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Tell the American Public or we will
It's said that Putin told Obamma to tell the American public the truth about UFO's or Russia will tell us.
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And we can believe Putin about UFO's?
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As you can see from my "data", I live in New Mexico.
You can take MY word: they haven't come back.
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"The "V" formation of 6 objects slowly crossing the North Pole is just some "Friendly Aliens", coming to shop at Macy's White sale!"
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IF there were UFO's watching us humans they would either laughing histerically or be so discusted they just would move on to another galaxy or whatever. The conversation would be something like - "did you see that! What a collection of idiots - well, I'm glad we left that planet - they're just going to blow themselves up anyway . good riddance!"
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Not to worry. Back when they visited, the found humans tasted like chicken. They don't like chicken, so they are gone....
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Not to worry. Back when they visited, the found humans tasted like chicken. They don't like chicken, so they are gone....
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Anyone remember this episode of the Twilight Zone?
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I can hear it now as they leave Earth's orbit - "You fly this thing!"
"I can't - HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA - I'm laughing to hard"
"You're going to break an antenna laughing that hard"
I can't help it - I've never seen anything that stupid before - hope you have the recording so we can prove it when we get back home cause nobody will believe it.
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As you can see from my "data", I live in New Mexico.
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I was just in "New" Mexico. I saw some strange things there. Some of those life forms were not from here. If they were they have been gone awhile and came back.
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Said by who?
Putin established the Eastern Orthodox Church as the semi state religion in Russia. They have a conservative bent. Socially, the revelation of the existence of aliens will cause more problems for him than the decadent West.
The more so, since the United States is the only country to have... access ... to certain things.
Only certain Presidents have been aware of certain things. As then CIA Director George Bush told then President Carter about UFOs, that subject is need to know and mere curiousity by the sitting President does not constitute need to know. Yes, he really told Carter that.
Most people look for the answers in the wrong places. All the good stuff is not with the USAF or NASA, but with the State Department and the Department of the Interior.
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They were here but they left and if they have intelligence of ANY kind...they ain't coming back either!
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I was just in "New" Mexico. I saw some strange things there. Some of those life forms were not from here. If they were they have been gone awhile and came back.
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Anyone remember this episode of the Twilight Zone?
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Oh yes it was a good one
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This is a story that has been about to break - any week now - for the last 30 years or so. I had a neighbor who was on the inside of a lot of the disclosure efforts; there was big money in it for him. I guess his payday never materialized, because he lost his house last year.
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Watch MUFON. if you follow this stuff more and more info is being reviled.
I just follow some of it. I know there's more than were being told. I just keep an open mind.
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It is about time the world governments came clean about aliens. Clearly they prefer the USA as we have more aliens than the rest of the world all toll. So if we do have aliens from off planet this is certainly where they would try and hide, as we have so many aliens they would just blend in.
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A good reason.....
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Said by who?
Putin established the Eastern Orthodox Church as the semi state religion in Russia. They have a conservative bent. Socially, the revelation of the existence of aliens will cause more problems for him than the decadent West.
The more so, since the United States is the only country to have... access ... to certain things.
Only certain Presidents have been aware of certain things. As then CIA Director George Bush told then President Carter about UFOs, that subject is need to know and mere curiousity by the sitting President does not constitute need to know. Yes, he really told Carter that.
Most people look for the answers in the wrong places. All the good stuff is not with the USAF or NASA, but with the State Department and the Department of the Interior.
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A good reason at that time would have been that the CIA was using the UFO thing to divert people from what was really going on in experimental aircraft.
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It is about time the world governments came clean about aliens. Clearly they prefer the USA as we have more aliens than the rest of the world all toll. So if we do have aliens from off planet this is certainly where they would try and hide, as we have so many aliens they would just blend in.
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the question is then how many aliases and social security numbers do they have?
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A good reason.....
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Said by who?
Putin established the Eastern Orthodox Church as the semi state religion in Russia. They have a conservative bent. Socially, the revelation of the existence of aliens will cause more problems for him than the decadent West.
The more so, since the United States is the only country to have... access ... to certain things.
Only certain Presidents have been aware of certain things. As then CIA Director George Bush told then President Carter about UFOs, that subject is need to know and mere curiousity by the sitting President does not constitute need to know. Yes, he really told Carter that.
Most people look for the answers in the wrong places. All the good stuff is not with the USAF or NASA, but with the State Department and the Department of the Interior.
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A good reason at that time would have been that the CIA was using the UFO thing to divert people from what was really going on in experimental aircraft.
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If my local Wal Mart is any indication, they have been among us for quite a while.
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Very true. It is the same here. One trip to our local Wal-Mart will make a believer of anyone.
