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Old 04-09-2015, 11:51 PM
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Every hear of M-1 Thumb, I suffered case of M-81 Finger. I had
my trigger finger dislocated, Doc put it back in and put plastic
protector over it. Two days later I picked up a m-81 Rem in 300
Savage. My dad and brother were having a ball, shooting the old
Rem.I decided I could shoot with my "social" finger. So I laid my
trigger finger along side of the action to let me use 2nd finger to
pull trigger. I drew fine bead and touched her off, putting a lot
of concentration on trigger pull.When gun recoiled the bolt handle
came back and "drove" my trigger finger into my elbow. The pain
was harsh to say the least, also ruined shorts. When the swelling
went down, couple days later, my trigger finger was solidly where
it belonged. Any of you been attacked by your gun?
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Old 04-09-2015, 11:59 PM
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While not as painful as what you experienced i did learn the hard way about riding the slide forward on a Beretta 92, Hand over the ejection port area and my fingers slipped off the slide. That little pinch on the hand leaving a nice crescent shape hurt.
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In the US there is "M-1 thumb", but in Egypt they used to have "Hakim hand". This happens when the bolt locks back and the user fails to put on the safety. First cartridge into the mag releases the bolt hold open and the bolt slams forward like a bear trap.

I suspect the Rasheed carbine does the same, but I could be wrong.
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While not as painful as what you experienced i did learn the hard way about riding the slide forward on a Beretta 92, Hand over the ejection port area and my fingers slipped off the slide. That little pinch on the hand leaving a nice crescent shape hurt.
Did the same thing while showing mine to a friend on the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. Embarrassing to say the least and I must have nicked a small vein because it wouldn't stop bleeding. I also learned why those see through scope covers with the sharp edges are not that good of an idea on a 30-06.

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Old 04-10-2015, 02:00 AM
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I shoot my 3rd gen, a 686, a rifle and a shotgun no problem. I picked up a little Kel Tec and using my regular hold got the living **** knocked out of my left thumb. Even worse I kept forgetting and by the time the session was over I was bleeding profusely and my thumb knuckle looked like raw meat.

It's all right though. Being a macho man I just shook it off.

PS I think I remember getting a little too close to the 30-06 scope. Seems like those things bleed forever. I also learned that I have to limit the full .357s because of 'cumulative damage.'
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I thought that everyone who shoots a G.I. 1911 gets "Rail Road Tracks." (at least once) Ivan

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Old 04-10-2015, 10:35 AM
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The other day, my wife, who has just started shooting SA revolvers, got her left hand thumb between the hammer and frame of her Ruger Blackhawk .357. When she shot, the sharp edge of the hammer amputated the very tip of her thumb, blood everywhere. She claimed that I was more concerned about her getting blood on the blued gun than I was about her wound. She cowboyed up and shot the rest of the morning after getting bandaged.
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Old 04-10-2015, 12:10 PM
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When very young and working at a LGS in the 70's, had a customer, an older man, ask to see a new Browning A5 12 ga. auto. As always, I locked the bolt back, checked chamber and handed it to him.
While he is 'oooh and aahhing' over it, he hit the bolt release button, closing the bolt solidly on to his thumb, which was inserted into the action.
The extractor went through his thumbnail and was like trying to take a fish hook out, except there was alot more blood.
Don't know which was more uncomfortable, his embarrassment or the actual pain.

Nowadays, that would be the clerk's (my) fault. Back then, it was understood that it was not.
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A few years back, a co-worker was helping me with the disassembly of a machine. I was under the beast with an end wrench to hold the bolt & he was up topside with an air gun removing the 1/2 in. coarse thread nuts.

One nut stuck in the socket so he tried to remove it with his left index finger. He was fiddling with it when accidently he hit the trigger & screwed the nut up to the first knuckle.
The hide & meat bunched behind the nut & it left thread marks on the stub of white bone.

He went to the local emergency ward where they sent to the maintenance dept. for a wrench & proceeded to unscrew it.

He said even though they numbed it, still felt like the knuckle was coming apart before the threads loosened during removal. He took quite a razzing for not being man enough to reverse the air gun & remove it himself
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Thumbs up I don't like to give the AR-haters more ammo, but...

You've heard of M-1 Thumb? I've got a new variation: AR-15 Pinkie.
I've shot the M1 plenty but due to good instruction, never got bitten
when loading.

However, when practicing offhand (Standing) in NRA Highpower Rifle with a National Match AR15 service rifle, I was single-loading it as required. Then, I'd reach down through the gap between the "carry handle" and upper receiver and trip the bolt release (left side of rifle) with my right hand. That went well until I inadvertently let my pinkie finger drift into the open ejection port before launching the AR15's blunt guillotine... er, I mean, bolt, forward full force onto my pinkie.

After much imaginative verbiage, including some very unkind and un-deserved remarks directed to Eugene Stoner and all his ancestors, I wound up with blood blisters in a perfect reproduction of the multiple bolt locking lugs on my finger, plus some other unpleasantness.

I've shot many thousands of rounds with AR's after that, but have never even come CLOSE to the ejection port when releasing the bolt. Once was enough!

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Old 04-11-2015, 12:43 PM
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Glad to hear that you got all healed up.........
That is not too bad of a injury.

Just try not to ever get a M252, thumb !!
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When I was 12 or 13 years-old, my dad bought me a Ruger 22 revolver with long rifle and magnum cylinders. I had not shot a revolver before so he showed me how it worked. Off to the woods I went with the magnum cylinder. I took a rest on tree to steady my shot. The cylinder was resting on the trunk of the tree. When I pulled the trigger, the blast between the chamber and forcing cone blew chunks of bark into my right eye. Fortunately, I wasn't really injured and a good rinsing of the eye made everything right.
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My brother had a winchester model 100, you know the semi auto clip type rifle. tried to shoot it the way he was taught in the army. Bolt handle came back at warp speed and the next few minutes were spent with a lot of cussin. Me, I was laughing my you know what off as I said don't hold it that way. Frank
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I have a 1929 Browning A5 shotgun that as you know is built VERY heavily with all milled parts and no stampings. When that bolt slams shut it sounds like a hammer on an anvil without the nice ring. CLONK !!! And I'd rather get hit on the hand by a nice flat hammer rather than that bolt. I've finished assembling the gun with paper towels wrapped around my fingers and heel of my hand, which doesn't do much good because you bleed like a stuck pig for hours.

And semi pistols. I must be weak or something because I see some people manipulate the slide on a semi like it was nothing. On one video a guy said that he just held the ejection port open with his finger. He must have an aftermarket spring because when I tried that...... Let me just say that it's hard to open a slide while your finder is being cut off in the chamber.

If I want to hold it open, I put a block in my mouth, use both hands to hold open the slide and put the block in by mouth, hoping I don't get my lips or my nose caught in it.
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Oh let's see... Just the usual fare. 1911 hammer bite on the web of my right hand. And was putting rounds in my Mosin one day when it was about 20 degrees F out (cold) and the little piece that flips the cartridge out (the ejector) I ran right into my thumb. Split my thumbnail in half and drove it about 1/3 of the way up, and it bled like crazy in spite of the cold. Hurt like hell later.

Had a buddy at the range have a scope bite him above the eye with a 270 Win Mag. A nice crescent moon shape above his eyebrow.
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