You wouldn't. I'm just saying that being an American and going to Europe doesn't make you a target as you suggested/though/implied/possible/figured/concerned about.

What? Americans anywhere in the world ARE attractive targets - to some people. They have been for at least the last four decades. I wouldn't worry about that overly much in Denmark, but I certainly wouldn't ignore the possibility either.

Americans will always be a target for radical extremists, no matter where we go. Even Germany!

2011 Frankfurt Airport shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Jorge

I agree, but you are probably are more likely to be targeted for a mugging or a car jacking here in Atlanta than you are to be targeted in Denmark for being an American.

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USAF AMMO

Do what you and your wife think is best for your family. Best of luck and see all there is to see and do while you guys are there. Stay safe.

I have lived in Japan for 30 years. I think that there is nothing like living abroad to bring it home to one what it is like to be an American. This is because when you live overseas, in an alien culture, you feel different. You are different. You are treated differently. At times this is good, and at times it is bad, to be treated differently.

Japan is a culture with greater differences from ours than Europe, where I lived (Germany) for five years as a child, but still, even in a foreign Western culture, an American will feel different, and be a subject of some curiosity.

Living abroad will broaden your mind. I would argue that it makes you more of an American, and consciously so, at least in your own mind, than simply spending your entire life in the US.

I spent my professional career helping to facilitate the export of US products to Japan, which in turn created jobs in the US. So I think my living abroad was of benefit to the US.

To each his own, but I think living abroad is a positive experience. And I think more Americans with international experience is a good thing for our country.

There is a big World outside of the Good Old USA. Go and enjoy it and stop listening to propaganda. Americans are no more of a target than people from other countries including China and Japan. Denmark and Western Europe are a walk in the park. Ok guns are restricted but just about every other country in the World thinks US gun laws are madness. It's a cultural thing, when in Rome.................

Well said. Great advice.

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USAF AMMO

Best of luck on your move.

Denmark DOES allow dual citizenship now. The law was changed this year.
Him and his family can move to the ONLY other country that celebrates the 4th of july like we do.
The log cabin was made from American timber.

Thank you,
Henry

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Good luck with your move and: DONT eat the Cheese.

I can easily attest to that. I was in Heidelberg when the USS Cole was targeted by that boat. The next day I was in Frankfurt am Main waiting for my flight out of Germany. While at Frankfurt airport--I was being stalked by a tall arab. To make a long story short--said arab almost got himself shot by a tall Gebirgejager--whom im still in touch with. The Jager asked me what I would have done if the arab tried something? I grinned and simply opened a large leather bag I was carrying that had about thirty pounds of German bier steins in it. I said that arab would have lost his teeth had he tried anything and the Jager grinned.

Heh heh,its a line I borrowed from the movie: Airplane. The character that Lloyd Bridges was playing--used that in one of his funny moments in the movie. Imnot abig cheese fan either but do love Cheddar and Mozzerella and such.

There is something oddly surreal about an American being happy that he might be allowed to not have to store his guns in a safe at a club...

I greatly prefer my daughter to grow up in Wyoming. She will be walking soon, thus ready for her first rifle.

This is a real, "if i could only have 5 revolvers thread." good luck to you and your family.

The highly secured storage area at the gun club with a hundred different safes is climate controlled all year round. My house probably won't have AC. So it might be a better place to store them at the gun club, but I will probably want to keep them at my house eventually. I will just pull them out of the safe more often to give them a good wipe down with oil. Also I think I could bring six, but I am happy with the five. Besides, I can always buy one while I am there. They also don't import stamp them or proof mark them, that's a good thing.

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USAF AMMO

Go for it, Europe is awesome. The traveling you are going to be able to do will be incredible.
But I don't think that Model 15 wants to go there, so I will take that off your hands.
Good Luck

Gunar, whatever happened to your adventure of converting a Model 29-2 to .44 Special? Did that not pan out, or did you find out it wouldn't be kosher in Denmark after all, or what? Update - .41 mag to .44 spl conversion

I still have the model 29-2 and the .41 mag cylinder. I have the rechambering tool and a reamer to get the rechambering tool started. There is a question by my contact at the gun club about its 6.5" barrel. Not that it would still be stamped .44 magnum. But that it's too long. I have seen some information about recent changes in the gun laws there, and thought they allowed a 6.5" barrel now. Either way, I have everything to make the conversion. I will just keep everything and keep working on trying to get it over there once I get there.