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The disclosure story was first hinted at as early as Project Sign. Some say Admiral Forrestal was in favor of it, and that this cost him his life. Circa the mid 1970s and Close Encounters of the Third Kind and then later ET it was again said to be just around the corner. One story is that it did not happy because the little gray guys turned out not to be so friendly after all and were taking thousands more humans for anal probings and what not then had been agreed to in the secret agreement signed by Eisenhower where upon the aliens got some cattle, to run a few experiments on humans and were supposed to turn over military technology.
Only the aliens double crossed us, took more humans than agreed and were miserly with their boomsticks.
For those that keep track the United States is and has been far ahead in some things like stealth planes, night version, thermal scopes....Maybe just enough trinkets and beads to seem plausible. There is also the fact that I sit around night thumb typing this on a tablet that has more "smarts" than a room filling computer of not so long ago...and that when I was a little boy listening to the ball game on AM radio was still fine entertainment.
The latest story was that disclosure was considered recently because our economy needed a new boogeyman. We got ISIS instead, though it was a near run thing, because a rerun of the classic middle eastern terrorist was felt to be less destabilizing and better for business.
You can see Buzz Aldrin mentioning a monolith ala 2001 that exists on one of the moons of Mars if you do even a cursory search. It was on CSPAN. You can also see videos of former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer saying aliens are real and made a deal (alluded to as above) with Uncle Sam. Which begs the troubling question of whether he is telling the truth or if a high level official in Canada was just ... crazy.
The one man who probably knows the most, who is alive today and knew the principals involved is former President Bush the Elder. If one believes the stories...that he had time to be a part of MJ12 even with his duties quarterbacking the JFK assassination, etc. Former head of the CIA, Vice President, President....
(Curiously enough, you can believe former President Clinton when he denies any knowledge. He supposedly spilled the then secret of the fossilized bacteria on the Mars meteorite to one of his mistresses, and thus was not trusted with anything more.)
If you poke around a bit, you also find out that people doing things our government likes to deny get checks from the Department of the Interior and not the DoD. But again, people look for their men in black in the wrong places.
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IF there were UFO's watching us humans they would either laughing histerically or be so discusted they just would move on to another galaxy or whatever. The conversation would be something like - "did you see that! What a collection of idiots - well, I'm glad we left that planet - they're just going to blow themselves up anyway . good riddance!"
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Or more terrifying, much like the existential terror I feel whenever I realize that I am the sane one at times, is the possibility that humans are the clever ones and that the hairless monkeys really stand out amidst all the mud slugs, walking fungi, and giant methane breathing jelly fish.
One popular theory holds that modern humans are not native to Earth.
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Imagine ET's observing a human couple doing the Posturepedic Polka. They would laugh their pseudopods off.
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This is all well and good, but what about Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster?
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About 25 years ago, a tabloid ran an article that an ancient alien spacecraft had crash landed inside the Grand Canyon. The article had a fuzzy pic of the site, and claimed the DOI that administers the inner canyon through the National Park Service was secretly analyzing the wreck, gleaning the alien technology for gov. use.
I was an NPS ranger who worked in the inner canyon not too long after that article came out. We rangers laughed about it a lot. Then I married a gal who was a fellow Grand Canyon ranger. It didn't dawn on me until years later that I had married one of the aliens. Trust me when I tell you that she is not of this world. Ooops! Must go now. I feel her probing my thoughts again.
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Imagine ET's observing a human couple doing the Posturepedic Polka. They would laugh their pseudopods off.
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Read Kurt Vonnegut's "Slaughterhouse Five." I think it will answer your question. BTW: You can rent the 70s movie, but the book is better.
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As you can see from my "data", I live in New Mexico.
You can take MY word: they haven't come back.
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Seeing steel workers in thongs probably did us in.
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You can take Putin's statement two ways.
The U S has used UFO's as a cover for secrets, IMO, forever. Better to let them (us) believe this lie tan to create another fabrication to cover our experiments---also, the rest of the world will not be so inquisitive about what is going on if they are distracted by another hoax.
If UFO's are around, they could have easily done anything they wanted to to us by now.
Conspiracies !
The blind wanting to see it it is clearly open to see.
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Well considering there are no "close encounters of a posturepedic kind" at my house, I guess my chances of hearing alien laughter is very slim.
"Nothing to see here, let's move along"
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I would put more faith in what Putin says than, well 'you know who". I'll stop there. I learned after I got dinged for mentioning "you know who".. Twice!
As for UFO's, I don't need Putin or "you know who" to tell me they have been here. That's all I'm going to say about that, too!
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A reporter once asked a scientist "Do you think there is intelligent life in the universe?"
His reply was something to the effect of," I doubt it, we haven't found very much here on earth".
