End up the dominant economy in Europe. Use the Americans to keep the Russians out. Force Europe into an advantageous monetary union. Oh...wait....huh.
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Among other sources for the movie, I think definitely such books as Cooper's Death Traps and Bando's Breakout at Normandy were used. I'm also sure Zaloga's books were also delved into.
The single tank in Fury holding a road with one young survivor is certainly inspired by the actions of a single tank, as I recall, chronicled by Cooper.
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I kinda doubt they care.
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Among other sources for the movie, I think definitely such books as Cooper's Death Traps and Bando's Breakout at Normandy were used. I'm also sure Zaloga's books were also delved into.
The single tank in Fury holding a road with one young survivor is certainly inspired by the actions of a single tank, as I recall, chronicled by Cooper.
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As for sources--it also sounds a bit like something taken from S.SGT. Lafayette G. Pools memoires. The Sarge had a similar situation--only in mid-to late 44. His tank was immobile and had to be dragged into place. They fought against and helped stop I think it was either a Battalion of German infantry--or either 2 reinforced rifle companies? I forget which? In the plagerized version of his story--the movie: The Tanks Are Coming--shows that scene--and many others that were "cleansed" enough for the studio to use them to make this movie.
I would love to see Clint Eastwood, make a movie featuring S,.SGT Pool and his crew.
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I kinda doubt they care.
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I woudnt say that they could care less. Look at the big stinks they made over Saving Private Ryan, U 571 and he Tom Cruise movie about von Stauffenbergs attempt to kill Hitler (Valkerie). The Germans went out and made their versions of SPR as well as for Valkerie.
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Unlike the Japanese, the Germans will continue to apologize forever.
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Unlike the Japanese, the Germans will continue to apologize forever.
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A few I still know--have had enough of that stuff and are tired of it.
One BIG BIG chagrin the vets and those currenty serving have--is that a few German legislators had been pushing to get the Iron Cross reinstated as a combat/bravery decoration. Sadly--the idiots under merkel--nixed that idea.
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Does anyone remember Sam Pekinpah's "Cross Of Iron"? From 1977. I'll bet the German's liked that movie.
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Does anyone remember Sam Pekinpah's "Cross Of Iron"? From 1977. I'll bet the German's liked that movie.
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I liked "Cross of Iron" but any movie with Nazis fighting Communist is like watching Alien vs Predator. Interesting but hard to pick a side.
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