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USAF AMMO

I can understand wanting the best place to raise your daughter. But there are still many places in the USA that are excellent places to raise kids. We affectionately refer to our very small town as "Mayberry" ( you probably have to be over 50 to know what that means). It was a great place to raise our boys. They received an excellent education in a small school ( 275 students K - 12 all in the same bldg.) and were well prepared for college. Both have an MBA from a major university. Fourth of July here is a week long celebration and the pews are full on Sunday.

Once they are exported, can you bring them back again?

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ABSOLUTELY!!!!

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USAF AMMO

Happy Trails...may you live as long as you want and never want as long as you live.

And if you see Connie Nielson or Viggor Mortensen, tell em I said Hello!

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NULLI SECUNDUS

I recall Garrison Keillor lived in Denmark for a while, he noted it was not a nation of immigrants and if you didn't speak the language at the native cadence...Often the best benefit of living overseas is you find out what you really like about the USA.

A "temporary export license" issued by the U.S. State Dept means you must bring them back with you when or if you come back. You are obligated to.
A "permanent export license" means you're allowed to sell/gift them away if you choose to do so. The "one time exception" export license is a simplified process for citizens moving abroad or to Canada.

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USAF AMMO

This has been a fascinating thread to read tonight. I wish you the best. Since this is all a result of who you fell in love with, would it be too personal to tell us where and how you met your wife? Given your username, were you serving overseas or had she come here for college?

Not too personal at all. I was stationed in Denmark on a TDY back in the mid 90s, however my wife is 13 years my junior. I never made it to Copenhagen while I was there, and she would have been just a child. But I met my wife six years ago when she was here on vacation. She went back to Denmark and we kept in close contact. She came back a second time and thats when we decided we wanted to spend the rest of our lives together and got married. I did all the US Immigration paperwork for her to be legal Permanent Resident here and together we did all the paperwork for me to be a legal Resident in Denmark.

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USAF AMMO

Thank you for sharing that. That's very sweet.

This, IMHO is a ballsy move. I had a hard time making a simple move to another state. I can't imagine how difficult it must have been for you to decide to move to another country. Best of luck to you and your family.

There was nothing tough about the US Immigration paperwork under our circumstances. But the orchestration of the Danish residence/work visa, and all the revolvers import/export paperwork with the Danish govt and the US State Dept is the tough part. Very time sensitive. I ll be amazed if it all falls into place. As of now though, we are doing good and are right on track. Did I mention that the offer from Denmark is only good for six months?

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USAF AMMO

If it were me, if the firearms was the holdup and my 6 month window was closing, I would leave them behind.

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Common sense isn't so common.

Sounds like a great life experience!
If you get a chance to purchase over there, you may want to look out for the Danish made Agner 22 lr target pistol. They were very nice, on par with Hammerli, Sako Triace, etc. Also, the old Danish service pistol, the M49, is their designation for the Sig P210. Absolutely top quality!
Don't be surprised to see a higher level of marksmanship than you'd typically see in the US. With the difficulty of acquiring lawful gun ownership, the people who make the effort tend to take the sport very seriously. UIT/ISU style shooting, such as free pistol, is much more common in the EU.
Referring to your original post, your daughter is likely to benefit from an education standpoint. As a college prof, I have seen an alarming decline in academic standards here. Not only is functional illiteracy becoming more prevalent, students are less capable of critical thinking, conducting research, formulating an abstract, etc.

Best Regards,
Jim

Jim, thank you for the encouraging comments. I really do appreciate it.

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USAF AMMO

I did NOT know you could buy hand guns in Denmark. Look's like you will be doing just fine once you get all set up over there. Look forward to hearing of your adventures from abroad.

Thank you,
Henry

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You are taking your guns to Denmark. I have a rifle that was an Army issued rifle in Denmark. Small world.

It was a Garand that the US loaned to Denmark after the war. The Danes were nice enough to put a very nice VAR barrel on it before it was returned to the US Army.