I sort of subscribe to the view of the late Lewis Grizzard, if they have been here, how come we"ve never found a UFO hubcap, and why haven't we seen one broke down on the side of the road with the hood up and 3 of then looking at the motor and one trying to catch a ride to town?
But, on a serious and pragmatic note, to reach earth from interstellar space would take many thousands of years of travel, any thing you hear or read about time warps or any other method of travel violates the laws of physics, and can't happen.
It is in the same vein as mining the moon or asteroids, how are you going to lift a million tons of mineng equipment to the moon? How is it going to operate in an atmosphere that has no oxygen for combustion, ( And, don't think batteries, remember, we still don't have an electric car with any significant duration yet) and, most important of all, how would we get the product back here to utilize it? Keep in mind that we've only brought back some 875 pounds of moon rocks so far, the astronauts and their re entry vehicles, and all at a cost of trillions of dollars.
It can't be done within any foreseeable time, and while I would like to see it take place,
It ain't gonna happen .
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I would put more faith in what Putin says than, well 'you know who". I'll stop there. I learned after I got dinged for mentioning "you know who".. Twice!
As for UFO's, I don't need Putin or "you know who" to tell me they have been here. That's all I'm going to say about that, too!
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They're here! I see some, right here on this thread, I tell ya!
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Unfortunately Foolish Observers
The topic of UFOs, like the yeti, Sasquatch, sea monsters and ghosts, tends to attract the trolls.
Regarding the UFOs, if you discount the "eyewitness" accounts of people missing half their teeth, and concentrate solely on the accounts involving the military, and airline pilots corroborated by ground radar and in some cases, physical evidence, these incidents are not easily explained away.
I think we're naive to believe we're alone in the universe. For whatever reason, governments don't want us to know what they may know until such time an an undeniable event occurs, like a UFO hovering 100 feet above Times Square.
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Do the aliens from another galaxy qualify for in-state tuition rates? This is going too far!
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03-30-2015, 09:59 AM
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So - The Russian government has already told the Russian people but we haven't heard anything about that?
Really?
How did they do that?
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03-30-2015, 10:07 AM
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IMO, Putin has enough on his mind, like trying to get the price of crude oil back up.
If there are aliens doing Earth drive bys, I imagine they look at us kinda like I look at those tabloids in the grocery checkout-amused and disgusted at the same time.
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03-30-2015, 10:15 AM
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If aliens didn't help Obama get into the Whitehouse who did?
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03-30-2015, 10:27 AM
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There is no reliable software source for the stoy about Putin, there is not even a quasi reliable source such as RT. Rather it is an unfounded rumor that has been floating around for about two years. The prior rumor was that Putin threatened to reveal 9/11 Secrets, presumably that it was an inside job or false flag operation. Earlier rumors of that sort dated back to the Cold War, when it was said that the Soviets would reveal the moon landings were a hoax, etc.
The Grand Canyon Crash story was in the Weekly World News of Batboy fame. Yes, they made things up.
But...the DOI does a lot more than park rangers. One of the reasons they were issuing the checks for some folks in Iraq and Afghanistan and not the DoD had to do avoiding the possibility of, or at least presenting bureaucratic obstacles to, any possible extradition related to war crimes.
The physics are there and even partially understood as to how to get from point A to point B. Wormholes are one way, another is that we have no idea how long lived other species are. If you live a thousand or three years, a 40 year voyage is relatively short. And that is if we skip over the infinite number of alternate dimensions theory.
Your classic Loch Ness monster is likely where a gate of sorts open and something from somewhere or somewhen else wanders in from time to time. An explanation that would deal with most cryptids.
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03-30-2015, 10:34 AM
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Watch MUFON. if you follow this stuff more and more info is being reviled.
I just follow some of it. I know there's more than were being told. I just keep an open mind.
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I am glad that this "knowledge" is being reviled, I just hope nothing more is revealed.
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03-30-2015, 10:43 AM
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If you see a flying saucer it IS NOT a UFO since you've identified it as a flying saucer.
I've seen UFOs several times.
There was a squadron of MV-22 Ospreys that flew very near our house for a few years (haven't seen one in a while though). For a while we locals would watch them fly by and ask *What the **** is that?*
Not long after they first flew by they were identified....
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IF there were UFO's watching us humans they would either laughing histerically or be so discusted they just would move on to another galaxy or whatever. The conversation would be something like - "did you see that! What a collection of idiots - well, I'm glad we left that planet - they're just going to blow themselves up anyway . good riddance!"
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And they would have reached that conclusion before the Kardashians took over Smutville, err, I mean Hollywood.
In related news, the aliens won't find such a large moon in any other galaxy...
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