Good luck and please keep us posted. Especially, we need a range report when you get settled and check out the facilities.

Watch out for the German tourists. They come in large, armed groups and stay for a few years.

This is me shooting a Danish guy named Lars' model 28-2 at the range in Copenhagen, Denmark.

I more than likely will spending most of my free time here...

Here is the Highway Patrolman I shot, the grips are ones from Thailand. Notice the proof marks.

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USAF AMMO

OK, everyone is wishing you good luck so I will take the opposite approach. As a 16th generation American, PLEASE, PLEASE don't go.

GOD BLESS AMERICA, LAND THAT I LOVE.....

Thought that I would give it a shot, no pun intended.

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James Redfield
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The only gun stores I have ever seen are the ones we have here at home, so I am pleased you will be able to still feel like an American. And I'm sure we all want to see what it's like being around Danes with firearms. Sure they must love it also.
When I was stationed in Germany we all carried 45's, and many locals could no belive we also did so back home. They will welcome your knowledge about guns, so enjoy it to the fullest.

Thank you,

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That 4" fixed sight Model 19 gave me the vapors. My luck, I'd buy it, get attached and wind up not being able to "import" it back to the US because of some dumb .gov regulation. Be happy, the journey is the destination. Come back soon as you can. Joe

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Henry

GunarSailors;

I don't know you, even in the sense of an Internet presence. Sorry for that, but I post very infrequently despite my almost daily visits... Always felt there is more to be learned with open eyes and closed mouth.

For some visceral reason, this journey of yours saddens me. I find no fault nor blame in your decision to move, as I too feel it may be in the best interest of your family. I have also noted the changes in our nation, and with my son (only twelve years of age now), there are many acute concerns regarding the path of our future. For fear of becoming too political, I'll leave it at that.

Overall, I expect this adventure will be one to bring deep and everlasting benefit to you and your family. It is certain that you will endure many unexpected inconveniences, and perhaps a few hardships. With such a monumental change, this is to be expected. Please try to cherish the benefits, as you learn from the pitfalls.

Given your circumstances and conditions, I feel you are in the midst of a great and good thing that will better your relationship with your wife, greatly enrich your daughter, and deeply gratify yourself.

As one American to another, I assure you that your return will always be welcomed, should you ever choose.

May the good Lord protect and comfort you and your family, however this next chapter progresses.

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Virtute et armis

I thought moving to Alaska in early 70's was an adventure, after four years moved back to lower 48. Think I will just hang around here and try to improve things thru the ballot box. Being an old fart, I say when we get all the old farts out of congress things will improve.
Eddie

Pardon me if I've overlooked this in old posts, but how is ammo priced over there? Is it reasonable? Are specific types (like hollow points) legal at the range? Are you able to buy supplies and reload your own?

I ll need one of the members from Denmark to answer those questions. I think you are allowed to reload, but I think you have to take a class first in order to be allowed to do it. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

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USAF AMMO

I so envy you your upcoming sojourn. My adventuring days are over but the thought of you embarking on this wonderful new life in a land whose history is measured in millennia makes me want to follow your progress.

God bless all of you and keep us posted.

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Music/Sports/Beer fan

Glad things are working out for you. One of my regrets (of many) is never developing any foreign language skills. It would open up more options for places to live.

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Common sense isn't so common.

New rules came in April 2013 , 6,5" barrels are now legal in Denmark

is there a maximum number of handguns, rifles & shotguns you are allowed to own in Denmark? Are semi autos (of all 3)allowed to be owned & hunted with?

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be safe,enjoylife,journey well

I`m not sure about Denmark, but here in Norway the rules are..Recreational shooter, can own 4 handgun`s ....sportsman shooter can have 8, and competitionshooters can have 8 + 8 ....this is for the most common classes in sports shooting, if you add CAS, PPC and practical shooting you may end up with 30+ guns....but you have to apply to the local police every time you want a new gun...AND you have to document that you really need it and you have to be very activ to get that amount of guns, i have8 handguns and 4 long guns for hunting guns you can have 6....semi auto is ok but there are lot`s of guns that are banned because of the "millitary look"